纽约——爱尔兰总理米歇尔·马丁驳斥了“爱尔兰已被移民‘占领’”的说法。尽管目前约有四分之一的爱尔兰居民出生于国外，但他认为该国人口结构的巨大变化主要是由经济繁荣所带动的合法移民潮所导致的。
NEW YORK — Irish Prime Minister Micheál Martin pushed back on the notion that Ireland has been "overrun" by immigrants as nearly one in four residents is now foreign-born, arguing that the country's dramatic demographic change has been driven largely by legal migration tied to its economic success story.
在接受福克斯新闻数字频道（Fox News Digital）的独家采访时，马丁承认爱尔兰的庇护制度存在问题：在申请数量创下历史新高后，该制度的处理速度确实过于缓慢。他还谈到了政府为加强公民身份管理而采取的措施，并表示在关于移民与犯罪的激烈争论中，政府愿意公开按国籍分类的犯罪统计数据。
Martin, in an exclusive interview with Fox News Digital, acknowledged failures in Ireland's asylum system after a record surge in applications, saying it "was too slow" in recent years. He also addressed moves to tighten citizenship rules and opened the door to publishing crime statistics by nationality amid a heated debate over immigration and crime. The issue has become a political flashpoint across Europe and the U.S. and comes weeks after President Donald Trump warned about Europe's approach while appearing alongside Martin in Dublin.
这一议题已成为欧洲和美国的政治热点。就在几周前，唐纳德·特朗普总统在都柏林与马丁共同出席活动时，还警告欧洲应妥善处理移民问题。特朗普当时表示：“你们现在对移民采取的措施，其实是在自毁前程。”
"That immigration, what you're doing to yourselves, you're just killing yourselves," Trump said. TRUMP SAYS HE WOULD 'LOVE' TO SEE IRELAND UNIFIED AS ONE NATION "Ireland is not overrun in any shape or form," Martin told Fox News Digital. "But we are conscious that it is an issue that has to be addressed robustly, firmly, fairly as well in terms of those seeking asylum."
“爱尔兰根本没有被移民‘占领’，”马丁对福克斯新闻数字频道说，“但我们确实意识到这个问题必须得到妥善、公正的解决，尤其是对于那些寻求庇护的人。”他补充道：“由于移民带来的压力，整个欧洲都在加强边境管控措施。”
"All over Europe it's tightening up because of the pressures and migration has created significant political pressures across Europe," he added. "Obviously, illegal migration is the more potent issue. And our system was too slow in processing those seeking asylum. That has changed.
“显然，非法移民才是更严重的问题。我们之前的庇护制度在处理申请方面效率过低，现在已经有所改善——我们加快了申请审批流程以及上诉程序的办理速度。政府正在制定新的移民政策，其中包括将获得公民身份的居住年限从五年延长至八年，并要求申请人具备语言能力和经济自给自足的能力。”
We've accelerated the application and the consideration of applications, and we've also now accelerated the appeals process." Martin said his government is developing a new migration strategy that includes proposals to increase residency requirements for citizenship from five to eight years and introduce language and economic self-sufficiency requirements.
移民问题在爱尔兰的政治辩论中变得越来越重要，这与住房短缺、犯罪率上升以及该国人口结构快速变化等因素密切相关。几十年前，爱尔兰的人口结构还相对同质化；如今情况已大不相同。
Immigration has become increasingly intertwined in Ireland's political debate with concerns over housing, crime and rapidly changing demographics in a country that was drastically more homogeneous a generation ago.
2023年11月，这一议题引起了国际社会的关注：出生于阿尔及利亚的爱尔兰公民里亚德·布查克（Riad Bouchaker）在都柏林一所学校外刺杀了三名儿童和一名儿童看护人员，这一事件引发了骚乱——部分反对大规模移民的人将愤怒转化为暴力行为。此后，爱尔兰政府在全国范围内推行为寻求庇护者提供住房的计划，但遭到了持续强烈的反对；部分抗议活动甚至演变成了暴力冲突。
The issue burst into international view in November 2023, after Algerian-born Irish citizen Riad Bouchaker stabbed three young children and a childcare worker outside a school in Dublin, triggering riots as anger among some opponents of mass immigration spilled into violence on the streets of the capital. The unrest was followed by sustained opposition to government efforts to house asylum seekers in communities across the country, with some protests also descending into violent clashes.
今年夏天，另一起事件再次将移民问题推到了公众视野的中心：43岁的美国女性杰米·卡尼（Jamey Carney）在爱尔兰凯里郡（County Kerry）的家中遇害。她的约旦籍男友是这起案件的嫌疑人，他曾向爱尔兰申请庇护但被拒绝，随后仍在爱尔兰境内继续上诉。案发后不久，他逃往土耳其，之后又前往约旦；目前爱尔兰警方正在寻求将其引渡回国。
Immigration returned to the spotlight this summer following the violent killing of Jamey Carney, a 43-year-old American mother from New York who was found dead at her home in County Kerry. Her Jordanian boyfriend, the suspect in the case, had applied for asylum in Ireland but was rejected and was appealing the decision while remaining in the country. He fled Ireland for Turkey shortly after the killing, later traveling to Jordan and Irish police are now seeking his extradition.
福克斯新闻数字频道（Fox News Digital）询问马丁（Martin），这起案件是否暴露了爱尔兰移民制度的漏洞，以及是否需要修改相关法律。
Fox News Digital asked Martin whether the case exposed weaknesses in Ireland's immigration system and whether laws needed to be changed. "We're looking at all of that in terms of tightening up the laws," Martin said.
马丁表示：“我们正在从收紧法律的角度审视这一切。我们将确保，特别是当人们的申请被拒绝时，能够迅速采取相应的后果措施。”一名在美国母亲被谋杀后逃离爱尔兰的移民在约旦被捕。爱尔兰移民政策的批评者认为，移民对犯罪负有不成比例的责任，而反对这一观点的人则表示，此类说法不公平地污名化了该国不断增长的外国出生人口。但由于爱尔兰国家犯罪统计数据通常不公布国籍细分，这场辩论一直难以定论，可供检验相互矛盾说法的公开数据十分有限。
"We will make sure that, particularly if people's applications are rejected, that there's fast movement in terms of the consequences of that." MIGRANT WHO FLED IRELAND AFTER AMERICAN MOTHER'S MURDER IS ARRESTED IN JORDAN Critics of Ireland's immigration policies have argued that migrants are disproportionately responsible for crime, while opponents of that view say such claims unfairly stigmatize the country's growing foreign-born population. But the debate has been difficult to settle because Irish national crime statistics do not routinely publish nationality breakdowns, leaving limited public data to test competing claims.
数据的缺乏促使女性权益倡导者和一些爱尔兰议员呼吁提高透明度，包括提议公布按国籍分类的犯罪统计数据。
The lack of data has prompted calls for greater transparency from women's advocates and some Irish lawmakers, including proposals to publish crime statistics broken down by nationality.
当被问及犯罪统计数据是否应包含嫌疑人国籍时，马丁表示：“我对数据没有异议……因为数据可以提供参考，因为有时你会得到一种失真的画面。所以就我而言，数据很重要。”但马丁反驳了国籍本身驱动犯罪的观点。
"I've no issue with data ... because that can inform, because sometimes you get a kind of distorted picture," Martin said when asked whether crime statistics should include the nationality of alleged suspects. "So as far as I'm concerned, data is important." But Martin pushed back on the argument that nationality itself drives crime.
他说：“我不认为犯罪是某个国籍所特有的。但确实存在一些问题，在某些情况下，是的，发生过可怕的犯罪，但也不全是非法移民所为。”住房问题已成为另一个引爆点，爱尔兰正努力建造足够的住房以跟上其不断增长的人口。
"I don't think crime is specific to any nationality," he said. "But there are issues there, and in some cases, yes, there's been horrific crimes committed, but not all by illegal migrants either." Housing has become another flashpoint as Ireland struggles to build enough homes to keep pace with its growing population.
马丁承认，合法抵达爱尔兰的工人增加了住房需求，但表示其政府的应对之策是增加供应，去年建造了约36000套住房，比上年增长超过20%，创下自2011年以来的最高年度总量。
Martin acknowledged that workers arriving legally in Ireland add to housing demand but said his government’s answer is to increase supply, with about 36,000 homes built last year, up more than 20% from the previous year and the highest annual total since 2011.
爱尔兰政府依赖酒店及其他房产安置寻求庇护者，这一做法本身已成为争议焦点。2025年，该国在庇护住宿及相关服务上花费约14亿美元，同时还直接购置房产，包括以约1.75亿美元买下规模庞大的城市西酒店及会议中心。稀缺公共住房的分配进一步加剧了移民问题的争论。
The Irish government's reliance on hotels and other properties to house asylum seekers has itself become a flashpoint. The state spent about $1.4 billion on asylum accommodation and related services in 2025, while also buying properties outright, including the sprawling Citywest Hotel and Convention Centre for about $175 million. The allocation of scarce public housing has further fueled the immigration debate.
都柏林的压力尤为严峻。本月市议会公布的数据显示，在其社会住房等候名单上的15005户家庭中，42%被归类为非爱尔兰籍。上个月爱尔兰无家可归人口创下历史新高，这在网上引发了愤怒情绪。
The pressure is particularly acute in Dublin, where figures released by the city council this month showed 42% of the 15,005 households on its social-housing waiting list were categorized as non-Irish, fueling anger online as Ireland's homeless population hit a record high last month.
根据向福克斯新闻数字频道提供的政府数据，在全国范围内，2025年社会住房申请者中有28.7%——近18000户家庭——为非爱尔兰公民。其中包括近3200名来自欧盟以外、拥有难民身份的申请者，较上一年增长了64%。
Nationally, 28.7% of social housing applicants — nearly 18,000 households — were non-Irish citizens in 2025, according to government figures provided to Fox News Digital. That included nearly 3,200 applicants from outside the EU with refugee status, up 64% from the previous year.
当被问及在等候名单压力下爱尔兰公民是否应在社会住房方面获得优先待遇时，马丁支持这一想法，称“我们的基本立场是本国公民优先”。爱尔兰的人口结构转变十分迅速。
Asked whether Irish citizens should receive preferential treatment for social housing amid pressure on waiting lists, Martin backed the idea, saying that "our position is basically its citizens get priority." Ireland's demographic transformation has been rapid.
居住在爱尔兰的人中，近四分之一出生在国外，而二十年前这一比例约为七分之一。根据欧盟统计局的数据，爱尔兰目前的外国出生居民比例为23.3%，在欧盟中排名第四。
Nearly one in four people living in Ireland was born abroad, up from about one in seven two decades ago. At 23.3%, Ireland now has the fourth-highest percentage of foreign-born residents in the European Union, according to Eurostat.
这一转变在2004年欧盟东扩后加速。该决定助推了爱尔兰“凯尔特之虎”经济繁荣时期的移民急剧增长，当时多年的快速增长使该国从西欧较贫穷的经济体之一转变为最富裕的经济体之一。
The transformation accelerated after the EU expanded eastward in 2004, a decision that helped fuel a sharp rise in immigration during Ireland's "Celtic Tiger" economic boom, when years of rapid growth transformed the country from one of Western Europe's poorer economies into one of its wealthiest.
“这和美国的情况有点相似——各个地区之间的人员流动都非常自由，”马丁说道。“我们的经济也因此得到了极大的发展。”他指出，金融服务和医疗设备行业尤其依赖技术娴熟的外国工人，其中许多工人是通过工作许可进入爱尔兰的。根据欧盟统计局（Eurostat）的数据，截至2025年初，爱尔兰有超过50万非欧盟公民居住在该国，占该国总人口的9.3%。
"It's a bit like America really, free movement for the states here," Martin said. "Our economy's expanded hugely." Martin pointed to financial services and medical devices as industries that rely on skilled foreign workers, including non-EU workers arriving on work permits. More than half a million non-EU citizens were living in Ireland at the start of 2025, accounting for 9.3% of the population, according to Eurostat.
“过去三十年间，爱尔兰的经济确实发生了巨大的变化，这主要归功于其自身的经济增长，”马丁补充道。“经济一旦开始发展，就很难再被逆转。”自20世纪80年代的经济停滞时期以来，爱尔兰经济经历了显著的复苏：先是经历了‘凯尔特之虎’（Celtic Tiger）时期的繁荣，随后在2008年遭遇了严重的经济危机，但随后又强劲反弹。在此期间，爱尔兰成为了苹果（Apple）、Meta、辉瑞（Pfizer）和强生（Johnson & Johnson）等美国跨国公司的欧洲总部所在地。
"It has been very dramatic, I agree, in the last three decades, largely because of the economic growth of Ireland," Martin said. "You can't switch off an economy either." Ireland's economy has undergone a remarkable turnaround since the economic stagnation of the 1980s, through the "Celtic Tiger" boom and a devastating crash in 2008, before rebounding strongly. Over those decades, Ireland became a major European base for U.S. multinationals including Apple, Meta, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson.
马丁在爱尔兰政治中扮演了重要角色：他曾在1997年起连续几届由共和党（Fianna Fáil）领导的政府中任职，并于2020年成为爱尔兰总理（Taoiseach），2025年再次出任这一职务。
Martin has been at the center of Irish politics through much of that period, serving in successive Fianna Fáil-led governments from 1997 before becoming prime minister, or Taoiseach, in 2020 and returning to the post in 2025.
根据爱尔兰中央统计局（CSO）的数据，2025年爱尔兰经济继续增长，国内生产总值（GDP）增长了8%。然而，经济繁荣并未消除民众面临的压力：近45%的受访者表示难以维持基本生活开销；另有64%的受访者认为住房问题以及通货膨胀和生活成本是爱尔兰最紧迫的问题。
Ireland's economy continued to expand in 2025, with GDP growing 8%, according to Ireland's Central Statistics Office (CSO). But prosperity has not eliminated pressure on households: nearly 45% reported difficulty making ends meet, while 64% identified housing and the same share identified inflation and the cost of living as among Ireland's most pressing problems, according to the CSO.
近年来，爱尔兰面临的移民压力日益加剧——尤其是在疫情之后，寻求庇护的申请人数量激增，其中许多人来自非洲、中东等地。2024年，爱尔兰的庇护申请人数从疫情前的每年约3,500人飙升至创纪录的18,561人，但随后在2025年下降了近30%，并在2026年继续呈现下降趋势。
Ireland's more recent migration pressures have included a post-pandemic surge in asylum applicants, including people arriving from Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere. Applications jumped from roughly 3,500 a year before COVID to a record 18,561 in 2024, before falling nearly 30% last year and continuing to decline in 2026.
另外，超过12万名逃离俄罗斯入侵的乌克兰人通过欧盟临时保护机制而非庇护体系抵达。马丁表示，目前约有8万人仍留在爱尔兰，其中许多人已经就业并为经济作出贡献。
Separately, more than 120,000 Ukrainians fleeing Russia's invasion arrived under the EU's Temporary Protection system rather than the asylum system. Martin said roughly 80,000 remain in Ireland, with many now working and contributing to the economy.
马丁还强调，欧盟自由流动是双向的，爱尔兰公民自身也在欧盟各地生活和工作。
Martin also emphasized that EU free movement works in both directions, with Irish citizens themselves living and working throughout the bloc.
“爱尔兰人在欧洲各地工作和生活，”马丁说。“这是事情的另一面，可能也是我们尚未充分意识到的一面，但它确实存在。”马丁还把爱尔兰现代人口结构的变化放在该国更悠久的人口外流历史之中，并指出爱尔兰饥荒之后曾出现大规模移民潮。
"Irish people are working and living all over Europe," Martin said. "That's the other side of that story and that is something perhaps that we're not as conscious of, but it is reality." Martin also placed Ireland's modern demographic transformation within the country's much longer history of emigration, pointing to the exodus that followed the Irish Famine.
“大饥荒之前，1845年的爱尔兰有800万人口。这随后引发了大批爱尔兰人移民美国的浪潮，”马丁说。
"Ireland had 8 million people in 1845 before the Great Famine. That led to the big wave of Irish people migrating to come to America," Martin said.
“我们爱尔兰岛上的人口规模尚未达到当年的水平，因此需要从宏观的历史视角来审视这一现象。”
"We're not at that level yet on the island of Ireland, so we need to look at it through the broad sweep of history in a historical perspective."