悉尼，10月6日电：澳大利亚国家广播机构周二拒绝了这样一种观点，即人工智能公司要达成许可协议以获取其内容过于困难，并表示科技巨头很可能已经“抓取”了其输出内容用于模型训练。
SYDNEY, Oct 6 : The Australian national broadcaster rejected a suggestion on Tuesday that it was too hard for AI companies to strike licencing deals to access its content and said the tech giants had probably already "scraped" its output for model training.
在ChatGPT制造商OpenAI和Claude制造商Anthropic呼吁放宽澳大利亚版权法以便获取国内生产内容后，澳大利亚广播公司（ABC）表示现行法律已足够适用。
After ChatGPT maker OpenAI and Claude maker Anthropic called for relaxing of Australian copyright laws to let them access domestically produced content, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) said the current laws were fit for purpose.
“版权制度完全足以管理人工智能业务，”澳广公司内容与法律运营主管凯特·吉尔克里斯特在议会对人工智能的调查中表示。
"The copyright system is completely adequate to manage the business of AI," ABC head of content and legal operations Kate Gilchrist told a parliamentary inquiry into AI.
“人工智能可以与权利持有者进行谈判，以获取他们所需的相关许可，”她说。
"AI can engage in negotiations with rightsholders for the relevant licences that they need," she said.
媒体报道称，澳大利亚政府正在考虑为人工智能公司设立“退出选择”条款，实际上赋予人工智能公司获取内容的权利，除非权利持有者提出异议，但吉尔克里斯特表示，这“将负担强加给了权利持有者”。
Media reports have said the Australian government was considering an "opt out" clause for AI companies, effectively giving the AI companies access to content unless a rightsholder objects, but that "places the burden on rightsholders", said Gilchrist.
“我们无法搜遍互联网，确保我们在所有那些网站上都选择了退出。这根本行不通，”她说。
"We cannot scour the internet and ensure that we are opting out on all those sites. It simply does not work," she said.
当被问及澳广公司是否认为人工智能公司在未付费的情况下使用了其内容时，吉尔克里斯特表示：“我认为我们没有确凿证据证明我们被抓取过，但我预计这种可能性很大。”当被问及这家政府资助的独立广播机构是否会用人工智能生成的替代品取代新闻播音员时，澳广公司政策与监管事务高级主管大卫·萨顿表示，公司“没有取代人类的计划”。
When asked if the ABC believed AI companies had used its content without paying for it, Gilchrist said, "I do not think we have conclusive evidence that we have been scraped but I expect that there is a likely possibility that we have been." Asked if the government-funded, independent broadcaster would replace newsreaders with AI-produced alternatives, ABC senior executive for policy and regulatory affairs David Sutton said the company had "no plan to replace humans".
“我可以设想在节目制作的特定情境下可能需要这样做。但从根本上说，没有重新创造我们的新闻播音员或类似事物的计划，”他说。
"I can envisage particular contexts in programme making where that might be necessary. But fundamentally, there's no plan to recreate our newsreaders or anything like that," he said.
人工智能联合特别委员会是澳大利亚州和联邦层面至少四个针对该技术调查之一。
The Joint Select Committee on Artificial Intelligence is one of at least four Australian state and federal inquiries into the technology.
OpenAI和Anthropic的代表定于周二晚些时候出席同一听证会。
Representatives of OpenAI and Anthropic are scheduled to appear at the same inquiry later on Tuesday.