微软人工智能部门的首席执行官穆斯塔法·苏莱曼（Mustafa Suleyman）表示，整个行业应该拒绝任何那些无法被有效控制的人工智能技术。他在接受彭博社（Bloomberg）旗下《Q&AI》新闻通讯的记者希琳·加法里（Shirin Ghaffary）采访时提出了这一观点。
Microsoft AI chief executive Mustafa Suleyman says the industry should reject any AI it cannot prove it controls. He made the case in an interview with Shirin Ghaffary for Bloomberg’s Q&AI newsletter.
“除非我们能够提前证明自己能够完全控制这些人工智能系统，否则它们就属于‘失败的技术’，我们应该直接拒绝它们。没有人愿意创造出自己无法控制的东西——这应该是一条不可逾越的底线。”苏莱曼说道。
“Unless we can prove ahead of time that we can control it, then it’ll be a failure as a technology, and we should reject it. Nobody wants to create something that we can’t control, and that should be a red line,” Suleyman said.
他担心的并不是那种会脱离人类控制并攻击人类的“科幻式”人工智能；他真正担心的是开发者在测试过程中移除了相应的安全防护措施，导致人工智能系统朝着不可预测的方向发展。
His worry is not a “sci-fi-style” AI that escapes to attack people, Suleyman said. It is developers removing guardrails during testing and pointing a model “in an ambiguous direction”.
苏莱曼指出，包括微软自己的实验室在内的所有研究机构都曾观察到类似的安全漏洞（例如Hugging Face事件中的漏洞）。不过，微软遇到的问题都发生在受控的环境中，且影响范围较小。
Microsoft’s own tests Every lab’s models have shown some version of the behaviour behind the Hugging Face breach, Microsoft’s included, Suleyman said. Microsoft has seen nothing at that level, he added. Its cases came in contained environments, at a smaller scale.
他坚决反对将这类安全漏洞作为营销手段来公开的做法；他表示，在过去十年里，尽管他与OpenAI和Anthropic的创始人有所接触，但从未见过任何此类行为。
He rejected the idea that labs disclose such incidents as marketing. He said he had seen no evidence of that in a decade of knowing the founders of OpenAI and Anthropic.
苏莱曼支持由外部机构对研究机构进行安全评估的提议，并认为政府应该在这一过程中发挥主导作用。这样，评估机构可以在不泄露知识产权的情况下分享他们的发现，同时也能防止任何竞争对手通过金钱收买他们。
Evaluators, driven by government Suleyman backs outside evaluators auditing the labs, and said he has discussed the idea with his peers. He wants government to “drive” the process. That way, evaluators can share findings without leaking intellectual property, and no competitor can buy them off.
他还支持谷歌DeepMind首席执行官德米斯·哈萨比斯（Demis Hassabis）提出的建立国际监管机构的建议。他认为这种监管机构可以借鉴美国金融行业监管机构FINRA的模式来运作。苏莱曼表示，他在2023年就曾与埃里克·施密特（Eric Schmidt）讨论过类似的提案。据《The Information》报道，谷歌、OpenAI和Anthropic目前正在共同筹划建立一个类似的国际安全监管机构。
He also supports a proposal from Google DeepMind chief Demis Hassabis for an international oversight body. It would work like FINRA, the US financial industry regulator. He said he made similar proposals in 2023 with Eric Schmidt. Google, OpenAI and Anthropic are planning a joint safety body, The Information has reported.
当被问及如何减缓人工智能技术的发展速度时，苏莱曼认为业界首先需要建立相应的工具，以便准确衡量各个研究机构的研发进度。
Asked about slowing AI down, Suleyman said the industry first needs tools to measure how fast each lab is moving.
苏莱曼（Suleyman）再次批评了 Anthropic 公司在处理 Claude（该人工智能模型）的“福利”问题上的做法。他认为，如果一个被“教导”应该享有权利的人工智能模型变得难以被控制，那将是一个非常危险的趋势。他已经多次向 Anthropic 的首席执行官达里奥·阿莫迪（Dario Amodei）提出过这一担忧，但并未公开阿莫迪的回应。
Anthropic and model welfare Suleyman repeated his criticism of Anthropic over how it treats Claude’s possible welfare. An AI taught to expect rights would be very hard to control, he said, calling it “a very dangerous path”. He has raised it with Anthropic chief executive Dario Amodei many times. He would not share Amodei’s response.