极左翼的洛杉矶市长竞选领跑者尼蒂娅·拉曼为自己亮相备受争议的网络主播哈桑·派克的节目辩护。周二晚，面对犹太听众的追问，她仍坚持用“种族灭绝”一词描述以色列在加沙的行动，引起一些犹太选民的警觉。
Nithya Raman, the far-left Los Angeles mayoral frontrunner, defended her appearance on controversial streamer Hasan Piker's program and stood by her use of the term "genocide" to describe Israel's actions in Gaza when pressed by a Jewish audience Tuesday night, raising alarm among some Jewish voters.
拉曼在数百名出席者参加的犹太社区市长论坛上，就以色列、反犹主义以及她过去对加沙战争发表的言论展开了一连串尖锐交锋。面对有关她为何亮相派克节目的追问，拉曼表示，候选人需要“到人们所在的地方与他们沟通”，并否认亮相其平台意味着她赞同他的观点。
Raman's appearance before hundreds of attendees at a Jewish community mayoral forum quickly turned into a series of pointed exchanges over Israel, antisemitism and her past comments on the war in Gaza. Pressed over her appearance on Piker's show, Raman said candidates need to "meet people where they're at" and rejected the suggestion that appearing on his platform signaled an endorsement of his views.
她还重申，自己曾用“种族灭绝”一词描述以色列在加沙的行动，并表示她依据的是一些未具名“专家”的说法，这些专家也使用过同样的术语。在论坛稍后的环节中，她为抵制、撤资和制裁（BDS）运动辩护，称其是“一种合法的和平抗议形式”。周二晚，拉曼与现任洛杉矶市长卡伦·巴斯共同出席了一场由多个犹太组织举办的候选人论坛。
在论坛上，她们就多个话题接受提问，但焦点大多落在反犹主义、公共安全、无家可归问题、以色列以及其他犹太社区特别关注的议题上。此次论坛是在11月3日选举前举行的。
She also reaffirmed her use of the word "genocide" to describe Israel's actions in Gaza, saying she relied on unnamed "experts" who have used the same terminology. Later in the forum, she defended the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement as "a legitimate form of peaceful protest." Both Raman and incumbent Mayor of Los Angeles Karen Bass attended a candidate forum hosted by several Jewish organizations Tuesday evening, during which they were questioned on a range of topics but largely about antisemitism, public safety, homelessness, Israel and other issues of particular concern to the Jewish community ahead of the Nov. 3 election.
“制止反犹主义”组织创始人兼执行主任利奥拉·雷兹告诉福克斯新闻数字网：“尼蒂娅·拉曼的言论应该让每一位洛杉矶犹太选民感到警惕。”她认为，“到人们所在的地方与他们沟通”不能成为为亮相派克节目辩护的理由。
"Nithya Raman's remarks should alarm every Jewish voter in Los Angeles," StopAntisemitism founder and Executive Director Liora Rez told Fox News Digital, arguing that "'meeting people where they're at' is not a defense" for appearing on Piker's program.
周三晚上的论坛主持人指出，许多听众认为拉曼出现在派克的节目中“极具伤害性”，并列举了这位主播此前关于犹太人的不当言论，以及他对哈马斯、真主党和基地组织等组织的赞扬之词。当被问及为何选择出席该节目，以及是否担心这会被视为对其观点的认同时，拉曼表示自己一贯反对反犹太主义，但她认为候选人应当借助各类平台去接触选民。
The Wednesday night forum's moderator noted that many in the audience viewed Raman's appearance on Piker's show as "deeply hurtful," citing the streamer's past remarks about Jews and praise for groups including Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda. Asked why she chose to appear and whether she worried it could be perceived as an endorsement of his views, Raman said she has consistently spoken out against antisemitism but believed candidates should engage voters across different platforms.
“我认为，作为谋求更高职位的民选代表，就必须主动去与选民对话，”拉曼说道，“即便与某些人的部分观点存在分歧，作为民选官员或竞选者，我们仍应主动与选民沟通，去到他们所在的地方与他们交流。”拉曼的这一解释与密歇根州参议院候选人阿卜杜勒·埃尔-赛义德为自己与派克同台辩护时提出的理由如出一辙——后者也认为候选人应当在选民常浏览的平台上与他们互动。
ABDUL EL-SAYED DISMISSES QUESTIONS ABOUT HASAN PIKER TIES ON 'FACE THE NATION,' PIVOTS TO GROCERIES "I do believe that as an elected representative who's seeking higher office, you have to go and speak to voters," Raman said. "I think it's important for us as elected officials and as people running for office to go and speak to them even when you disagree with parts of those individuals... and meet them where they're at." Raman's explanation echoes a rationale Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed has offered when defending his own appearances with Piker, arguing candidates should engage audiences on platforms where voters already are.
随后，主持人转而谈及拉曼对以色列-加沙冲突的整体立场。主持人指出，拉曼曾多次将以色列的行为称作“种族灭绝”，于是要求她解释这一术语的含义，并向那些认为这种表述极具煽动性的犹太选民作出说明。
DEM SENATE NOMINEE APOLOGIZES TO JEWISH VOTERS AFTER 'GENOCIDE' REMARK SPARKED BACKLASH The moderator then shifted to Raman's broader views on the Israel-Gaza war, noting that she had repeatedly described Israel's actions as "genocide" and asking her to define the term and address Jewish voters who viewed the language as deeply inflammatory.
拉曼承认，“‘种族灭绝’这个词极其沉重且令人痛心”，她也理解这一词汇的历史意义。但她坚称自己使用该词是因为其他专家也这么用，而且在目睹“医院遭到袭击”以及“儿童丧生”后，她觉得有必要发声。“我使用了这个词汇，虽然我并非这方面的专家，但我参考了众多国际及以色列的专家意见——他们都使用过这一表述。正是这些意见促使我在描述加沙地带发生的情况时采用了该词，”拉曼说道。
Raman acknowledged that "the word 'genocide' is a deeply painful word" and said she understood its historical significance, but maintained she used the term because other experts had done so and because she felt compelled to speak out after seeing "the targeting of hospitals" and "the deaths of children." "I have used that term and I'm not an expert on these issues, and so I have looked to experts on these issues — international experts, Israeli experts — who have used that language, and that is what guided me in using that term in describing what's happening in Gaza," Raman said.
不过，雷兹在接受福克斯新闻数字频道采访时指出，“这一指控并无事实依据”。他认为，“由哈马斯控制的当局所提供的伤亡数据往往并未区分平民与武装分子，因此无法证明存在蓄意消灭巴勒斯坦人民的行径。” 在周二晚上的论坛上，当被问及对“种族灭绝”这一说法的看法时，巴斯表达了截然不同的观点，并拒绝将其用于描述加沙战争。
But, in comments to Fox News Digital, Rez said "that charge is not supported by the facts," arguing "casualty figures supplied by Hamas-controlled authorities, often presented without distinguishing civilians from combatants, do not establish a deliberate campaign to destroy the Palestinian people." LA MAYORAL RACE HEADS TO NOVEMBER RUNOFF AS KAREN BASS FACES MAMDANI-STYLE SOCIALIST During the Tuesday night forum, Bass offered a sharply different view on the term and rejected its use in regard to the war in Gaza when pressed on the matter.
此外，当被问及自己与美国民主社会主义者组织的反以立场有何不同时——该组织洛杉矶分部曾公开支持她的市长竞选——拉曼为“抵制、撤资和制裁”运动辩护称其为“一种合法的和平抗议形式”。她同时强调，与以色列相关的问题并不属于她的市政施政纲领范畴，并列举了自己与该组织在其他议题上的分歧。
Meanwhile, when asked where she differed from the anti-Israel positions of the Democratic Socialists of America, whose Los Angeles chapter has endorsed her mayoral campaign, Raman defended the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, as "a legitimate form of peaceful protest" before arguing that Israel-related issues were not part of her municipal platform and pointing to disagreements she has had with DSA on other issues.
雷兹驳斥了拉曼将BDS运动称作“一种合法的和平抗议形式”的说法，指出该运动“是一种带有歧视性的运动，其目的就是将世界上唯一的犹太人国家孤立并试图将其消灭”。
Rez rejected Raman's characterization of BDS as "a legitimate form of peaceful protest," arguing the movement "is a discriminatory movement that singles out the world's only Jewish state for isolation and elimination."
洛杉矶当地活动家、两个孩子的母亲艾普丽尔·西尔弗曼在社交平台X上严厉批评了拉曼出席论坛的行为，认为这位市长竞选热门人选根本不懂“了解听众群体、察言观色”的重要性。
Local Los Angeles activist and Jewish mother of two, April Silverman, slammed Raman's appearance at the forum on X, arguing the mayoral frontrunner is not aware of "the concept of knowing your audience and reading the room."
播客主持人莎娜·迈尔森主持的节目名为《毫不掩饰的犹太人播客》。她表示：“尼西亚·拉曼在满是洛杉矶犹太人的会场上，根本无法伪装成不是反犹太复国主义的极端分子。”
ABDUL EL-SAYED PLAYS DOWN HASAN PIKER TIES AFTER STREAMER’S VIRAL ANTISEMITISM FIRESTORM "Nithya Raman couldn’t even pretend in front of a room full of Jewish Angelenos to be anything other than an antizionist radical," said Shana Meyerson, a podcast host who has a show called "The Unapologetically Jewish Podcast."
迈尔森还补充道：“尽管自己承认‘并非相关领域的专家’且无法准确定义‘种族灭绝’的含义，她却依然坚持自己的‘种族灭绝’指控。又一个民主党社会主义联盟的成员公然蔑视美国犹太人群体。”
"She also doubled down on her 'genocide' accusations despite admitting she 'isn’t an expert,' and could not define what genocide is," Meyerson added. "Another DSA jihadi laughing in the face of Jewish Americans."