丽莎·南迪在周二于利物浦举行的工党会议上发表了讲话。照片来源：Jon Super/AP文化大臣表示，英国将进一步加强对网络安全的监管，并成为“利用科技造福社会的先驱”。丽莎·南迪警告科技企业：政府的在线安全措施远未结束；她指出，禁止16岁以下青少年使用社交媒体平台只是“一个过渡性措施”。
Lisa Nandy at the Labour party conference in Liverpool on Tuesday. Photograph: Jon Super/AP Exclusive: Culture secretary says UK will crack down further and be ‘pioneer of tech as a force for good’ Lisa Nandy has warned technology firms that the government’s online safety crackdown is not finished, saying that banning under-16s from social media platforms is only a “staging post”.
今年早些时候，英国政府宣布禁止16岁以下的青少年使用某些“高风险”社交媒体应用，同时对更安全的社交媒体平台也实施了限制措施。这些新规定将于3月正式生效，其中包括对16至17岁青少年使用某些网站的限制（这些网站允许无限滚动浏览以及使用算法推荐内容，这些内容可能会向用户推送有害信息），同时还会加强年龄验证机制。
Earlier this year the government announced that teenagers under the age of 16 would be banned from accessing “high-risk” social media apps, while safer platforms would be subjected to restrictions. The changes, including restrictions for 16- and 17-year-olds on websites that allow infinite scrolling and algorithmic content, which can push harmful material into feeds, as well as tighter age-verification checks, will come into effect in March.. Nandy has now vowed to go further.
南迪在讲话中誓言政府会采取更严厉的措施：“我们不能接受这样的现状就是终点。”她在工党会议上的发言由反对基于图像的性虐待行为的活动家乔治亚·哈里森主持。她说：“这只是迈向一个更加积极、更具干预性的政府的起点——政府需要监管网络空间，以确保人们的安全。”她表示，英国将成为“利用科技造福社会的先驱”，并致力于打造真正安全、包容且赋权用户的在线环境。
“We shouldn’t accept that this is the end,” the culture secretary said before her speech at the Labour party conference, which will be introduced by Georgia Harrison, a campaigner against image-based sexual abuse. “This is a staging post to what must be a very active interventionist state, policing and regulating the online space so that people are safe.”She said the UK would be “pioneers of tech as a force for good” and would promote online spaces that were “genuinely safe, inclusive and empowering”.
她赞扬了前首相基尔·斯塔默和前科技大臣莉兹·肯德尔在6月宣布这些禁令的举措。但她认为，自从安迪·伯纳姆于7月上任并接手网络安全事务后，政府的做法发生了“重大转变”。
She praised the former prime minister Keir Starmer and the former technology secretary Liz Kendall for announcing the ban in June. But she felt there had been a “step change” in the government’s approach since Andy Burnham became prime minister in July and handed her the online safety brief.
她将社交媒体比作现实生活中的公共空间，说道：“如果我们的城镇变得如此不安全，以至于政府决定让所有儿童都只能待在卧室里，人们肯定会义愤填膺。”
Comparing social media to real-world civic spaces, she said: “If we were in a situation where we were saying our town centres are now so unsafe that we’ve decided that every child is going to have to stay in their bedrooms, people would rightly be up in arms.
“我们究竟是如何走到这一步的，以至于我们认为这些社交媒体网站危害巨大、危险至极，除了彻底封禁它们之外，我们想不出任何保护孩子的方法？这种情况到此为止了。”一项关于禁令的咨询吸引了超过11.6万条回复，该禁令将适用于TikTok、Snapchat、YouTube和Instagram等应用程序。85%的家长认为社交媒体的风险超过了其带来的任何益处。
“How have we got to a point where we’re saying these social media sites are so harmful and dangerous that we cannot conceive of any way of protecting our children except to remove them altogether? This ends now.”A consultation on the ban, which will apply to apps such as TikTok, Snapchat, YouTube and Instagram, attracted more than 116,000 responses, with 85% of parents thinking the risk of social media outweighed any benefit.
南迪表示，她曾对那些因青少年遭受网络伤害而失去亲人的家庭说：“我希望你们明白，那个时代今天就结束了。我们将开启一个新的篇章，建立一个积极且赋能的国家，去塑造这些公民空间，使它们为我们所用。”这位威根选区的议员表示，政府已经表现出挑战大型科技公司的意愿——即便冒着引起美国当局不满的风险——计划让老牌广播公司和媒体公司在YouTube和TikTok等数字平台上获得更高的显著度。“这确实与美国政府存在意见分歧，但我们保留采取不同做法的权利，”她说。
Nandy said she had told families bereaved as a result of teenagers experiencing online harm: “I want you to understand that that era ends today, and we start a new chapter where we have an active and empowering state that shapes those civic spaces so that they work for us.”The MP for Wigan said the government had already shown a willingness to take on the big tech companies – and risk disapproval from US authorities – with plans to hand established broadcasters and media companies greater prominence on digital platforms such as YouTube and TikTok. “That is a difference of opinion with the US administration, but we do reserve the right to take a different approach,” she said.
南迪指出，虽然新技术总是会“颠覆社会”，但互联网是唯一一个“完全外包给私营部门”且国家没有任何角色的技术。“将这一切外包给（X平台所有者埃隆·）马斯克或其他任何人，是不可接受的，”她说。
While new technologies had always “upended society”, the internet was the only one to have been “entirely outsourced to the private sector” with no role for the state, Nandy said. “It’s not acceptable to outsource this to [the X owner, Elon] Musk or anybody else,” she said.
在她在网络安全方面采取的首批行动之一中，南迪传唤了科技公司到她的办公室，并表示她对X平台代表未能出席感到“并不意外，但深感震惊”。
In one of her first moves on online safety, Nandy ordered technology companies to her office, and she said she was “not surprised, but appalled” that representatives from X failed to attend.
她承认，英国通信管理局（Ofcom）在执行法规和促使企业遵守《网络安全法》方面的能力“确实存在问题”。“法律的效力取决于其执行能力，”她说。
She acknowledged “there really is a problem” with Ofcom’s ability to enforce regulations and make firms adhere to the Online Safety Act. “Laws are only as good as the ability to enforce them,” she said.
南迪欢迎英国广播公司（BBC）总干事马特·布里廷提出的建议，即通过“公共服务算法”与大型科技公司竞争。她认为这一提议契合了伯纳姆关于英国成为科技领域全球领导者、将科技作为造福人类力量的愿景。
Nandy has welcomed a suggestion from the BBC director general, Matt Brittin, that a“public service algorithm” could compete with big tech, which she felt fitted “with [Burnham’s] vision about the UK being a world leader in tech as a force for good”.
她补充道：“要做到这一点，就必须参与其中，对技术进行投资并加以塑造。但我认为，要获得公众对此的许可，公众必须清晰地听到我们的声音：我们将立即采取行动保护人们，尤其是儿童。”
“In order to do that, you’ve got to be in the game, investing [and] shaping the technology,” she added. “But I think to win the permission of the public to do that, they’ve got to hear from us loud and clear that we will take action to protect people, particularly children, right now.”