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历史学家马丁·杜蒙:“在天主教会眼中,‘世俗化’体现了对法国宗教地位日益狭隘的看法”Martin Dumont, historian: 'In the eyes of the Catholic Church, "laïcité" embodies an ever more restrictive view of the place of religion in France'

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1980年6月1日,教宗若望·保禄二世在巴黎郊区布尔歇军用机场主持弥撒。

Pope John Paul II celebrating Mass at the Bourget military airfield, in the Paris suburbs, on June 1, 1980.

在旧制度时期,“笃信基督教的国王”之法国与圣座结成了紧密的联系。法国大革命及随后的事件在两大权力之间确立了一种完全不同的关系。法国与圣座关系专家马丁·杜蒙(Martin Dumont)对这一充满挑战的对话进行了反思,正是这种对话塑造了天主教与法兰西民族的历史。

Under the Ancien Régime, the France of the "very Christian kings" forged close ties with the Holy See. The French Revolution and the events that followed established a completely different kind of relationship between these two powers. Martin Dumont, an expert on relations between France and the Holy See, reflects on this challenging dialogue, which shaped the history of both Catholicism and the French nation.

您是否认为传统上定于496年的克洛维受洗标志着教皇国与日后法国之间关系的发端?

Do you believe that the baptism of Clovis, traditionally dated to 496, marks the birth of relations between the papacy and what would later become France?

认为法国凭借法兰克国王在5世纪的受洗而成为“教会的长女”这一观点是一种追溯性的建构,直到19世纪才开始流行。事实上,尽管旧制度下的 monarchy 后来庆祝了这一行为,但在克洛维时代,这其实是一个相当不起眼的事件。

The idea that France is the "eldest daughter of the Church," by virtue of the baptism of the king of the Franks in the 5 century, is a retrospective construction, one that only gained popularity in the 19 century. In reality, while the monarchy under the Ancien Régime would later celebrate this act, it was actually a fairly unremarkable event at the time of Clovis. You have 93.03% of this article left to read. The rest is forrs only.