布莱恩·约翰逊是长寿运动的代言人，他相信自己可能永远不会死。他在周一的一次独家采访中告诉《Axios Show》，他最近宣布自己患有无法治愈的自身免疫性疾病，他的批评者为此欢呼。
Bryan Johnson the face of the longevity movement who believes he may never die, announced recently that he had an incurable autoimmune disease — and his critics cheered, he told "The Axios Show" in an exclusive interview Monday. • "I mean, I think people really want me to die. Now I get it. It's funny.
“我的意思是，我认为人们真的希望我死。现在我明白了，很有趣.这很讽刺。我按了很多人们不喜欢的按钮，”他说。
It's ironic. I push a lot of buttons that people don't like," he said. The big picture
大局 正如约翰逊本人所承认的那样，这位“不死”运动的创始人看到人们庆祝他的诊断，这是一种讽刺。但约翰逊认为他的诊断结果是他促进长寿使命的火箭燃料，而不是一次挫折。
As Johnson himself acknowledged, there's an irony in the founder of the "Don't Die" movement watching people celebrate his diagnosis. But Johnson sees his diagnosis as rocket fuel for his mission to promote longevity, rather than a setback.
快速赶上： 49岁的约翰逊患有自身免疫性肝炎（AIG），这是一种慢性疾病，免疫系统会攻击胃内膜的健康细胞。
Catch up quick: Johnson, 49, has autoimmune gastritis (AIG), a chronic condition in which the immune system attacks healthy cells in the stomach lining.
- 约翰逊在七月宣布诊断结果后表示，“世界各地都充满了欢乐”。
• Johnson said "there was joy all around the world" after he announced his diagnosis in July.
- 他每年花费数百万美元用于极端健康干预，为包括YouTube在内的平台上的在线粉丝记录了这些实验，这些粉丝已激增至约800万。
• He spends millions of dollars a year on extreme health interventions, documenting the experiments for an online following that has ballooned to roughly 8 million across platforms including YouTube.
- 当被问及他的任何干预措施是否会导致他的AIG诊断时，他说：“不。我在21岁时被诊断出患有甲状腺功能减退症。甲状腺和胃在免疫学上联系非常密切。我可能已经拥有这个东西大约30年了。"
• When asked if any of his interventions could have fueled his AIG diagnosis, he said: "No. I got diagnosed with hypothyroidism when I was 21 years old. The thyroid and the stomach are very closely linked in immunology.
阴谋 约翰逊认为这一诊断结果只是对衰老的又一次测试，这似乎可能会破坏他对抗衰老的运动。
I probably have had this thing for about 30 years." The intrigue Johnson views the diagnosis, which might appear to undermine his campaign against aging, as just another test of it.
- 在他看来，他所做的不仅仅是控制疾病的努力可以帮助证明他的野心的有效性。
• In his view, his efforts to do more than manage the disease can help prove the efficacy of his ambitions. • "I like the challenge.
- “我喜欢挑战。我准备好了。我认为现在是个好时机。我会在某个时候被诊断出患有某种疾病。为什么不是这个？"
I'm up for it. I think it's good timing. I'm going to get diagnosed with something at some point.
摩擦点：约翰逊自称是“世界上最有分寸的人”，他每年在个人健康和长寿治疗上花费超过200万美元。他家里有一个完整的医疗礼宾团队和一个临时医生办公室。
Why not this?" Friction point: Johnson, who calls himself the "most measured person in the world," spends over $2 million a year on his personal health and longevity treatments. He has an entire medical concierge team and a makeshift doctor's office in his home.
- 专家表示，这种疾病的原因尚不清楚，约翰逊提出的扭转这种疾病的努力是实验性的。
• Experts say the cause of the disease is unknown, and that Johnson's proposed effort to reverse it is experimental.
缩小：约翰逊创立了Braintree公司，赚了一大笔钱，Braintree收购了Venmo，后来以8亿美元的价格出售给PayPal。
Zoom out: Johnson made his fortune founding Braintree, which bought Venmo and was later sold to PayPal for $800 million.
- 他现在经营着包括Blueprint和Immortals在内的长寿企业，以及神经技术公司Kernust和风险基金OS Fund。
• He now runs longevity businesses including Blueprint and Immortals, alongside neurotechnology company Kernel and venture fund OS Fund.
字里行间：对密集健康追踪的一个常见批评是，更多的检测可以发现更多的异常情况，但并非所有异常情况都有意义。
Between the lines: One common critique of intensive health tracking is that more testing can uncover more abnormalities, not all of them meaningful.
- 医生警告说，假阳性和偶然发现可能会引发后续检测和治疗的“连锁反应”，从而带来额外的成本、压力，在某些情况下还会带来伤害。
• Doctors warn that false positives and incidental findings can trigger a "cascade" of follow-up tests and treatments that can bring added cost, stress, and in some cases, harm. Johnson is a full-throated fan
约翰逊是一个十足的粉丝 “我个人很感激信息。我想知道，因为当你尽早发现问题时，你更有可能解决它们。"
"I personally appreciate information. I want to know because when you find things early, you're much more likely to be able to address them."
- 他还表示，他的过程并不让他上瘾，并补充说“世界上最大的瘾就是赚钱。"
• He also said his process doesn't feel addictive to him, adding that "the biggest addiction in the world is to make money."
底线：长寿运动的面孔将他的公共卫生记录受到的打击视为他追求永生的另一项潜在成就。
The bottom line: The face of the longevity movement sees the hit to his public health record as another potential achievement in his quest to live forever.