特朗普总统本周接待了人工智能领域的众多大佬——部分原因是为了宣布美国政府不再称其为人工智能。现在它被称为智能。
President Donald Trump hosted many of the biggest names in artificial intelligence this week — in part to announce that the U.S. government isn’t calling it artificial intelligence anymore. Now it’s intelligence.
在 TechCrunch 的 Equity 播客最新一期中，Kirsten Korosec、Sean O'Kane 和我讨论了这次会议背后的动机及其可能对 AI 行业产生的影响。我们都相当怀疑高管们签署的《前沿责任联合承诺》会有多大作用，特别是正如 Sean 所指出的——从法律角度来看，它“极具非约束力”。（相反，特朗普表示他认为这具有“道德约束力”。）
On the latest episode of TechCrunch’s Equity podcast, Kirsten Korosec, Sean O’Kane, and I discussed the motivation behind the meeting and what effect it might have on the AI industry. We were all pretty skeptical that the “Joint Commitment on Frontier Responsibilities” that the executives signed will amount to much, especially since — as Sean noted — it’s “deeply non-binding,” at least from a legal prospective. (Instead, Trump said he considers it “morally binding.”)
Kirsten 认为，会议的真正意义可能在于“围绕 AI 的一次重塑品牌努力”。（这一努力在周末继续，特朗普宣布成立新的超级智能部队。）对她而言，核心信息是：“AI 将毁灭我们，它很可怕，它将夺走工作——但超级智能不会。” 请继续阅读我们对话的预览，内容经过编辑以保持简洁清晰。
Kirsten suggested that the meeting’s real significance may have been as “a rebranding effort around AI.” (An effort that continued this weekend with Trump’s announcement of a new Super Intelligence Force.) For her, the big message was, “AI is going to kill us, it’s scary, it is going to take jobs — but super intelligence is not.”Keep reading for a preview of our conversation, edited for length and clarity.
Anthony Ha：根据美国总统的命令，官方规定不再称为人工智能，而是超级智能。我们上周就讨论过这个，因为这是[特朗普]一直在暗示的事——他不搞暗示，他一直在这么称呼有一阵子了。但现在已签署行政令。如果你是美国官方代表，你应该说超级智能，而不是人工智能。
Anthony Ha: Officially, by order of the president of the United States, it’s not artificial intelligence anymore, it’s super intelligence. We were talking about this last week, because this is something [Trump has] been hinting at — he doesn’t do hints, he’s been [it] for a while. But now it’s signed into executive order. If you’re an official U.S. representative, you are supposed to say super intelligence, not artificial intelligence.
这也是此次关于 AI 安全的更广泛声明的一部分，我认为这既关乎所宣布的协议本身，也关乎该协议达成这一事实本身。事情似乎进展得相当迅速，因为就在两周前、一周前，特朗普总统还在说：“我们不需要这些，我们要在 AI 领域领先，不能以任何方式限制它，不需要任何监管，任何说 AI 有危险的人本质上都是中共或民主党安插的人。”然而本周早些时候，所有这些 AI 首席执行官却聚在一起与他签署了这项协议。
And this was also part of this broader announcement around AI safety, which I think is both interesting for this pact that was announced, but also the fact that it happened at all. It seemed to have come together fairly quickly, because just two weeks ago, a week ago, President Trump was saying, “We don’t need any of this, we need to lead in AI, we can’t constrain it in any way, we don’t need any regulation, anyone who’s saying that there’s any danger from AI is essentially a Chinese or Democratic plant.”And yet all these AI CEOs got together with him earlier this week and signed this pact.
Kirsten Korosec：在此之前，我们应该指出，不仅存在对监管的抵制，我们还可以讨论这项行政命令是否真的涉及监管——我会说没有，那里面有点“表演”成分——但重要的是，就在几天前，Anthropic 还在“冷宫”里，如果你愿意这么称呼的话，就特朗普总统背后发生的事情而言。
Kirsten Korosec: Leading up to that, we should say, not only was there pushback on regulation, and we can talk about whether this executive order even does any of that — I would say no, there’s a little bit of theater there — but the important and interesting thing is that just days ago, Anthropic was really in the doghouse, if you will, in terms of what was happening behind the scenes with President Trump.
这一切都在 Anthropic 首席执行官 Dario Amodei 被邀请参加晚上 10 点的晚宴后发生了改变。他进行了这次会面，随后几天我们就有了这场午餐会，而在午餐会上，几乎所有现存主要科技公司的权力掮客都到场了。马克·扎克伯格在场，杰夫·贝佐斯在场，埃隆·马斯克在场，Dario 当然也在场，他们全都在。
That all changed when [Anthropic CEO] Dario Amodei was invited to a 10 p.m. dinner. He had this sit-down, and then just days later, we had this luncheon, and at this luncheon, we have pretty much every tech power broker from every major tech company that exists. So Mark Zuckerberg was there, Jeff Bezos was there, Elon Musk was there, Dario of course was there, they were all there.
我想知道你们中有没有人看了之后的新闻发布会，那场发布会产生了大量梗图，因为把一群科技 CEO 凑在一起时发生了一些有趣、好笑的行为。
I’m wondering if any of you watched the press conference that happened afterwards, which there’s been many, many memes about, because of the interesting, funny behavior when you bring a bunch of tech CEOs together.
但我想问你们两位的更大问题是：这一切意味着什么？它真的意味着什么吗？
But I guess my bigger question for both of you is: What does this all mean? And does it mean anything?
Sean O’Kane：你有多少时间？首先，当然，他们吃了顿饭，特朗普和达里奥。如果你读了《时代》杂志刚做的那个特朗普专访，你对他的了解程度和我一样——也就是完全不知道他知不知道这顿饭甚至要发生，这是一种奇怪的现实，但我们就身处其中。
Sean O’Kane: How much time do you have? First off, sure, they had dinner, Trump and Dario. If you read the Time magazine interview that Trump just did, your guess is as good as mine as to how informed he was that that dinner was even going to be happening, which is a strange reality to live in, but it’s just the one we inhabit.
还有一件事让我怀疑——意料之中——政府和Anthropic的关系到底修复得怎么样，那就是：尽管显然有人在试图把这两方凑到一起，但国防部依然非常坚持认为Anthropic很烂、很“觉醒”，还是国家安全风险。埃米尔·迈克尔似乎隔三差五就在X上抨击Anthropic。我觉得尽管达里奥出席了这个活动，双方之间仍存隔阂。
I will also say one other thing that makes me skeptical — surprise, surprise — of how repaired the relationship is between the administration and Anthropic, is that for as much as there are clearly people trying to put those two groups together, the Defense Department is still very adamant that Anthropic is terrible and woke and and a national security risk. Emil Michael goes off on Anthropic every other day on X, it seems. I think there’s still some distance there despite Dario showing up to this thing.
至于那份协议以及诸如此类，说真的，他们在大家签署的协议上把“United States”拼错了。而且这东西根本就没有约束力。我是说，完全是自愿的。我最喜欢的一点是，特朗普把它描述为所谓“道德上有约束力”，这层抽象和术语我还是头一回听说。
As far as the agreement and all of that, let’s be real, they misspelled the United States on the agreement that they all signed. It is also just deeply non-binding. I mean, it is completely voluntary. I think my favorite aspect about it was that Trump described it as quote “morally binding,” which is just a level of abstraction and terminology that I’ve never heard of before.
Anthony：就Anthropic和特朗普政府的关系而言，此前有大量报道，尤其是在国防部那场大冲突期间，白宫不同部门对Anthropic的态度截然不同。财长似乎很欣赏，而国防部——绝对不是粉丝，或者至少对Anthropic试图施加的技术使用条件很不满。
Anthony: In terms of Anthropic and their relationship with the Trump administration, there’s been a sort of a lot of reporting, especially during that big blow up with the Defense Department, that different parts of the White House had different relationships with Anthropic. The Treasury Secretary seemed to be a big fan, whereas the Defense Department — definitely not big fans, or at least unhappy with some of the conditions that Anthropic were trying to put on the use of their technology.
从这个角度看，感觉什么都没变。白宫里有人想用Anthropic的技术，想让他们参与这些决策，也有人真的、真的、真的、真的不想。
In that sense, it feels like nothing has necessarily changed. There are people in the White House who want to use Anthropic’s technology, want them involved in these decisions, and others who really, really, really, really don’t.
就协议本身而言，似乎并无太大实质意义。有意义的仅在于双方认为这值得一做。从他们把“United States”拼错来看，似乎是匆忙拼凑而成的。但即便我不认为协议本身会带来任何重大变化，这种姿态的必要性本身似乎颇具意义。
In terms of the agreement, it seems not super meaningful. What is meaningful is just the fact that they felt that this was something worth doing. As indicated by the fact that they misspelled United States, it seemed like they rushed to put all of this together. [But] the fact that this kind of gesture was needed seems significant, even if I don’t think the agreement itself is going to lead to any major changes.
克尔斯滕：我确实认为发生了一件重要的事。对我来说，这才是重点，即围绕 AI 进行的一场重塑品牌行动。“AI 会毁灭我们，它很可怕，它会抢走工作，但超级智能不会。”这不是我的个人观点。对我来说，这就是传递出的信息。
Kirsten: I do think that there was one important thing that happened. And to me, this is the point of it, which was a rebranding exercise around AI. “AI is going to kill us, it’s scary, it is going to take jobs, but super intelligence is not.”This isn’t my personal belief. To me, that was the message.