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中期选举面临的真正威胁是普通美国人认为暴力是解决之道The Real Threat to the Midterms Is Regular Americans Thinking Violence Is the Answer

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2021年1月6日对美国国会大厦的袭击,并非主要由极端分子或边缘派民兵组织所为。根据相关数据,实施这次袭击的其实是普通的美国人。

The attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021, was not conducted mainly by extremists or fringe militia groups. It was, according to the data, the work of normal Americans.

这是罗伯特·A·佩普(Robert A. Pape)在其新书《我们最可怕的敌人:暴力民粹主义时代的美国》(Our Own Worst Enemies: America in the Age of Violent Populism)中得出的结论。他在书中引用了那些在袭击后被捕并受到起诉的人的相关数据。

虽然“Proud Boys”(骄傲男孩)和“Oath Keepers”(誓言守护者”等极端组织成为了媒体关注的焦点,但佩普在担任芝加哥安全与威胁项目(Chicago Project on Security and Threats, CPOST)创始主任期间收集的数据显示:在因这次袭击而被起诉的人中,绝大多数(90%)与任何民兵组织或激进组织都没有关联。

That is the conclusion Robert A. Pape lays out in his new book, Our Own Worst Enemies: America in the Age of Violent Populism, citing data about those who were arrested and charged following the attack. While Proud Boys and Oath Keepers gained most of the headlines, data collected by Pape as part of his work as founding director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats (CPOST) found that the vast majority (90 percent) of those charged with crimes arising from the attack held no affiliation with militias or militant organizations.

佩普的分析显示:其中22%的人是企业家,近30%的人拥有大学学位;被告中包括医生、工程师、首席执行官以及政府工作人员。近40%的人从事白领工作,而只有8%的参与者处于失业状态。

Pape’s analysis found that 22 percent were business owners, and almost 30 percent held a college degree. Among the defendants were doctors, engineers, CEOs, and government employees. Nearly 40 percent held white-collar jobs, while just 8 percent of participants were unemployed.

这些发现对于理解佩普书中提出的核心观点至关重要:美国人普遍认为政治暴力的威胁并非来自社会边缘,而是来自主流社会。

The findings are key to understanding the warning that is central to Pape’s book: Americans do not understand that the threat of political violence is coming not from the fringes, but from the mainstream.

佩普在书中写道:“随着2026年中期选举的临近,美国选举正逐渐进入一个危险阶段——国家权力、民众抗议活动以及政治合法性之间的冲突日益加剧。对大多数美国人来说,政治暴力仍然被视为一种偶发的现象:虽然发生时令人震惊,但最终会自行消退。这种看法虽然让人感到‘安心’,但实际上却越来越危险。”《WIRED》杂志采访了佩普,探讨了他的这本书、他对中期选举中暴力事件的担忧、理解这次国会大厦袭击事件的重要性,以及他对民主制度最终能够获胜的希望。(本次采访经过删减和润色,以保持内容的简洁性和清晰度。)

“As the 2026 midterms approach, US elections are entering a danger zone in which state power, protest, and political legitimacy increasingly collide,” Pape writes in the book. “For most Americans, political violence is still understood as episodic—shocking when it erupts but destined to fade. That assumption is reassuring. It is also increasingly dangerous.”WIRED spoke to Pape about his book, his concerns about violence in the midterms, why it is so important to understand the attack on the Capitol, and what, if anything, gives him hope that democracy will win out. This interview has been edited for length and clarity.

大卫·吉尔伯特(David Gilbert):你的书主要探讨了“暴力民粹主义”这一现象。那么,什么是暴力民粹主义?为什么它在2026年会变得更加普遍呢?

DAVID GILBERT: Your book is centered on the idea of violent populism. What is it, and why is it on the rise in 2026? ROBERT A. PAPE: Violent populism is a dangerous political climate where substantial segments of the public increasingly accept physical force as a legitimate tool to gain, preserve, or defend political power.

罗伯特·A·佩普:暴力民粹主义是一种危险的政治气候,在这种气候下,相当一部分公众日益接受将武力作为获取、维护或捍卫政治权力的合法工具。由于对美国身份和公民身份本质的深刻文化冲突,加之精英阶层将政治描绘成敌对双方之间生死存亡斗争的言论,这种现象正在抬头。这种结构性动态将普通的、主流的公民转变为政治侵略的积极参与者。

It is on the rise due to a profound cultural clash over the nature of American identity and citizenship, exacerbated by elite rhetoric that frames politics as an existential struggle between enemies. This structural dynamic transforms ordinary, mainstream citizens into active participants in political aggression.

你称中期选举是“一场关于美国竞争能否保持在非暴力范畴内的压力测试”。你是否担心这次选举周围的政治暴力?

You call the midterms “a stress test of whether American competition can remain bounded by nonviolence.”Are you concerned about the political violence around this election?

是的,对本届选举周期的担忧程度达到了前所未有的高度,超过了20世纪60年代深刻社会动荡以来的任何时期。随着高度易燃的国内气候和全球不稳定因素(如正在进行的与伊朗的战争)加剧了全国性的焦虑,选举已日益成为危险的潜在爆发点。这种动态是对我们基础性制度能否成功保障和平政治过渡的一次直接而关键的考验。

Yes, the level of concern for this election cycle is at an unprecedented high, surpassing anything seen since the deep social upheavals of the 1960s. With national anxieties amplified by a highly combustible domestic climate and global instability like the ongoing war with Iran, elections have increasingly become dangerous potential flashpoints. This dynamic represents a direct, critical test of whether our foundational institutions can still successfully enforce peaceful political transitions.

在进入中期选举之际,许多人将注意力集中在民兵组织等极端团体的可能行动上。这是不是担心错了方向?

Heading into the midterms, a lot of people are focusing on possible action from extremist groups, such as militias. Is this the wrong thing to be worried about?

仅仅关注边缘民兵组织是对当今美国民主所面临的主要危险的误判。真正的威胁在于政治激进化已经突破了边缘地带,并完全渗透到了主流选民群体中。我们最应该担心的是数千万普通的美国人,他们现在正被动接受或积极支持通过暴力来实现其政治目标。

Focusing exclusively on fringe militias misdiagnoses the primary danger facing American democracy today. The real threat is that political radicalization has broken out of the fringes and fully migrated into the mainstream electorate. Our primary worry should be the tens of millions of ordinary Americans who now passively accept or actively endorse violence to achieve their political goals.

你写道,美国人再次误读了政治暴力的预警信号。这些预警信号是什么?

You write that Americans are misreading the warning signs of political violence, again. What are those warning signs?

主要的警示信号是:公众普遍将这些具有攻击性的政治行为视为日常政治生活的“常态”,并被动地接受了这些行为。这一现象体现在整个媒体领域中暴力象征主义的泛滥,以及精英阶层的言论中——这些言论剥夺了反对派的合法性。当普通民众开始将政治反对派视为一种具有威胁性的、敌对的力量时,现实世界中的冲突就已经不可避免了。

The primary warning sign is the broad public normalization and passive acceptance of aggressive political acts as standard features of daily political life. This is signaled by an explosion of violent symbolism across the entire media spectrum and elite rhetoric that strips legitimacy away from opposing factions. When ordinary citizens begin to view political opposition as an existential, hostile force, the ground is fully prepared for real-world conflict.

你在书中指出,1月6日对国会大厦的袭击标志着“常规政治冲突”与“内战”之间的分界线被彻底突破了。为什么这是一个如此重要的转折点呢?

You write in the book that the January 6th attack on the Capitol was a rubicon crossed between "routine political conflict and civil war." Why was it such an important turning point?

1月6日的袭击打破了至关重要的民主准则:即权力的更迭应当通过投票来实现,而不是通过暴力手段。这次事件表明,选举结果不仅可能受到外部势力的挑战,也可能受到美国公民自身的暴力行为的影响(这些公民的目标正是他们自己的立法机构)。这一行为的出现表明,内部政治争端已不再受到对非暴力原则的共同遵守的约束。

The January 6th attack shattered the all-important democratic norm that power changes hands through ballots rather than raw displays of physical coercion. It demonstrated that an electoral outcome could be violently challenged not by foreign adversaries, but by a massive crowd of American citizens targeting their own legislative body. This crossed line signaled that internal political disputes were no longer reliably bounded by a shared commitment to nonviolence.

关于2021年1月6日国会大厦袭击事件的描述通常认为,它是美国社会边缘极端主义势力所为。但数据并不支持这种说法,对吧?

The narrative around the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol is that it was driven by extremist groups on the fringes of American society. But that's not what the data shows, right?

CPOST(Center for Political Studies and Analysis)的数据彻底驳斥了这种观点。数据显示,参与这次暴乱的绝大多数人并非孤立的激进分子或武装民兵组织成员,而是“普通”的政治活动家——他们拥有稳定的住所、工作,以及401(k)退休储蓄计划。其中只有十分之一的人属于民兵组织成员;近一半的人是医生、律师、企业主或美国国务院的官员;甚至有些人还在前一年参加过白宫的圣诞派对。他们代表了美国中产阶级的普遍观点:即民主制度已经失去了合法性。

CPOST data completely disproves the fringe narrative by showing the remarkable mainstream geography of those involved in the insurrection. The vast majority of the actors were not isolated radicals or card-carrying militia members, but “normal” political activists with stable homes, jobs, and 401(k)s. Only 1 in 10 were militia members. Nearly half were doctors, lawyers, CEOs, business owners, US State Department appointees—and some even attended the White House Christmas party the year before. Most represented a cross-section of middle-class America acting on a shared, mainstream belief that democratic institutions were no longer legitimate.

你认为为什么多年来围绕1月6日国会山袭击事件的主流叙事一直存在如此大的偏差?

Why do you think the prevailing narrative around the January 6 attack on the Capitol has been so wrong for so many years?

这种叙事之所以错误,是因为公共机构和媒体最初过度依赖了不完善的执法数据库,而这些数据自然而然地将那些最显眼、最有组织的边缘分子孤立了出来。随着大量数据的涌入,他们却没有及时更新读者的认知。这种做法忽视了公众舆论和广泛调查研究背后更深层的结构性动态。分析人士只关注那些显眼的怪异人物,却错过了实际上推动了这一事件的、大规模的被动式主流支持浪潮。

The narrative has been wrong because public institutions and media outlets initially relied heavily on imperfect law enforcement databases that naturally isolated the most prominent, organized fringe actors. And they did not update their readers and viewers as the bulk of the data came in. This approach ignored the underlying, broader structural dynamics of public opinion and extensive survey research. By focusing strictly on the visible, oddball characters, analysts missed the massive wave of passive, mainstream support that actually fueled the event.

我对这本书的解读是,大多数人对2026年美国的政治暴力存在根本性的误解。这种理解准确吗?

My reading of this book is that most people have a fundamental misunderstanding of political violence in America in 2026. Is that accurate?

这完全准确,也是整本书的核心且紧迫的论点。美国面临的最大威胁并非一群失控的激进极端分子,而是数百万原本普通的公民现在已经接受将暴力作为一种常规政治工具的现实。一旦政治暴力被主流社会常态化,旧有的制度性解决方案就将失去效力。

That is completely accurate and is the central, urgent argument of the entire book. The greatest threat to the United States is not an out-of-control group of radical extremists, but the reality that millions of otherwise ordinary citizens now accept violence as a regular political tool. Once political violence is normalized by the mainstream, old institutional solutions cease to function effectively.

你将当前美国中产阶级白人对暴力民粹主义的拥护,与20世纪20年代“第二代三K党”的扩张进行了比较。你认为人们会对这种比较感到震惊吗?

You compare the current embrace of violent populism by middle-class white America to the expansion of the second Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s. Do you think people will be shocked by that comparison?

许多读者可能会感到震惊,因为现代人的想象中,三K党仅仅与区域性的、低收入的仇恨团体有关,而非一场大规模的社会运动。然而,历史数据表明,20世纪20年代的第二代三K党是一个高度主流化、由中产阶级组成的组织,其驱动力是围绕美国身份认同的文化冲突。做出这种明确的类比,凸显了当正常的制度化群体感到其文化主导地位受到威胁时,他们是多么容易滑向系统性的不宽容。

关键观点:

Many readers will likely be shocked, because the modern imagination associates the Klan strictly with regional, low-income hate groups rather than a massive social movement. However, the historical data shows that the second KKK of the 1920s was a highly mainstream, middle-class organization driven by a cultural clash over American identity. Drawing this explicit parallel highlights how easily normal, institutionalized communities can slide into systemic intolerance when they feel their cultural dominance is threatened.

  1. 支持政治暴力的行为并非右翼势力的专属行为;左翼人士同样在推动这种暴力倾向的发展。

Do you think readers of the book will be surprised that defense of political violence is not solely the preserve of the right, but that people on the left also reinforce your thesis of violent populism?

  1. 呼吁使用政治暴力的声音其实来自政治光谱的两端(无论是左翼还是右翼)。例如,被指控参与暗杀特朗普的嫌疑人,以及那些公开宣扬使用暴力手段的人,都体现了这种暴力倾向的存在。

Yes, readers who expect a one-sided partisan critique will be surprised to see that the call for political violence comes from both sides of the aisle. [Confessed health care CEO assassin Luigi] Mangione and the recent [accused] Trump assassin at the April White House Correspondents’ Dinner reflect political violence from the left, and they are far from alone.

  1. 研究表明,暴力手段、攻击性的象征手法以及对政治对手的妖魔化行为在各个政治派别中都被广泛使用。这表明暴力民粹主义是一种系统性的社会问题,而非单纯的党派现象。

  2. 美国政治的当前过渡阶段究竟会走向民主的复兴,还是更深层次的政治崩溃,目前尚无定论。

Original CPOST surveys reveal that violent style, aggressive symbolism, and the demonization of political opponents are heavily utilized by figures across the entire political spectrum.

  1. 有希望克服暴力民粹主义吗?答案在于美国70%的民众对政治暴力的强烈反对态度——这是我们能够依靠的重要力量。

This multisided reality proves that violent populism is a systemic, societal failure rather than an isolated partisan phenomenon.

你的回答:是的,那些期待看到片面党派批评的读者可能会感到惊讶:事实上,呼吁使用政治暴力的声音确实来自政治光谱的两端。被指控参与暗杀特朗普的嫌疑人,以及那些公开宣扬使用暴力手段的人,都体现了这种暴力倾向的存在,而且他们远非个例。我的研究表明,暴力手段、攻击性的象征手法以及对政治对手的妖魔化行为在各个政治派别中都被广泛使用。这表明暴力民粹主义是一种系统性的社会问题,而非单纯的党派现象。

You say that it is not yet determined if the current transitional phase of American politics will “culminate in democratic renewal or deeper political breakdown.”Do you have a sense of when we might have an answer to this question? We need to lean into the “good news” in my book: that 70 percent of Americans abhor political violence. This is the large, untapped resource that we need to lean into. My book is essentially for the 70 percent and a call to action for what they can do—beyond voting.

关于美国政治的未来走向,目前尚无定论。不过,值得欣慰的是,70%的美国人强烈反对政治暴力——这是我们能够依靠的重要力量。我的这本书正是为这70%的民众而写的,旨在呼吁他们采取实际行动(而不仅仅是投票)。只有依靠他们,我们才能拯救我们的民主制度,避免美国治理体系出现更严重的崩溃。

The 70 percent are the heart of our democracy. Leaning into them is how we save our democracy and avoid a much deeper, systemic breakdown of American governance. What, if anything, gives you hope that violent populism can be overcome? Hope lies in the data that can give new active optimism to vast majorities of ordinary Americans on both the left and right that still share a fundamental desire for stability and governance.

希望在于那些能够为广大左右翼普通美国人带来全新积极乐观情绪的数据,他们依然有着对稳定和治理的基本渴望。通过认识到我们的敌人并非彼此,而是暴力本身常态化这一事实,我们可以审慎地选择克制策略,以重建我们至关重要的民主规范,并找到富有成效的新解决方案。

By recognizing that our enemies are not really each other, but the normalization of violence itself, we can deliberately choose strategies of restraint to rebuild our vital democratic norms—and find productive new solutions.