约翰内斯堡：美国驻南非大使严厉批评了南非总统西里尔·拉马福萨。他在接受福克斯新闻数字频道采访时说道：“南非有一位拒绝谴责‘杀光布尔人！杀光农民！’这类煽动性言论的总统。”
JOHANNESBURG: The U.S. ambassador to South Africa has hit out at the country’s President, Cyril Ramaphosa, telling Fox News Digital, "You've got a president of South Africa who refuses to condemn an incitement to kill."
在近日接受福克斯新闻数字频道独家采访时，L·布伦特·博泽尔三世大使强烈回应了上周自己被南非外交部传唤并因“行为有违外交礼仪”而遭到批评一事。自他到任九个月以来，这已是第三次遭到南非方面的外交谴责。由于转达了特朗普总统对南非政策及言论的批评意见，博泽尔也遭到了南非方面的指责。博泽尔曾是福克斯新闻的撰稿人，也是美国最大的保守派媒体监督机构——媒体研究中心的创始人。
Ambassador L. Brent Bozell III was responding strongly, in an exclusive interview with Fox News Digital, to being summoned this past week to South Africa’s foreign ministry and criticized for ‘undiplomatic conduct." This is the third time the ambassador has received a démarche — a diplomatic rebuke — from Pretoria in the nine months since he arrived here. The ambassador has been slammed by South Africa for relaying President Trump’s condemnation of South African policies and statements. Bozell is a former Fox News contributor and founder of the largest conservative media watchdog, the Media Research Center.
特朗普政府以南非存在种族歧视及强制没收土地现象为由实施新的签证限制措施。过去16个月里，博泽尔一直竭力推动南非解决特朗普总统在白宫与拉马福萨总统激烈交锋时所提及的一系列问题。这些问题包括所谓的基于种族的歧视现象、针对农民的谋杀与酷刑指控、未经补偿便没收土地的计划，以及煽动针对少数族裔的暴力行为等。
TRUMP ADMIN IMPOSES NEW VISA RESTRICTIONS OVER ALLEGED RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, LAND SEIZURES IN SOUTH AFRICA He has repeatedly pushed for issues brought up by President Trump in a testy confrontation in the Oval Office with South Africa’s President Ramaphosa 16 months ago to be addressed. Among other points, these include alleged race-based discrimination, allegations of murder and torture of farmers, plans for uncompensated land seizures and the incitement of violence against minority groups.
博泽尔指出，特朗普政府提出的五项具体要求中，有三项至今未被南非采纳。在这些要求中，最为关键的一条便是特朗普总统要求拉马福萨制止民众高喊“杀光布尔人！杀光农民！”的口号。根据《韦氏词典》的定义，“布尔人”指的是“具有荷兰或胡格诺派血统的南非人”，即白人。拉马福萨则辩称自己无法制止民众喊出这一口号，因为南非最高法院已批准其使用。
The ambassador said three of the five specific ‘asks’ the Trump administration wants have been ignored by South Africa. High up the list of ‘asks’ is President Trump’s demand that President Ramaphosa stops people in South Africa from shouting "Kill the Boer! Kill the farmer!" A Boer is a white man, according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary. It defines it as "a South African of Dutch or Huguenot descent". Ramaphosa has claimed he can’t stop people chanting this slogan because it’s been cleared for use by the country’s supreme court.
博泽尔对福克斯新闻数字频道说道：“南非总统拒绝谴责那些煽动杀戮的言论。” 南非的非法移民问题引发的强烈反弹，其实反映了整个西方世界正在上演的政治博弈。他补充道：“现任政府宣称不会再为阿非利卡人聚居的农村地区提供任何援助；同时还要求矿业投资必须遵循基于种族的相关计划。他们甚至表示，不会允许外国投资像其他投资者那样顺利进入南非市场。”
Bozell told Fox News Digital, "You've got a president of South Africa who refuses to condemn an incitement to kill." SOUTH AFRICA’S ILLEGAL MIGRATION BACKLASH MIRRORS POLITICAL BATTLES ACROSS THE WEST He added, "You've got a government that has said it's not going to do any more for the Afrikaner rural community, and it's got a government that's saying no, your mining has to go through race-based programs. We're not going to allow your investments to go the way everyone else has been allowed to go". "Those were three strikes and you're out as far as we were concerned," Bozell said. "Ask 100% of the world if "kill the farmer!, kill the Boer" isn’t hate speech," he continued. "If that isn't hate speech, I don't know what hate speech is: inciting people to commit murder.
“在我们看来，这已经构成了三次严重违规，理应受到惩处，”博泽尔说道。
So the answer we've gotten is, well, the court said it isn't. To which our response is look, in the United States, the president can disagree with the court and does about every five minutes because that's what you do in a democracy when you disagree with something."
“问问全世界的人吧，‘杀光农民！杀光布尔人！’这样的口号难道不算仇恨言论吗？”他继续说道，“如果这都不算仇恨言论，那究竟什么才算呢？这分明就是在煽动人们去实施谋杀。而我们得到的回应却是：法院判定这不算仇恨言论。对此我们的回应是：在美国，总统完全可以不同意法院的裁决，而且这种情况每隔五分钟左右就会发生一次——在民主国家里，当对某项裁决持异议时就该这么做。”
TRUMP GETS MAJOR WIN AGAINST CHINA IN AFRICAN RARE EARTH MINERALS RACE Bozell added, "So, to say, well, you can't do it because the court said it's not, you know, that's poppycock. If President Ramaphosa, if he wants to, he can do it. It's just as simple as that." The ambassador pushed hard on the point, saying "How hard is it to say this chant, where some, where people do it, 50,000 people in the stadium jump up and down, pantomiming guns, shooting people, how hard is it to say, stop it? This is awful that anybody would be inciting people to kill."
“特朗普在非洲稀土资源争夺战中对中国取得重大胜利。”博泽尔补充道：“所以说，‘因为法院判定不算仇恨言论所以不能采取行动’这种说法纯属无稽之谈。如果拉马福萨总统愿意，他完全可以采取行动，道理就是这么简单。”
South Africa, analysts say, is drawing ever closer to Iran, Russia, China even Cuba. The African National Congress, the ANC, the party which rules the country in the so-called ‘government of national unity’, has hosted the terror group Hamas. This is very much on the administration’s radar.
这位大使极力强调这一点：“那些口号由人喊出后，体育场里五万名观众齐声附和，还模仿开枪的动作……要下令制止这种行为能有多难呢？居然有人公然煽动他人去杀人，这实在令人发指。”分析人士指出，如今南非正日益向伊朗、俄罗斯、中国乃至古巴靠拢。而执掌南非所谓“民族团结政府”的执政党——非洲人国民大会，还曾接待过恐怖组织哈马斯。
President Trump met with Bozell in Washington again recently, with the ambassador telling Fox News Digital the president’s thinking "perhaps most of all, he's concerned about how South Africa has been systematically leaving the non-alignment space and moving closer and closer to our adversaries." Referring to South Africa, the ambassador added, "There are people who are living in the glory days of the Soviet Union, and they want to go back to the good old days of communism. Why are they still working with Cuba?" Digging deeper, Bozell asked, "Why are they working with Iran and Hamas terror organizations? What's Russia doing for them? What's China doing for them? This is bad news when they're going in that direction. What we're saying is simply do what you've always done.
这件事非常受政府关注。特朗普总统最近在华盛顿再次会见了博泽尔，这位大使对福克斯新闻数字版表示，总统的想法是“或许最重要的是，他担心南非一直在系统性地离开不结盟阵营，越来越靠近我们的对手。”
Have a non-aligned with both sides. We'll live with that." US COUNTERS CHINA AS BEIJING’S ‘SHOCK WAVE’ HITS AFRICAN ECONOMIES The ambassador stressed that the U.S. wants to make dynamic business with South Africa on mining, particularly on critical or rare earth minerals.
提到南非时，这位大使补充道：“有些人还活在苏联的荣光岁月里，他们想回到共产主义的美好旧时光。他们为什么还在与古巴合作？”
He stated, "We're not going to do what the Chinese do. They come in, they take the ore, they take it to China, they benefit [from] it and they make a pile of money.
博泽尔深入追问：“他们为什么要与伊朗和哈马斯等恐怖组织合作？俄罗斯为他们做了什么？中国为他们做了什么？他们朝那个方向走是个坏消息。我们说的很简单，就是继续做你们一直做的事。与双方都保持不结盟。我们可以接受这一点。”
We're saying to South Africa, we'll come in, we'll do the mining, we'll do it right there in South Africa." He continued,"South Africa gets the money, not the Chinese. We bring in the technology that they could never have.
美国反制中国，因北京的“冲击波”冲击非洲经济 这位大使强调，美国希望在采矿领域与南非开展充满活力的业务，特别是关键或稀土矿产方面。他表示：“我们不会像中国人那样做。他们进来，把矿石拿走，运到中国，从中获利，大赚一笔。我们对南非说，我们会进来，我们会开采，就在那里，在南非开采。”
We've created hundreds of thousands of jobs. We're saying we could create more and more and more at a time when they desperately need it, but it will be good for us as well. This is the partnership we want." Elon Musk and his Starlink satellite internet company are one of many U.S. companies which want to enter South Africa. But in the telecommunications and mining fields, the government insists that 30% of foreign company ownership must be given to black local entrepreneurs.
他继续说道：“钱归南非，不归中国人。我们带入他们不可能拥有的技术。我们创造了数十万个就业岗位。我们说我们能创造更多、更多、更多的就业岗位，而这正是他们极其需要的时候，但这对我们也有好处。这就是我们想要的伙伴关系。” 埃隆·马斯克及其星链卫星互联网公司是众多想要进入南非的美国公司之一。但在电信和采矿领域，政府坚持要求外国公司30%的所有权必须让给黑人本地企业家。
Bozell says this is problematical for the U.S. "There are literally billions of dollars from American firms and American government investments ready to go into mining, but it's not going to go there so long as you have these race-based avenues they must go through. In telecom, Elon Musk has said he will put Starlink in 500 schools and pay for it in perpetuity if he's allowed to go this way. And they said, "No, we want 30% of your company. So yeah, of course it's hurting." On Friday, a senior official at South Africa’s Department of International Relations – the country’s foreign ministry – confirmed to Fox News Digital that they demarched Ambassador Bozell for a third time, adding, "This is a record.
博泽尔表示，这对美国来说是个棘手问题。“美国企业和美国政府有数十亿美元的投资准备投入采矿业，但只要你们坚持这些必须遵循的基于种族的途径，这些投资就不会到位。在电信领域，埃隆·马斯克表示，如果被允许按这种方式推进，他将在500所学校部署星链并永久承担费用。而他们却说：‘不，我们要你们公司30%的股份。’所以是的，当然这造成了损害。”
He was called in to explain his undiplomatic conduct. The issues related to the bilateral relations between the two countries are a subject of ongoing discussions. There is commitment from both sides to resolve the outstanding matters. South Africa values the relationship with the USA.
周五，南非国际关系与合作部——该国外交部——的一位高级官员向福克斯新闻数字频道证实，他们第三次召见博泽尔大使提出交涉，并补充道：“这是破纪录了。他被召见是为了解释其不合外交礼仪的行为。与两国双边关系相关的问题正在进行持续讨论。双方都承诺解决悬而未决的事项。南非重视与美国的关系。这是一个互利共赢的伙伴关系。”
It is a mutually beneficial partnership". Also, Friday, a State Department spokesperson told Fox News Digital, "We are not interested in diplomatic maneuvering, procedural delays, or dialogue for dialogue’s sake. The ball is now squarely in the Government of South Africa’s court to outline the relationship it wants with the United States and respond accordingly to President Trump’s executive order."
同样在周五，一位国务院发言人告诉福克斯新闻数字频道：“我们对外交斡旋、程序性拖延或为对话而对话不感兴趣。球现在完全在南非政府一边，由其勾勒想要与美国建立何种关系，并相应回应特朗普总统的行政命令。”
Still, Bozell looks to the future of the U.S. - South Africa relationship with guarded optimism. "Look, temperatures can go up, but I want their temperature to go down too.
尽管如此，博泽尔仍以谨慎乐观的态度展望美南关系的未来。“看，气温可能升高，但我也希望他们的气温能降下来。你知道，我们想要这个伙伴关系。我们想把这事解决好。这对南非有利，对美利坚合众国也有利。气温需要降下来，我们必须想办法解决。”
You know, we want this partnership. We want to figure this out. It's good for South Africa. It's good for the United States of America. Temperatures need to go down, and we got to figure it out."