公众对于数据中心(如西富茨克雷的这一座)的规模及其与居民住宅的距离日益感到担忧。
There is growing public concern about the size and proximity of datacentres, like this one in West Footscray, to people’s homes.
摄影:Ellen Smith/《卫报》 在总督府的私人餐厅里,杰辛塔·艾伦(Jacinta Allan)正专注地做着笔记,侍者们端上了由当地食材烹制的三道菜肴,并配以维多利亚州的葡萄酒。
Photograph: Ellen Smith/The Guardian In the private dining room of Government House, Jacinta Allan was assiduously taking notes as waiters served a three-course meal made with local ingredients and accompanied by Victorian wines.
三月份参加这场会议并围坐在桌旁的,是由总督办公室亲自挑选的人工智能公司和数据中心负责人,他们共同探讨了该行业的未来。
Sitting around the table at the meeting in March were leaders of artificial intelligence companies and datacentres, hand picked by the governor’s office for a discussion about the future of the industry.
数据中心行业协会的代表谈到了其成员所带来的投资机遇。学术研究人员和人工智能高管则讨论了维多利亚州如何利用这一蓬勃发展的行业。
The peak body for datacentres spoke about the investment opportunities presented by its members. Academic researchers and AI executives spoke about Victoria capitalising on the booming industry.
据消息人士称,在讨论结束时,时任州长将问题转交给了负责经济增长与就业的部长丹尼·皮尔逊(Danny Pearson)。据在场人士透露,他传达的信息很简单:我们能为您提供什么帮助?
As discussion wrapped up, sources say, the former premier deferred questions to her minister for economic growth and jobs, Danny Pearson. His message, according to those in the room, was simple: how can we help you? The conversation continued as the group, including a department secretary and senior government advisers, moved to the historic billiard room for coffee.
当包括部门秘书和政府高级顾问在内的小组移步至历史悠久的台球室享用咖啡时,谈话仍在继续。
“We were very encouraged and we hoped it would be followed up with a formal working group and more engagements, but there’s been nothing since,” says one source at the dinner, who has requested anonymity so they could speak freely.
“我们当时深受鼓舞,并希望后续能成立一个正式的工作组并开展更多接触,但此后便再无下文,”一位参加晚宴的消息人士表示。该人士要求匿名,以便能够畅所欲言。
“We were very encouraged and we hoped it would be followed up with a formal working group and more engagements, but there’s been nothing since,” says one source at the dinner, who has requested anonymity so they could speak freely. This formal dinner wasn’t the first time Victorian ministers had supped with AI leaders and datacentre executives.
这场正式晚宴并非维多利亚州部长们首次与人工智能领袖及数据中心高管共进晚餐。
Sign up for the Breaking News Australia In late January, Pearson dined with the world’s biggest datacentre companies and the trillion-dollar chip maker Nvidia in the corporate suites of Rod Laver arena. The small group then watched Novak Djokovic win his Australian Open quarter-final match against the Italian, Lorenzo Musetti.
订阅澳大利亚突发新闻:一月下旬,皮尔逊与全球最大的数据中心公司以及市值万亿美元的芯片制造商英伟达(Nvidia)的高管们,在罗德·拉沃尔竞技场的企业包厢内共进晚餐。随后,这群人一同观看了诺瓦克·德约科维奇(Novak Djokovic)在澳大利亚网球公开赛四分之一决赛中战胜意大利选手洛伦佐·穆塞蒂(Lorenzo Musetti)的比赛。
Sign up for the Breaking News Australia In late January, Pearson dined with the world’s biggest datacentre companies and the trillion-dollar chip maker Nvidia in the corporate suites of Rod Laver arena. The small group then watched Novak Djokovic win his Australian Open quarter-final match against the Italian, Lorenzo Musetti. Ministerial diaries show Pearson and other ministers held more than a dozen meetings with AI and datacentre executives in the first three months of this year, reflecting the government’s determination to make Victoria the “datacentre capital of Australia”.
部长日记显示,皮尔逊和其他部长在今年前三个月与人工智能和数据中心高管举行了十多次会议,反映出政府决心将维多利亚州打造成为“澳大利亚数据中心之都”。
“We’re going to be ruthless about it,” the then-premier told an economic forum in November, flagging up to $25bn in capital expenditure in the state. But in the middle of the year, something changed within Labor.
“我们将毫不留情地推进此事,”时任州长在11月的一个经济论坛上表示,预示着该州将迎来高达250亿澳元的资本支出。但年中时,工党内部发生了变化。
Community concern about datacentres in Victoria and elsewhere was becoming impossible to ignore change of premier in July forced in part by dire opinion polls, led to a rethink of several government policies Cabinet ministers emboldened by community opposition felt at liberty to directly rebuke some of the industry’s leading figures Constituents upset about datacentres started receiving replies from ministers, rather than from public servants.
维多利亚州及其他地区公众对数据中心的担忧已无法被忽视。7月份因民调惨淡而被迫更换州长,导致多项政府政策被重新审视。受社区反对声浪鼓舞的内阁部长们感到有底气直接斥责行业领军人物。对数据中心不满的选民开始收到部长们的回复,而非公务员的回复。
And a plan for stricter rules for datacentres – which had been delayed for several months – was finally approved by cabinet and announced earlier this week Some datacentre executives and government insiders admit they were surprised by the strength of community opposition and are recalibrating ahead of an election.
一项针对数据中心的更严格监管计划——此前已推迟数月——最终获内阁批准并于本周早些时候公布。一些数据中心高管和政府内部人士承认,他们对社区反对的强烈程度感到惊讶,正在为大选前重新调整策略。“政府立场已发生演变”在周二发布可持续数据中心行动计划前几天,工党对社区担忧的敏感度显而易见。
‘The government’s view has evolved’ Labor’s sensitivity to community concerns about datacentres was made clear in the days before its sustainable datacentre action plan was announced on Tuesday.
就业部长梅丽莎·霍恩指责澳交所上市数据中心巨头NextDC的首席执行官克雷格·斯克罗吉,利用人工智能游说她支持墨尔本一座备受争议的AI工厂。
The jobs minister, Melissa Horne, accused the chief executive of ASX-listed datacentre giant NextDC, Craig Scroggie, of using artificial intelligence to lobby for her support of a controversial AI factory in Melbourne. “I do not believe that it would be appropriate for me to lend my support to the application and nor do I wish to,” wrote Horne, a factional ally of the now premier Ben Carroll.
霍恩写道:“我认为我支持该申请是不合适的,我也不愿如此。”她是现任州长本·卡罗尔的派系盟友。
“I do not believe that it would be appropriate for me to lend my support to the application and nor do I wish to,” wrote Horne, a factional ally of the now premier Ben Carroll.
工党富茨克雷选区议员凯蒂·霍尔在社交媒体上公开了霍恩致斯克罗吉那封措辞异常简短的信件。霍尔一直在反对NextDC数据中心在其选区内的扩建计划。
Horne’s unusually terse letter to Scroggie was published on social media by the Labor MP for Footscray, Katie Hall, who had been campaigning against the expansion of NextDC’s datacentre in her electorate.
该数据中心被称为M3,位于工业区,但一些住宅距离其边界仅15米。该公司申请快速审批建设超过10公顷的设施,引发了大量媒体报道。霍尔面临绿党的施压,后者正觊觎这个势均力敌的选区。上届选举中,绿党从工党手中夺得了13.9%的选票波动,并有信心再获得4.3%的选票以锁定胜局。
The datacentre, known as M3, is in an industrial area but some residential homes are within 15 metres of its boundary. The company’s application for fast-tracked approval to build over 10 hectares has generated heavy media coverage Hall is under pressure from the Greens, who are eying the marginal seat. The minor party recorded a 13.9% swing from Labor at the last election and is confident it can secure the remaining 4.3% of votes to clinch victory.
霍尔与霍恩同属工党议员,正敦促政府放缓对数据中心的接纳步伐。她表示,已确保前来选区视察的同事亲眼目睹M3距离民宅有多近。
Hall, along with Horne, is among the Labor MPs urging the government to slow its embrace of datacentres. She says she’s made sure colleagues visiting her electorate see how close M3 is to homes.
霍尔说:“政府的立场之所以发生演变,是因为工党核心小组成员代表其社区进行了倡导。”
“The government’s view has evolved because of advocacy from members of the Labor caucus on behalf of their communities,” Hall says.
“了解并理解自己社区、经常与选民交谈的工党议员一直在履行职责,正如他们所应做的那样,在核心小组会议上提出这些问题并倡导变革。”“合理的担忧”肖恩·布朗表示,他见证了政府对数据中心态度在过去几个月里的转变。他领导的“托特纳姆市民”组织是M3扩建计划的直言不讳的反对者。
“Labor MPs who know and understand their communities and talk to their constituents all the time have been doing their job, as they should, raising these issues in caucus and advocating for change.” ‘Legitimate concerns’ Sean Brown says he’s watched the government’s attitude to datacentres change over the past few months. His group, Citizens of Tottenham, is a vocal opponent of the M3 expansion.
布朗说,今年3月他在霍尔的办公室首次讨论此事时,霍尔主要听取意见并做笔记。但据他说,在当月随后的一次会议上,这位当地议员表达反对的态度更加坚决。当时规划部长索尼娅·基尔肯尼的一名顾问也在场。
Brown says when he first discussed the issue with Hall in her office in March, she mostly listened and took notes. But at a subsequent meeting that month, he says his local MP was more forthright in her opposition. She was also accompanied by an adviser to the planning minister, Sonya Kilkenny.
布朗说,今年早些时候他开始就数据中心问题给部长们写信时,回复他的都是公务员,礼貌地感谢他提出担忧。作为一名前公务员,他以为这意味着部长们“不想处理这件事”。
When Brown started writing to ministers about datacentres earlier this year, it was public servants who replied to him, politely thanking him for raising his concerns. A former public servant himself, he believed this meant ministers “didn’t want to deal with it”.
“感觉他们根本不在乎,”布朗说。“似乎他们只关心数据中心行业的投资。”但布朗表示,这种情况在7月左右发生了变化,部长办公室的工作人员开始回复。8月初,布朗收到了一封由增长与就业部长史蒂夫·迪莫普洛斯签署的两页信函。
“It felt like they didn’t care,” says Brown. “It seemed that all they cared about was investment from the datacentre industry.” But Brown says that changed around July, when ministerial staff started replying. In early August, Brown received a two-page letter signed by the minister for growth and jobs, Steve Dimopoulos.
迪莫普洛斯在给布朗写信不久后就被调往另一个部门。他在信中告诉布朗,数据中心是经济的重要组成部分,政府致力于确保它们继续在该州投资。但他也承认,投资的步伐引发了真正的担忧,需要加以解决。
Dimopoulos, who was moved to another ministry not long after writing to Brown, told him datacentres were an important part of the economy and the government was committed to ensuring they continued to invest in the state. But he acknowledged also the pace of investment had caused genuine concerns that needed to be dealt with.
迪莫普洛斯说:“我认识到,近期投资的规模和速度可能会给附近社区带来合理的担忧,特别是在工业活动靠近居民区的地方。”行业“危言耸听”维州政府表示,其关于数据中心的新规则是全国最强、最清晰的。新规在数据中心和住宅之间设立了150米的缓冲区,并强制要求“公平的社区咨询”。
“I recognise that the scale and pace of recent investment can raise legitimate concerns for nearby communities, particularly where industrial activity is located close to residential areas,” said Dimopoulos. Industry ‘catastrophising’ The Victorian government says its new rules on datacentres are the strongest and clearest in the country. They create a buffer zone of 150m between datacentres and homes and mandate “fair community consultation”.
一位政府发言人说:“工党正在走向新方向。在维州,我们制定规则。数据中心必须自行解决电力问题,保护住宅,并承担应有的成本。”但数据中心行业的最高机构毫不掩饰其失望。它警告说,新规则还强制要求数据中心使用可再生能源,这可能导致投资流向其他州。
“Labor is going in a new direction,” says a government spokesperson. “In Victoria, we set the rules. Datacentres must power themselves, protect homes and pay their way.” But the peak body for datacentres has made no secret of its disappointment. It warns the new rules, which also force datacentres to use renewable energy, could cause investment to flow to other states.
数据中心澳大利亚协会首席执行官贝琳达·德内特说:“其他州看到了机会,正排队争取。”
Other states have seen the opportunity, and they are lining up for it,” says Belinda Dennett, the chief executive of Data Centres Australia.
政府持不同意见,并指出许多数据中心公司发表声明欢迎法规带来的清晰度。
The government disagrees, pointing to statements from numerous datacentre companies welcoming clarity about the regulations.
人工智能部长安东尼·卡宾斯告诉澳广的拉夫·爱普斯坦,德内特在“危言耸听”。
The government disagrees, pointing to statements from numerous datacentre companies welcoming clarity about the regulations.
卡宾斯告诉澳广:“没有来自数据中心澳大利亚协会的证据表明有任何投资正在离开我们的州。”
The minister for artificial intelligence, Anthony Carbines, told the ABC’s Raf Epstein that Dennett was “catastrophising”. “There is no evidence from Data Centres Australia that any investment is leaving our state,” Carabines told the ABC.
丹尼特拒绝对这些言论作出回应。但资金外流州外的迹象可能很快就会出现。
“There is no evidence from Data Centres Australia that any investment is leaving our state,” Carabines told the ABC.
本月初,昆士兰州州长大卫·克里萨福利飞往美国,与人工智能巨头Anthropic达成了一项价值319亿澳元的协议,这可能将建成澳大利亚最大的数据中心。本周,他在一个能源论坛上表示,更多协议即将达成。
Dennett declined to respond to those comments. But evidence of a flow of money out of the state may soon appear. Earlier this month, Queensland premier, David Crisafulli, flew to the US to secure a $31.9bn deal with the AI giant Anthropic for what could be Australia’s largest datacentre. This week, he told an energy forum that more deals were coming.
“当我们是其他州决策的受益者时,我为什么要给其他州提供建议?”
“Why would I give advice to other states when we are the beneficiary of decisions they are making?”