奥斯汀，德克萨斯州 —— 三位著名的白宫记者探讨了哪些共和党人可能在2028年接替唐纳德·特朗普总统参选，并提出了一长串名单。
AUSTIN, Texas — Three prominent White House reporters discussed which Republicans could run to succeed President Donald Trump in 2028 — and floated a wide range of names.
《政治新闻网》白宫局长达莎·伯恩斯、NBC新闻首席白宫记者加勒特·哈克，以及《纽约时报》白宫记者玛吉·哈伯曼周五在得克萨斯论坛报节上进行了一场小组讨论，谈论报道特朗普总统任期的情况。
Politico White House bureau chief Dasha Burns, NBC News chief White House correspondent Garrett Haake, and the New York Times' White House correspondent Maggie Haberman sat down for a panel discussion about covering the Trump presidency Friday at the Texas Tribune Festival.
虽然讨论的大部分内容集中在特朗普的现任任期上，但主持人、《华盛顿邮报》的安娜·阿施布伦纳在对话结束时询问下届大选的“竞争”将如何形成。
While much of the discussion focused on Trump's current term in office, moderator Annah Aschbrenner of The Washington Post finished the conversation by asking how the "competition" will shape up in the next election.
拉姆·伊曼纽尔在酝酿2028年总统竞选之际宣称自己与其他民主党人的区别 “我认为共和党内有四条赛道，”哈克回答道。“我认为其中一条是特朗普的继任者，那种来自白宫内部、获得祝福的人……推测那是J·D·万斯。除非万斯出于某种原因决定不想要，或以某种方式被取消资格，否则可能是马可·鲁比奥。”
RAHM EMANUEL TOUTS WHAT SEPARATES HIM FROM OTHER DEMS AS HE MULLS 2028 PRESIDENTIAL BID "I think there are four lanes to the Republican Party," Haake responded. "I think one lane is the Trump successor, the sort of like, from the inside of the White House, who's the person who gets blessed... Presumably, that's JD Vance. Unless JD Vance decides, for whatever reason, [he] doesn't want it, or is somehow disqualified, then maybe it's Marco Rubio."
“然后我认为有一条‘我试图帮你，但你不听’的赛道，像是特德·克鲁兹，那种会在未来两年拼命为特朗普最亲密的盟友而战，但到时候会说，你看，没用，[特朗普的]支持率只有25%，这是我当时告诉他的事，伙计，他不听，”他继续说道。“然后我认为有一条明确的反特朗普赛道，那可能是克里斯·克里斯蒂这样的人……也许是[即将卸任的内布拉斯加州众议员]唐·培根或类似人物。”随后，哈克分享了他所谓的“第四张王牌”，即卫生与公众服务部部长小罗伯特·F·肯尼迪，引发现场以自由派为主的观众发出惊呼和抱怨声。
"Then I think there's the 'I tried to help you, but you didn't listen lane', which is like Ted Cruz, somebody who's going to spend the next two years making Trump's closest ally, fight real hard, but then when it comes around saying, you know, it didn't work, [Trump's] approval rate is 25%, here's what I told him to dude, he didn't listen," he continued. "Then I'd think there is this explicitly anti-Trump lane, which is somebody like if Chris Christie... maybe it's [outgoing Nebraska Congressman] Don Bacon or somebody like that." Haake then shared what he called his "fourth wild card," which was HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., sparking gasps and groans from the largely liberal audience.
伯恩斯插话补充道，前国家情报总监塔尔西·加巴德也属于哈克所说的第四类候选人。
Burns jumped in, adding former DNI Tulsi Gabbard to Haake's fourth lane of candidates.
消息人士证实：特朗普对捐赠者表示“我们需要选出JD”，权衡万斯或鲁比奥作为2028年人选哈克推测，如果到2028年MAGA联盟出现分裂，“让美国再次健康运动”（MAHA）团体——这一助推小肯尼迪2024年以独立候选人身份竞选总统、并最终倒向特朗普的运动——可能会支持这位前民主党人，他表示小肯尼迪比特朗普更“拥有”这一选民群体。
TRUMP TOLD DONORS 'WE NEED TO ELECT JD,' SOURCE CONFIRMS, AS HE WEIGHS VANCE OR RUBIO IN 2028 Haake theorized that if the MAGA coalition is fractured by 2028, the "MAHA group" — the Make America Healthy Again movement that helped fuel RFK Jr.'s independent run for president in 2024 and ultimately rallied behind Trump could rally behind the ex-Democrat, who he said "owns" that constituency more than Trump.
哈伯曼似乎赞同哈克的评估，并补充了一个“注脚”：如果万斯想要提名，“很可能就是他的”，但与伊朗的战争也可能影响他的机会。
Haberman seemed to agree with Haake's assessment, adding the "asterisk" that it's "likely JD Vance's nomination if he wants it" but that the war with Iran could also impact his chances.
虽然她没有直接将其列入共和党潜在候选人名单，但伯恩斯强调了小唐纳德·特朗普在共和党内的巨大影响力，告诉在场观众，如果没有他，万斯就不会成为副总统。点击此处获取最新媒体与文化新闻“他在MAGA人群中依然拥有极高人气，”伯恩斯说。“事实上，他与选民的关系与他父亲截然不同。”“他说的是保守派的语言，”哈伯曼插话道。
While she stopped short of adding his name to the list of GOP hopefuls, Burns stressed the major influence Donald Trump Jr. has within the Republican Party, telling the crowd that Vance would not have been vice president without him. CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST MEDIA AND CULTURE NEWS "He is still enormously popular among the MAGA crowd," Burns said. "He has a very different relationship, actually, than his dad does." "He speaks the language of conservatives more," Haberman chimed in.
《Politico Playbook》合著者回忆起小特朗普在竞选集会上为父亲介绍的场景，以及他如何赢得“热烈掌声”，以至于特朗普上台后都会评论儿子受欢迎的程度。伯恩斯说，小特朗普最终不再为父亲做开场介绍。
The Politico Playbook co-author then recalled Trump Jr. introducing his father at campaign rallies and how he'd receive "massive ovations" to the point that Trump would come out and remark on the enthusiasm for his son. Burns said Trump Jr. eventually stopped introducing his father as a result.
“存在这样一种情况：小唐纳德能为万斯带来大量联盟支持者，我认为这在很大程度上对他有利，”伯恩斯说。“我认为中期选举正在发生的事情，如果正如所有数据预测的那样是一场‘惨败’……我认为闸门将打开，真正改变2028年的格局。”伯恩斯补充说，除了小肯尼迪和加巴德，特朗普内阁中“大量的人”也可能加入角逐，并提到战争部长皮特·赫格塞斯也是潜在竞争者。
"So there's a world where Don Jr. really brings a ton of the coalition to JD Vance, and that will, I think, largely be positive for him," Burns said. "I think that what is happening with these midterms, if it is the bloodbath that all the numbers are saying will be . . . I think the floodgates open, and it really changes the 2028 dynamics." Burns added that a "ton of people" from Trump's cabinet could throw their hat in the ring in addition to RFK Jr. and Gabbard, also citing Secretary of War Pete Hegseth as a potential contender.