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卡维尔表示,共和党在一项关键技能上比民主党更胜一筹,而这正是2028年民主党提名人所需的Carville says the GOP is better than Democrats at one key skill the 2028 Dem nominee will need

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资深民主党战略家詹姆斯·卡维尔周四表示,共和党比民主党更擅长塑造正面和负面的政治叙事,并警告本党,2028年总统候选人若想获胜,就必须具备这种能力。

Veteran Democratic strategist James Carville said Republicans are better at pushing positive and negative narratives than Democrats on Thursday and warned his party that its 2028 nominee will need that skill to win.

卡维尔经常谴责特朗普政府,并预测2026年将是民主党取得一系列重大胜利的一年。他曾多次暗示,总统唐纳德·特朗普在中期选举中大概率失去政治权力后,可能提前辞职,并在副总统J.D.万斯就任总统后获得万斯赦免。

Carville has frequently condemned the Trump administration, predicting that 2026 will be a year of landmark victories for the Democratic Party. He has suggested multiple times that President Donald Trump, after presumably losing political power in the midterms, may resign from office early and be pardoned by Vice President JD Vance after Vance becomes president.

然而,一位听众在他们的《政治战室》播客节目中联系了卡维尔和搭档阿尔·亨特,对比了共和党和民主党如何谈论彼此。

Carville has frequently condemned the Trump administration, predicting that 2026 will be a year of landmark victories for the Democratic Party. He has suggested multiple times that President Donald Trump, after presumably losing political power in the midterms, may resign from office early and be pardoned by Vice President JD Vance after Vance becomes president.

“想知道共和党为什么这么擅长炮制怪物,而民主党却做不到,”亨特总结道。“共和党会把所有民主党人都描绘成社会主义者,但涉及种族主义、反犹主义或腐败时,民主党似乎也无法用同样的方式给共和党扣帽子,尽管这三者都存在于共和党国会议员之中。”

One listener, however, contacted Carville and his co-host Al Hunt on their "Politics War Room" podcast, juxtaposing how Republicans and Democrats talk about each other. "He wants to know why the Republicans are so much better than the Democrats at creating boogeymen," Hunt summarized. "Republicans will paint all Democrats with a socialist brush, yet Democrats can’t seem to do the same thing when it comes to racism, antisemitism or corruption, despite the fact that all three are prevalent among Republican members of Congress."

中期选举倒计时100天,民主党正在胜出,因为他们确实有明确的信息“这个问题的大意是,共和党非常擅长把民主党人描绘成怪物、社会主义者、共产主义者之类,”亨特继续说。“但民主党在给共和党扣上种族主义、反犹主义等帽子方面做得不够好,罗布对此感到担忧。”

"He wants to know why the Republicans are so much better than the Democrats at creating boogeymen," Hunt summarized. "Republicans will paint all Democrats with a socialist brush, yet Democrats can’t seem to do the same thing when it comes to racism, antisemitism or corruption, despite the fact that all three are prevalent among Republican members of Congress."

卡维尔认为,共和党的表现糟糕至极,甚至可能都不需要民主党人来谴责他们。

100 DAYS UNTIL MIDTERMS AND DEMOCRATS ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A MESSAGE "The gist of the question is Republicans are very good at painting Democrats as boogeymen, socialists, communists, all that kind of stuff," Hunt continued. "But the Democrats don’t do as good a job, Rob worries, about painting Republicans with their racism, antisemitism, etc."

“首先,这确实是个很好的问题,”卡维尔回答道。“其次,现在的实际情况是:他们自己正在把自己描绘成负面形象(即故意塑造负面的公众形象),明白吗?他们之所以失势,并不是因为民主党的宣传策略,也不是因为民主党不断揭露他们的缺点;而是因为公众已经看穿了这些负面行为,而他们自己并不需要这样的形象。目前,民主党并没有必要进行任何干预。”卡维尔表示,民主党候选人如果想在2028年获胜,就必须掌握这种“塑造负面形象”的技巧。

Carville argued that the Republicans are doing so badly they may not even need the Democrats to condemn them. "First of all, it is a good question," Carville replied. "Secondly, what’s happened now is they’re painting themselves that way, OK? They’re going down not because of Democratic messaging, not because of a relentless offense by the Democrats that, you know, points out their foibles. They’re going down because the public sees it, and they don’t need that. A Democratic intervention right now is not called for." Carville said that the Democratic nominee will need to master this skill to win in 2028.

“听众提出的问题的核心观点完全正确。至于原因嘛……我认为,主要是因为我们民主党更像是一个联合体(即由多个不同派系组成的政党);我们不仅无法持续地传播关于对方的负面信息,也无法持续地传播关于我们自己的正面信息,”他说。“希望并祈祷在2028年,我们能有一位真正具备这种能力的候选人。”

"The gist of the question from our listener is totally correct. And for whatever reasons, Ben [sic], I think it’s because we’re more of a coalition. Not only do we not have a consistent negative story to tell about the other party, we don’t have a consistent positive story to tell about ourselves," he said. "Hope and pray that in 2028 we have a really skilled candidate that’s able to do that."

“但这确实是美国政治的现实,”他补充道:“我们在制造负面舆论方面不如共和党,在传递正面信息方面也不如他们。”

"The gist of the question from our listener is totally correct. And for whatever reasons, Ben [sic], I think it’s because we’re more of a coalition. Not only do we not have a consistent negative story to tell about the other party, we don’t have a consistent positive story to tell about ourselves," he said. "Hope and pray that in 2028 we have a really skilled candidate that’s able to do that."

玛丽·马斯伦德(Mary Marslender)曾是威斯康星州共和党参议员罗恩·约翰逊(Ron Johnson)的高级顾问,也是特朗普政府时期的官员,现任共和党顾问。她指出,在利用负面言论攻击对方方面,两党之间存在明显差距。

"But that is a fact of American politics," he added. "We’re not as good as they are at the negative, and we’re not as good as they are at a positive." SOCIALISTS ARE HELPING GOP CAMPAIGNS HEADING INTO NOVEMBER Mary Marslender, a former senior advisor to Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and a former Trump appointee who is now a Republican consultant, said there is a disparity in how well each side uses that rhetoric against the other.

“根本不沾边,而且差距也不是卡维尔所说的那样。”她告诉福克斯新闻数字网站,“共和党人将民主党人称为社会主义者时,这并不只是空洞的政治说辞,而是有许多民主党人的自我描述作为依据。最新民调显示,59%的民主党人认同自己是美国民主社会主义者组织(DSA)的支持者。“该组织公开主张扩大法院规模、对金融机构进行大刀阔斧的改革、废除资本主义、开放边境、取缔监狱和参议院,以及扩大行政权力等政策。民主党已经接受社会主义,而且似乎已无回头路。”马尔斯伦德继续说道。

"It isn’t even close, and it isn’t the disparity Carville thinks it is," she told Fox News Digital. "When Republicans label Democrats as socialists, it’s not just empty rhetoric; it’s grounded in how many Democrats describe themselves. Recent polling found that 59 percent of Democrats identify as supporters of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)." "The DSA has openly advocated for policies such as court-packing, sweeping changes to financial institutions, the abolition of capitalism, open borders, eliminating prisons and the Senate, and expanding administrative power. The Democratic Party has embraced socialism, and there seems to be no turning back," Marslender continued.

不过,她并不同意卡维尔的说法,即共和党无需民主党帮助,就已经毁掉了自己的声誉。

"It isn’t even close, and it isn’t the disparity Carville thinks it is," she told Fox News Digital. "When Republicans label Democrats as socialists, it’s not just empty rhetoric; it’s grounded in how many Democrats describe themselves. Recent polling found that 59 percent of Democrats identify as supporters of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)." "The DSA has openly advocated for policies such as court-packing, sweeping changes to financial institutions, the abolition of capitalism, open borders, eliminating prisons and the Senate, and expanding administrative power. The Democratic Party has embraced socialism, and there seems to be no turning back," Marslender continued.

“卡维尔的说法更多是一种政治上的宣传手段,而非事实本身,”马斯伦德说道。“如果共和党人真的毁掉了自己的信誉,民主党人根本不需要卡维尔的建议来决定‘在这次选举中保持中立’。事实上,卡维尔恰恰暴露了民主党的真正问题:他们既缺乏有说服力的政治主张,也没有能够有效传达这些主张的人选;他们现在只能寄希望于2028年出现一位‘真正有能力的人选’。”

However, she disagreed with Carville's comment that Republicans have already destroyed their own reputation without Democratic help. "Carville’s claim is more political spin than reality," Marslender said. "If Republicans had truly destroyed their own credibility, Democrats would not need Carville’s advice to ‘sit this one out.’ In fact, Carville reveals the Democratic Party’s real problem: they lack both a compelling message and a strong messenger, and are now hoping for a ‘really skilled candidate in 2028.’"

她继续说道:“一个亲眼看到特朗普政府在边境安全、能源独立以及保护美国工人权益方面取得显著成就的政党,根本无法声称共和党人已经自我毁灭了。如果共和党人真的像卡维尔所说的那样具有自我破坏性,民主党人早就应该利用共和党的这些‘失败’来为自己谋利了。卡维尔的论点恰恰表明,民主党人仍然清楚地意识到自己在立场和策略上的弱点。”

"A party that has watched the Trump administration deliver on border security, energy independence, and prioritizing American workers cannot credibly claim that Republicans have already undermined themselves," she continued. "If Republicans were as self-destructive as Carville claims, Democrats wouldn’t be waiting for a future savior; they would already be capitalizing on Republicans’ so-called failures. Carville’s argument underscores that Democrats still recognize weaknesses in their own positioning and strategy."

点击此处查看更多关于媒体与文化的报道:朱利安·爱泼斯坦(Julian Epstein)是一位律师、民主党顾问,也曾担任众议院司法委员会的法律顾问。他认为卡维尔的一些言论纯属“妄想”。

"A party that has watched the Trump administration deliver on border security, energy independence, and prioritizing American workers cannot credibly claim that Republicans have already undermined themselves," she continued. "If Republicans were as self-destructive as Carville claims, Democrats wouldn’t be waiting for a future savior; they would already be capitalizing on Republicans’ so-called failures. Carville’s argument underscores that Democrats still recognize weaknesses in their own positioning and strategy."

“其中很多观点其实反映了民主党的进步主义幻想,”他说。“在过去十年里,民主党人不断通过将特朗普称为‘法西斯主义者’、嘲笑他试图阻止中东地区的纳粹势力,以及将生活成本危机归咎于特朗普(而实际上这些危机主要是拜登执政期间高达20%的通货膨胀造成的),来利用公众的愤怒情绪。如今民主党人的所作所为无非就是互相攻击罢了。”

CLICK HERE FOR MORE COVERAGE OF MEDIA AND CULTURE Julian Epstein, an attorney, Democratic consultant and former Democratic chief counsel for the House Judiciary Committee, said some of Carville's comments were "delusion." "Some of this is progressive delusion," he said. "For the last decade, Democrats, in non-stop fashion, have sought to commodify rage by calling Trump a fascist, deriding Trump’s attempt to stop a Nazi movement in the Mideast, and blaming him for a cost-of-living crisis that Democrats mostly authored under Biden’s 20% cumulative inflation. Most of what Democrats do today is name-calling."

爱泼斯坦补充道:“民主党人无法传达一个积极、正面的政治信息,这根本不是沟通问题,而是一个哲学层面的问题。这让我们这些中间派人士感到非常失望;因为如今左翼的纲领基本上就是基于身份认同的抱怨情绪以及通过增税和政府开支来实现社会再分配的政策,而这种政策最多只能吸引25%的选民——这个比例与目前自认为是民主党人的选民数量差不多。”

"Democrats failure to tell a ‘positive story’ is not a communications problem, it’s a philosophy problem," Epstein added. "It dismays many of us centrists, but the left’s program today is almost entirely identity grievance and tax-and-spend redistributionist big government, which appeals to, at most, 25% of voters — about the same low number of voters that actually identify as Democrats today."

“民主党人已经忘记了如何真正去建设一个强大的国家,”他继续说道。

"Democrats failure to tell a ‘positive story’ is not a communications problem, it’s a philosophy problem," Epstein added. "It dismays many of us centrists, but the left’s program today is almost entirely identity grievance and tax-and-spend redistributionist big government, which appeals to, at most, 25% of voters — about the same low number of voters that actually identify as Democrats today."

“他们忘记了:美国的历程是一部关于创新、发明与发现的传奇,而不是关于怨恨或庞大政府官僚体系的传奇。”

"Democrats have forgotten how to build," he continued. "They have forgotten that the story of America is one of innovation, invention and discovery, not resentment and big government bureaucracies."

“与此同时,共和党确实正在浪费自己2024年大选中获得的授权,”爱泼斯坦补充道。“他们因制定糟糕的关税政策而自乱阵脚;未能以前瞻性的视角说明‘建设新的住房设施’以及‘增加医疗保险市场的竞争’能够有效解决住房 affordability(住房可负担性)问题;也未能向民众解释:我们实际上是在中东地区与类似三K党(KKK)的极端意识形态作斗争。与民主党存在的‘哲学理念问题’不同,共和党面临的是一个严重的‘沟通问题’。”

"At the same time, it is also true that the GOP is squandering its 2024 mandate," Epstein added. "Its tripping over itself with badly designed tariffs, has failed to show in a forward-looking manner that building new housing and increasing competition in health insurance can cure a lot of the affordability problem, and has failed to explain that we are fighting a KKK-like ideology in the Mideast. Unlike the Democrats’ philosophy problem, the GOP has a yawning communications’ problem."