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更高的利率对股市来说可能令人担忧——但事情并没有那么简单Higher interest rates can be scary for stocks — but it's not that simple

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股市目前存在严重的“超卖”问题(即市场中的股票价格被严重低估)。不过,这种情况已经持续得太久了。当前市场正处于自伊朗战争爆发后以及今年3月底市场跌至低点以来持续时间最长的“超卖”状态中。标普短期振荡器(S&P Short Range Oscillator)已经连续14个交易日处于“超卖”区间。根据吉姆·克莱默(Jim Cramer)数十年来一直信赖的这一技术指标,当该指标显示负面信号时,就意味着是买入股票的好时机。

Stocks have a bond problem. But enough is enough. The market is currently in its longest oversold stretch since the period just after the Iran war started and into the lows of the year in late March. The S & P Short Range Oscillator has been flashing oversold for 14 straight sessions. Our discipline when this momentum indicator that Jim Cramer has trusted for decades goes this negative says it's time to buy stocks.

在2026年,该指标仅出现过一次“超卖”情况:当时标普500指数在3月30日创下年内新低,随后该指标连续23个交易日处于负4%以下的区间。当时,中东地区局势仍未见好转,油价持续上涨,引发了人们对通货膨胀的担忧,债券收益率也随之上升;我们在3月份就果断买入了股票,结果市场随后迅速反弹——那确实是一个正确的决策。

During the Oscillator's only other oversold stretch in 2026, it was below the minus-4% threshold for 23 sessions in a row on either side of the S & P 500 's year-to-date closing low on March 30. Back then, with no off-ramp in sight in the Middle East, oil was marching higher, stoking inflation fears, and bond yields went along for the ride. We were putting money to work in March before the market ripped higher.

我们认为现在买入股票同样是正确的选择。虽然不必像吉姆在周三的晨会上说的那样“全仓买入”,但可以适当地增加投资力度。鉴于市场目前处于“超卖”状态,以及过去每当投资者纷纷抛售股票时反而适合买入的历史经验,我们认为现在买入股票是一个绝佳的机会。在会议之前,我们便实际行动起来,购买了更多防御性较强的股票,比如Cardinal Health和BNY。

It was the right move then. We believe buying is also the right move now. Not going full bore, as Jim said during Wednesday's Morning Meeting, but nibbling. With the market this oversold and the history of buying when the herd is heading for the exits on our side, we look at stocks right now with an opportunistic bent. Ahead of the meeting, we put our money where our mouths are — buying more shares of two more defensive-leaning names in Cardinal Health and BNY .

吉姆将Cardinal Health称为一只“具备爆发潜力”的股票,认为它已经准备好迎来反弹。不过,我们也理解投资者们对于买入的犹豫态度:美国和伊朗仍在努力达成能够完全重新开放霍尔木兹海峡的和平协议,尽管中东地区的石油出口已经显著恢复,这确实是一个积极的信号。虽然油价已经从今年最低点大幅回升,但西德克萨斯中质原油(West Texas Intermediate)自2月底战争爆发以来仍上涨了40%,全年累计涨幅达到了57%。持续的通货膨胀担忧促使美联储本月首次在三年内加息。

Jim called Cardinal Health a "breakout and crushed" stock that looks ready for a comeback. Those are the names he is interested in. However, we understand the reticence to buy. The U.S. and Iran are still having a tough time reaching a peace agreement that would fully reopen the Strait of Hormuz, though Middle East oil exports have recovered significantly , which is encouraging. While oil prices are well off their worst levels of the year, West Texas Intermediate crude is still up 40% since the war started in late February and 57% year to date. Persistent inflation concerns led the Federal Reserve to increase interest rates earlier this month for the first time in three years.

预计在今年年底之前,美联储还会至少再次加息。债券市场希望美联储能更快地采取行动:交易员已将30年期国债的收益率推高至2002年初以来的最高水平,10年期国债的收益率也接近二十年来的最高水平。不过,周三的收益率走势较为复杂(具体取决于债券的到期时间)——因为美联储发布的通胀指标低于预期,同时股市表现强劲。

At least one more Fed rate hike is expected before year-end. The bond market wants the Fed to move more quickly, with traders pushing the 30-year Treasury yield to its highest level since early 2002 and the benchmark 10-year Treasury yield to nearly two-decade highs. US30Y US10Y YTD mountain Yields on 30-year and 10-years Treasurys YTD To be sure, yields were somewhat mixed Wednesday, depending on the maturity of the bond, after the Fed's preferred inflation gauge came in cooler than expected and stocks were higher. Jim always says these oversold bounces are possible.

Jim总是指出,这种“被过度抛售后价格反弹”的现象是有可能发生的。虽然这种反弹令人鼓舞,并增加了美联储在10月会议上维持利率水平的概率,但当前的市场利率水平已经与股市的回报率相当接近;更何况,高通胀仍在侵蚀投资者的收益。因此,无论从哪个角度来看,较高的利率都对资产估值构成不利影响。这也解释了为什么近期市场走势较为疲软:许多股票的表现不佳(标普500指数中超过一半的成分股的交易价格低于其200日均线)。

While encouraging and raising the odds of the Fed holding borrowing costs steady at its October meeting, the level of market rates has become quite competitive with stocks — not to mention, elevated inflation still eats away at returns. So, higher rates are a headwind to asset valuations, no matter how you look at it. This helps explain why the market has had narrow leadership of late, with many stocks underneath the hood struggling; more than half of the S & P 500's constituents are trading below their 200-day average .

然而,利率的变化本身并不能真正反映资产的实际价值,尤其是在个股层面;此外,是否还有其他更积极的因素足以抵消高利率带来的负面影响、从而支撑相关资产的价格,也需要进一步分析。如果我们在课堂上被要求解释利率对股市的影响以及为何要忽略这些短期波动,我们的答案是:成为一名优秀的投资者,关键在于能够认识到何时应该打破传统的思维定式。

However, the direction of rates does little to tell you what you're actually valuing, especially at the individual stock level, or whether there are other, more positive reasons strong enough to offset the anchor of higher rates to keep the asset in question afloat. If we were sitting in a classroom and being asked to explain the impact of rates on stocks and why we're looking past that, our answer would be that being a good investor is recognizing when you should buck conventional wisdom.

首先,让我们先澄清一些基本概念:市场对于“利率上升导致股价下跌”的直觉反应其实有两个原因。其一,利率上升会直接导致资产估值下降(在其他条件不变的情况下);其二,如果使用折现现金流模型进行估值分析,那么较高的利率意味着需要提高模型中的折现率。

Textbook thinking First, let's get the textbook stuff out of the way. The reason for the knee-jerk reaction of "higher rates, sell equities" is twofold. Higher rates lead directly to lower valuations (all else equal). If you're using a discounted cash flow model for your valuation analysis, then a higher rate environment means you need to increase the discount rate in your model.

折扣率越高,现值越低。对于倾向于采用基于市盈率等倍数法进行股票估值的人来说,逻辑是一样的。利率上升时,未来盈利的价值会降低,因此对未来几年盈利所给予的倍数需要收缩。对于寻求丰厚股息回报的收益型投资者而言,高收益债券变得尤为吸引人。如果目标仅仅是为年度生活开支产生被动收入——牺牲长期上涨潜力以换取降低波动率——那么只要收益率足以提供所需现金流,国债等债务工具就能更安全地实现这一目标。

The higher the discount rate, the lower the present value. For those who lean more on a multiples-based approach to valuing stocks, such as price-to-earnings ratios, the thinking is the same. Future earnings are worth less when rates increase, so the multiple put on future years' earnings needs to contract. For those income-oriented investors who look for stocks with juicy dividend payouts, higher-yielding debt becomes especially interesting. If your goal is simply to generate passive income for annual living expenses — sacrificing long-term upside for reduced volatility — debt instruments like government Treasuries can deliver that much more safely, so long as the yield is enough to provide the needed cash flow.

债务收益率走高使这变得更加可行。任何打算在市场上活跃操作的人都需要熟悉这种教科书式的思维。但他们也需要知道,为什么这种思维往往会失效。试想,我们为什么首先会看到利率上升?美联储控制收益率曲线的短端——具体来说是联邦基金利率这一政策利率。这是银行间隔夜拆借的利率,并由此向外传导至越来越长的期限。

Higher yields on debt make that much more possible. Anyone who is going to be active in the market needs to be familiar with this textbook thinking. But they also need to know why it can so often fail. Consider why we are even seeing higher rates to begin with. The Fed controls the short end of the yield curve — and specifically, the policy rate known as the federal funds rate. This is what banks charge each other in overnight lending, and it ripples outward from there into longer and longer maturities.

央行调整联邦基金利率目标区间有两个原因——即其最大化就业和促进物价稳定的双重使命。思路是:通过提高隔夜联邦基金利率,推高其他借贷成本,进而抑制总需求,从而降低通胀率,同时尽量不冲击就业市场。正如常见情况那样,如果你想在投资中获得优势,光靠教科书是不行的。你需要加上一些“街头智慧”。街头智慧如果利率是通胀预期的替代指标,那么我们需要考虑通胀意味着什么。

Central bankers adjust the target range on the fed funds rate for two reasons — their dual mandate of maximizing employment and fostering stable prices. The idea is that they can raise the overnight fed funds rate to make other borrowing costs higher and, in turn, reduce aggregate demand, thereby lowering the rate of inflation, while hopefully not roiling the job market. As is so often the case, if you want an edge in investing, you're not going to get it from a textbook. Instead, you need to layer on some street smarts. Street smarts If rates are a proxy for inflation expectations, then we need to consider what inflation indicates.

通货膨胀是更多美元追逐有限商品和服务的结果——对商品和服务的竞争意味着买家愿意支付更高的价格。价格被推高的总体加权平均速率就是通货膨胀率。如果企业和消费者愿意支付更多,那是因为他们对自己有能力这样做充满信心。换句话说,他们对自己所处的经济环境感觉良好。这正是“更高利率要求股票当前估值更低”这一思路的警示所在。

Inflation is the result of more dollars chasing a limited amount of goods and services — competition for goods and services means that buyers are willing to pay more. The aggregate weighted-average rate at which prices are bid up is the inflation rate. If businesses and consumers are willing to pay more, it's because they are confident in their ability to do so. In other words, they feel good about the economy in which they operate. Therein lies the caveat to the thinking that higher rates demand lower present valuations on equities.

更高的利率反映的是经济火热——事实上,根据周三上午发布的新数据,美国第二季度国内生产总值按年率计算增长了2.2%,高于商务部此前估计的1.5%。经济火热意味着美联储可能会加息以防止经济过热(从而导致更高的通胀率),但这也意味着资金在流动、消费者在购买、企业在投资,并且人们对好日子将继续下去的信心很高。

Higher rates are a reflection of a hot economy — indeed, second-quarter U.S. gross domestic product increased at an annualized rate of 2.2%, according to new data released Wednesday morning; that's up from 1.5% in the Commerce Department's prior estimate. A hot economy means the Fed may raise rates to keep the economy from overheating (leading to a higher inflation rate), but it also means that money is flowing, consumers are buying, businesses are investing, and confidence is high that the good times will continue.

这正是你想成为企业主的那种环境——而我们正是从企业主的角度来看待股票投资。当你持有某家公司的股票时,你就拥有了这家公司的一部分。从企业主的角度来思考。当利率高企时,销售额会更好吗?因为所有人都在推高商品或服务的价格。还是你更愿意在一个利率较低的环境中做生意?因为经济糟糕,美联储因此试图刺激需求。

That is exactly the type of environment you want to be a business owner in — and it's that business owner perspective from which we approach the idea of investing in equities. When you own stock in a company, you own a piece of the company. Think from the perspective of a business owner. Are sales going to be better when rates are high because everyone is bidding up the price of goods or services? Or would you rather do business in an environment in which rates are lower because the economy stinks and the Federal Reserve is therefore trying to stimulate demand?

不需要MBA也能明白,需求强劲时销售会更好。那么,是因为利率更高而卖出股票,还是因为经营环境强劲而买入股票?这才是真正重要的问题,而如果你像我们Club一样是主动投资者,答案将根据具体情况逐一确定。

It doesn't take an MBA to figure out that sales do better when demand is strong. So, sell stocks because of higher rates, or buy stocks because of a strong operating environment? That's the question that actually matters, and if you're an active investor like us at the Club, the answer is going to be determined on a case-by-case basis.

当然,这让寻找证券变得更具挑战性,因为更高的利率确实意味着你需要区分赢家和输家。这些条件更为严苛。然而,坚持基本面分析的基本原则意味着,虽然选择标准可能更高,但确定赢家和输家的过程基本不变。归根结底,总是要回到资产负债表的健康、收入的韧性、利润率、盈利质量、现金流以及未来增长预期上。

Sure, it makes the hunt for securities a bit tougher because higher rates really do mean you need to differentiate winners from losers. These are more unforgiving conditions. However, sticking to the basics of fundamental analysis means that while the selection standard may be higher, the process of determining winners and losers is largely unchanged. In the end, it always comes back to balance sheet health, revenue resiliency, profit margins, earnings quality, cash flows, and future growth expectations.

在低利率环境中,你可能接受稍低的质量,而在利率上升时,需要提高标准,但过程不变。这就是为什么拥有一个适用于任何市场的流程如此重要。现实世界示例:以Meta Platforms为例。一方面,你可以机械地应用教科书,简单地断定利率更高,所以Meta必须遭受倍数收缩。另一方面,你可以超越股市入门级的思考。

You may accept a bit lower quality in a low-rate environment, and need to increase your standards when rates rise, but the process is unchanged. That's why having a process you can use in any market is so important. Real-world example Take Meta Platforms . On the one hand, you could apply the textbook across the board and simply determine that rates are higher, so Meta must suffer multiple contraction. On the other hand, you could go beyond that stock market 101 level of thinking.

这样做,你就能更好地理解如何看待像Meta这样的股票。你会因为美联储加息,使Meta未来的盈利在当前价值降低而卖出Meta吗?还是因为Meta最近解决了可能成为噩梦的青少年社交媒体成瘾诉讼,其后果相对投资者担心的要小得多,然后发布了几个新的硬件和软件公告,这些公告有望加速增长并增加未来几年的盈利潜力而买入Meta?

Do that, and you end up getting a much better sense of how to think about a stock like Meta. Do you sell Meta because the Fed is raising rates, making Meta's future earnings worth less in the here and now? Or do you buy Meta because they recently put to bed what could have been nightmare youth social media addiction litigation with relatively minimal consequences compared to what investors had feared, and then made several new hardware and software announcements that stand to accelerate growth and increase the earnings potential in coming years?

还有,如果需求足够强劲——就Meta的产品而言,我们认为情况确实如此——更高的利率根本不会实质性影响需求,当然,前提是利率不会升得过高过快,以至于完全破坏经济,那又该如何呢?

What about the fact that if demand is strong enough, and when it comes to Meta's offerings we think this to be the case, that higher rates simply don't materially impact demand, assuming, of course, that rates don't rise so high so fast that they completely derail the economy?

毕竟,投资者通常会青睐那些增长速度更快的公司——当强劲的需求与新的产品类别相结合时,就会产生新的收入来源,从而实现快速增长。例如,Muse公司凭借其类似ChatGPT的技术取得了显著的成功;Meta公司也刚刚推出了新的企业级平台(Meta Enterprise Platform)。那么,你应该怎么做呢?是应该根据较高的利率调整你的投资估值(即使用较低的市盈率或较高的折现率),还是应该基于销售和盈利增长加速的潜力来调整估值呢?

After all, investors tend to reward stronger growth rates — which is what you get when strong demand is met with new product categories that lead to greenfield revenue streams — like Muse and its ChatGPT-type moment , or the recently announced Meta Enterprise Platform . What should you do? Update your price target based on a lower multiple (or higher discount rate) due to higher interest rates, or update it based on a higher multiple thanks to the potential for accelerating sales and earnings growth?

我们认为应该选择后者。当然,如果谈论的是那些依赖房屋销售或翻新需求的房地产股票,情况就完全不同了。对于这类公司(比如Home Depot),较低的利率直接关系到它们的市场需求,因此利率确实是一个需要密切关注的变量。关键在于:你不能简单地将某个宏观经济指标(比如10年期国债的收益率)应用于整个股票投资组合,并认为这个指标就能决定你应该如何处理每一只股票。

For us, it's the latter. Of course, if you were to ask us about a housing stock that relies on home sales or renovation demand, that's an entirely different story. Since lower rates are directly tied to demand in a name like that (think Club name Home Depot ), then rates really are a concern meaningful enough to keep us uninterested. That's the point. You cannot apply one high-level macroeconomic metric such as the yield on 10-year Treasuries to an equity portfolio and think that will tell you what to do with every stock you own.

在考虑利率时,还有一个因素需要特别注意——这个因素不仅有助于你决定是否应该继续持有某只股票,还能帮助你判断是否应该加大对某些“潜力股”的投资力度,或者是否应该利用那些可能只是暂时性的、由利率变化引起的市场疲软现象。这个因素就是你的投资期限(即你的投资计划持续的时间)。正如我们上面所提到的,我们的观点是针对长期投资者的。

That said, there is one other factor to be mindful of when thinking about interest rates, and this is what will truly help in not only deciding if you should stay invested but also in figuring out if you should press your bet on an identified winner, or perhaps, look to take advantage of what may prove to be temporary, rate-induced weakness. That is, your investment horizon. Investment Horizon Our views, as laid out above, are for the long-term investor.

为什么这一点很重要呢?因为作为长期投资者,我们的目标不是试图预测市场走势,而是要发现那些价格合理的优质企业,买入它们的股票,并保持耐心。用一句俗话来说,我们应该把股市看作是一个由众多股票组成的市场,而不仅仅是一个简单的投资场所。需要注意的是,利率是不断变化的。

Why does that matter? Because as long-term investors we have to consider that the goal is not to play the market so much as it is to identify great businesses at good prices, buy their stocks, and be patient. As the saying goes, we like to think about it more as a market of stocks, rather than simply the stock market. The thing about rates is that they are constantly changing.

这并不意味着我们应该忽视利率的变化,但确实意味着我们需要从利率周期的角度来考虑长期投资。从企业主的角度来看,这一点非常合理:当利率超过5%时,企业不会立即关闭业务,而是在利率下降后再重新开业;相反,企业应该致力于在好时期发展壮大,并在困难时期生存下来,以便在困境过去后能够再次繁荣——正如历史上一直发生的那样。

That doesn't mean we should ignore them, but it does mean that we need to think about long-term investments through interest rate cycles. If you think about it from the perspective of a business owner, that makes a ton of sense. You don't simply shut your doors when rates breach 5% and reopen them when they come back down. Rather, you build the business to thrive in the good times, and survive in the bad ones, so that it can thrive again when the bad time passes — as it always has throughout history.

通过考虑自己的投资期限,我们可以过滤掉利率波动带来的干扰。以 Meta 为例,由于我们关注的是长期发展,因此我们不仅有空间去思考未来的盈利潜力,还有机会预测未来的利率水平。Muse 个人 AI 代理的推出以及 Meta 企业平台的宣布,让我们能够展望未来几年,预测公司的盈利增长趋势。同时,这些举措也帮助我们分析了高利率的成因及其发展趋势。

By taking into account your investment horizon, you can cut through the noise of rates. Going back to Meta, by focusing on the long term, we have the luxury of thinking not only about future earnings potential but also about future rate levels as well. The launch of the Muse personal AI agent and announcement of the Meta Enterprise Platform helps us look several years into the future and think about where earnings can grow to by then. It also lets us think through the cause of high rates and where those are going.

鉴于我们认为通胀的很大一部分与供应问题有关,而随着时间的推移供应会逐渐得到改善,从而降低通胀率;再加上美联储正在加息(这也会减少总体需求),我们可以更加理性地应对高利率环境。因此,如果我们能够成功解决通胀的根本原因,当前的高利率环境最终可能会转化为未来的低利率环境。虽然利率的变动会影响你短期内关于何时买入的决策,但它不应成为决定你该购买什么的主要因素——当然,除非利率确实对某些行业(如房地产相关股票)的基本面有重大影响。

Given that we think a decent portion of inflation is supply-related, and that supplies will start to catch up over time, reducing the rate of inflation — not to mention that the Fed is raising rates, which should also reduce overall demand — we can think through the high-rate environment in a more measured way. This allows us to conclude that if everything works out and we successfully address the root causes of inflation, the current rising rate headwind can become tomorrow's declining rate tailwind. So, while interest rate dynamics may impact your near-term thinking on when to buy, it shouldn't play as heavy a role in determining what to buy — unless, of course, interest rates really are material to the fundamentals, such as with housing-related stocks.

不过,即便这种分析也是关于利率变化对股票基本面的影响,而不仅仅是诸如“利率上升,应卖出股票”这样的简单结论。归根结底,是否基于利率来决定买入或卖出股票,这种决策应该留给那些进行宏观层面投资的投资者(即那些购买市场或行业整体性交易型基金的投资者),以及短期市场参与者;而不是那些具有长期投资视野的主动选股者。

But then again, even that analysis is about the impact on the fundamentals — not simply a first-level thought along the lines of "rates rising, sell equities." Bottom Line In the end, making broad-based determinations on whether to buy or sell stocks based on rates should be reserved for macro-level investors (meaning those that buy market or sector-wide exchange-traded funds), and short-term market participants, not active stock pickers with long investment horizons. Active stock pickers must instead consider the merits of each holding against the prospect of higher rates.

主动选股者必须根据每只股票自身的基本面,来评估利率上升对股票价值的影响。只有这样,才能判断利率是否真的是卖出的理由,还是基于公司自身基本面存在更重要的卖出理由。这并不是说利率对投资者的整体投资策略没有影响——当市场整体处于压力之下、上涨空间变小时,增加现金持有量是完全合理的。然而,确实有更明智的方式来增加现金持有量,而不是简单地减少每只股票的持有比例,同时完全忽略每家公司自身的基本面(无论是在高利率环境下,还是利率下降之后)。

In doing so, only then will you be able to determine if the rates are a reason to sell, or if instead, there is an even more material reason to stay the course, based on the company's own fundamentals. That's not to say that rates shouldn't impact your overall level of exposure. It's perfectly reasonable to raise cash levels overall on the idea that broader market pressure makes upside harder to find. However, it is to say that there are better ways to raise cash than simply taking a little off of each position, with no consideration of each company's own merits, both in the high-rate environment and once it passes. To steal a lesson from Warren Buffett, while rates certainly tell you about the direction of the present valuation of a business, all else equal, they do little to inform the internal strength of the operation (the fundamentals). Buffett has been the consummate buy-and-hold investor who generally ignores near-term rate moves.

借用沃伦·巴菲特的话来说:虽然利率确实能反映企业当前的市场估值情况,但在其他条件相同的情况下,利率对企业的内部运营实力(即其基本面)几乎没有影响。巴菲特本身就是一位典型的“长期持有”投资者,他通常会忽略短期的利率波动。作为长期投资者,我们更应该关注企业的基本面。此外,对于那些不断进行创新、推出改变世界的技术(如人工智能)的公司来说,几乎不可能在所有条件都相同的情况下做出投资决策。

As long-term investors, we must be far more concerned with the fundamentals than anything else. Plus, when dealing with innovative companies that are constantly reinventing themselves and bringing to market world-changing technologies such as AI, rarely, if ever, can we actually say that all else is equal. That's why Jim calls his style of investing buy-and-homework, because investors should never buy and hold no matter what. He advocates staying on top of each holding and constantly stress-testing it against the reasons the stock was bought in the first place. (Jim Cramer's Charitable Trust is long META, HD, CAH, BNY. See here for a full list of the stocks.) As ar to the CNBC Investing Club with Jim Cramer, you will receive a trade alert before Jim makes a trade.

因此,吉姆将自己的投资风格称为“买入并持续研究公司基本面”的投资方式——因为投资者绝不应该盲目地买入并长期持有任何股票。

Jim waits 45 minutes after sending a trade alert before buying or selling a stock in his charitable trust's portfolio. If Jim has talked about a stock on CNBC TV, he waits 72 hours after issuing the trade alert before executing the trade.

他主张要密切关注每一只持仓,并不断用最初买入该股票的理由对其进行压力测试。(吉姆·克莱默的慈善信托持有META、HD、CAH、BNY。)

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