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“你在否认你对我儿子所做的事”:机器人债务受害者的母亲被告知不符合赔偿资格‘You’re denying what you did to my son’: mother of robodebt victim told she is ineligible for compensation

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凯丝·马德威克的儿子贾拉德在2019年自杀身亡,当时他年仅22岁。此前,澳大利亚社会保障局通知他,他需偿还近2000澳元的债务。

Kath Madgwick’s son, Jarrad, was 22 when he died by suicide in 2019 after being told by Centrelink he owed nearly $2,000.

照片:由当事人提供。这位因“自动债务系统”而失去儿子的母亲表示,当联邦政府律师告知她无法获得此次4.75亿澳元集体诉讼和解金时,她感受到了“另一种形式的不公”。七年来,这位房地产经纪人一直在努力确保此类悲剧不再发生在其他人身上。

Photograph: Supplied The mother of a robodebt victim who ended his life says she is experiencing “injustice of another kind” after commonwealth lawyers said she would be excluded from an historic $475m class action settlement Seven years on, the real estate agent said she was still fighting to ensure it never happens to another person.

“我只希望他们能承认对我儿子所犯下的错事……承担起责任,并确保类似事件不再重演,”马德威克对《卫报》澳大利亚版说道。“只要他们不认错,我就不会放弃,而这也给我的生活带来了极大困扰。”去年,联邦政府同意向约45万名“自动债务系统”事件的受害者支付4.75亿澳元的赔偿金。

“I just want them to admit what they’ve done to my son … to start to take responsibility for their errors, and to ensure that this doesn’t happen to somebody else again,” Madgwick told Guardian Australia. “I won’t give up until such time as they do, and that creates havoc on my life.”The federal government last year agreed to pay an additional $475m in compensation to about 450,000 victims of the robodebt scandal.

然而马德威克称,上个月联邦政府律师告知她不符合领取资格,理由是她的儿子在生前及去世后均未收到正式的债务通知。负责发放福利补助的澳大利亚公共服务部也否认贾拉德所欠债务是通过该计划中使用的非法收入平均计算法产生的。尽管皇家调查委员会已详细记录了该计划对马德威克一家造成的伤害。

But Madgwick said commonwealth lawyers informed her last month she would not be eligible, because her son did not receive an official debt notice before or after his death. Services Australia, which administers support payments, also disputes Jarrad’s estimated debt was generated through the unlawful income averaging method used in the scheme. This is despite a royal commission detailing the impacts that the scheme has had on the Madgwick family.

此次4.75亿澳元的和解协议是在戈登法律事务所对2020年达成的原集体诉讼判决提出上诉后达成的。该上诉的核心依据是:2023年7月,皇家调查委员会发现了“极具说服力的新证据”,足以证明负责实施该计划的公务员存在“滥用职权”的行为。

Royal commission focus The $475m settlement followed an appeal by Gordon Legal of the original robodebt class action, settled in 2020. The appeal focused on the grounds that the robodebt royal commission had in July 2023 unearthed“damning new evidence” to support claims that the public servants who ran the scheme engaged in “malfeasance in public office”.

请订阅《澳大利亚突发新闻》。该赔偿计划将于12月起开始发放补偿金,适用范围包括那些遭受经济损失、精神痛苦或患上精神疾病及相关病症的计划受害者。在某些情况下,该计划也适用于与已故受害者关系密切的人员。

The settlement, which will begin paying out compensation from December, will extend to scheme victims who experienced economic loss, distress, or psychiatric illness or conditions. It will also extend, in some circumstances, to those with close personal relationships with victims who are now deceased.

马德威克原本预计自己儿子的案例会被纳入赔偿范围。事实上,皇家调查委员会在其最终报告中专门用了一页多篇幅来记述他的案例。

Madgwick expected her son’s situation would be captured. The royal commission itself dedicated more than a page of its final report to his case.

2019年5月28日,贾拉德收到了澳大利亚社会保障局发来的信件,要求他提供工资单信息,他当天便按要求提供了相关资料。当时这位年轻人因经济困难而回到家中,正在申请失业救济金。

On 28 May 2019, Jarrad had received a letter from Centrelink asking him for payslip details, which he provided later that day. The young adult had returned home due to financial distress and was applying for a Newstart allowance.

根据皇家调查委员会的报告,社会保障局在发现“贾拉德申报的收入数额与澳大利亚税务局记录的预扣税收入数据存在出入,由此推测可能存在多付情况”后便启动了审查程序。随后贾拉德通过MyGov门户网站得知:“审查程序正在进行中”,并且“已初步判定他需偿还2018年4月28日至2018年6月22日期间共计1,795.85澳元的款项。”

The department had began conducting a review after determining there was a “discrepancy between his declared earnings and ATO PAYG income amounts, indicating a potential overpayment”, according to the royal commission’s report Jarrad was informed through his MyGov portal that “the review would be processed” and that “a provisional debt outcome” had been determined in the amount of $1,795.85 for the period 28 April 2018 to 22 June 2018.

与社会保障局沟通两天后,贾拉德告诉母亲,由于存在这笔债务,他觉得自己恐怕无法拿到失业救济金。当晚,他便自杀身亡。

Two days later after speaking with Centrelink, Jarrad told his mother he didn’t believe he would receive his Newstart allowance because of the debt. He died by suicide that evening.

贾拉德得知自己可能欠下社会保障局债务这一情况,正是导致其自杀的“诱因”。

the way Jarrad was informed about a potential debt with Centrelink was a “precipitating factor” in his death.

贾拉德去世后,马德威克联系了社会保障局并告知对方儿子的死讯。根据依据信息自由法公开的内部客户记录显示,这笔债务于2019年6月3日——即贾拉德去世四天后——被登记在案,并于次日“永久予以注销”。

After his death, Madgwick spoke to Centrelink to inform them of Jarrad’s death. The debt was raised on 3 June 2019 – four days after his death – and “permanently written off” on 4 June 2019, according to an internal customer record released under freedom of information laws.

马德威克称,联邦政府告知她,由于贾拉德从未收到过正式的债务通知——除了通过MyGov门户网站获得的初步估算金额外——他不符合获得赔偿的资格。

Madgwick said she had been told by the commonwealth that because Jarrad never received an official debt notice – apart from the provisional estimate through the MyGov portal – they would not be eligible for compensation.

澳大利亚服务局作出回应 澳大利亚服务局的一位发言人表示,该机构认可皇家委员会关于贾拉德“个人处境以及‘自动债务系统’对个人、家庭及弱势群体产生的深远影响”的调查结论。

Services Australia responds A spokesperson for Services Australia said the agency acknowledged the royal commission’s findings about Jarrad’s “circumstances and the profound impact of the robodebt scheme on individuals, families and vulnerable people”.

不过,该机构否认贾拉德的初步债务金额是通过收入平均值计算得出的。

However, it disputed that his provisional debt outcome was calculated using income averaging.

“‘自动债务系统’因采用收入平均值来核算债务而被认定为违法。无论依据哪项赔偿协议,判定当事人是否符合资格的关键标准就是其债务是否涉及收入平均值计算,”该发言人说道。

“The robodebt scheme was found unlawful due to the use of income averaging in raising debts. The key basis for eligibility under both settlements is whether the person’s debt involved income averaging,” the spokesperson said.

“贾拉德的初步债务金额计算并未采用收入平均值。” 皇家委员会的报告指出,贾拉德的初步债务通知是在他上传工资单后计算得出的。然而,该机构对贾拉德可能被多付款项的审查,恰恰是由基于税务局数据的收入平均值计算方式引发的。

“Mr Madgwick’s provisional debt outcome did not involve income averaging.”The royal commission’s report found Jarrad’s provisional debt notice was calculated after he uploaded his payslips. However, the agency’s review into potential overpayments to Jarrad was triggered by the income averaging method using tax office data.

澳大利亚服务局的发言人还表示,如今该机构已意识到有关潜在债务的通知“会给人们带来困扰,尤其是弱势群体”。

The spokesperson for Services Australia said it now recognised communication about potential debts “cause distress, particularly for vulnerable customers”.

“自2019年起,澳大利亚服务局便调整了向客户传达债务及审查相关信息的方式,”该发言人说道。

“Since 2019, Services Australia has changed how it communicates with customers about debts and reviews,” the spokesperson said.

“如今,我们会通过更清晰的在线信息来帮助那些被多付款项的客户;为弱势群体提供更完善的支持渠道;同时也会为那些情况复杂、需要额外帮助的人提供更多专业社会工作援助。” 马德威克称,这场持续了七年的纠纷仍在影响她的心理健康,但她发誓会继续为正义而斗争。

“We now assist customers who’ve been overpaid with clearer information online, strengthened support pathways for vulnerable people and increased access to specialist social work assistance for those with situations requiring extra help.”Madgwick said the seven-year saga continues to affect her mental health, but has vowed to continue fighting for justice.

“当他们宣称将我排除在赔偿范围之外时,在我看来这就是在否认他们对我儿子所犯下的过错,”她说道。“我的儿子是无辜的。他失去了生命。我也失去了他。”

“When they say that they’ve cut me out of [the settlement], it says to me you’re denying what you did to my son,” she said. “My son was innocent. He’s lost his life. I’ve lost him.”