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菲尔·柯林斯称特朗普“把一切都视为交易”:“这是个非常可怕的时期”Phil Collins says Trump ‘sees everything as a deal’: ‘Very scary time’

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菲尔·柯林斯称特朗普‘把一切都视为交易’:‘这是个非常可怕的时期’菲尔·柯林斯抨击特朗普总统“令人厌恶”,称这位三军统帅“像商人一样玩弄政治”,尽管处理美国及国际关系“根本不是真正的商业行为”。

Phil Collins says Trump ‘sees everything as a deal’: ‘Very scary time’

柯林斯在皮尔斯·摩根的节目《皮尔斯·摩根无剪辑》(Piers Morgan Uncensored)中最近接受采访时说:“这是外交。”这位《今夜在空气中》(In the Air Tonight)的演唱者表示:“有时候你可能会输,但依然能赢。”

Phil Collins is knocking President Trump as “nasty,” saying that the commander in chief “plays politics like a businessman,” even though handling U.S. and international relations isn’t “really a business at all.”“It’s diplomacy,” Collins said in a recent interview on “Piers Morgan Uncensored.”

但柯林斯表示,这位总统“把一切都视为交易——无论输赢——我认为这是一个非常可怕的时期。”这位前创世纪乐队(Genesis)主唱说:“他的整个举止都很不吸引人。”

“Sometimes you can lose, but still come out winning,” the “In the Air Tonight” singer said. But the president, Collins said, “Sees everything as a deal — won or lost — and I think it’s a very scary time.”

这位75岁的英国表演者说:“从历史上看,总统们都是雄辩而优雅的。即使你不同意他们的观点,你仍然会尊重他们。”

“His whole manner is unattractive,” the former Genesis frontman said.

“但当像特朗普这样令人厌恶的人出现时,你最终会对他产生反感,”柯林斯告诉主持人皮尔斯·摩根。柯林斯说:“鉴于正在发生的事情,这非常可怕。”

“Historically, presidents have been eloquent and elegant. You feel like even if you don’t agree with them, you still respect them,” the 75-year-old English performer said. “But when someone like Trump is as nasty as he is, you end up feeling dislike for him,” Collins told host Piers Morgan.

柯林斯表示:“如果他试图推翻两届任期限制——美国总统只能担任两届——我不会感到惊讶。”他指的是宪法第22修正案,该修正案禁止总统担任超过两届。

“It’s very scary with what’s happening,” Collins said. “It wouldn’t surprise me if if he just tries to overrule the two-term deal — American presidents can only serve two terms,” Collins said in a reference to the Constitution’s 22nd Amendment barring a president from serving more than two terms.

特朗普多次暗示可能寻求第三个任期,但也承认宪法“相当明确”地规定他不能再次参选。

Trump has repeatedly teased the idea of launching a third term bid, but has also acknowledged that the Constitution is “pretty clear” that he is not allowed to run again.

摩根回应道:“我认为他不会那样做。我认为体制不会允许他这样做。”

“I don’t think he will do that. I don’t think the system would let him,” Morgan replied.

摩根表示他认识特朗普“很久了”,并补充说:“我学到的一件事就是永远不要对他感到惊讶,因为没有什么事情是令人惊讶的。换句话说,他基本上可以做任何事。”这位格莱美奖得主在谈到特朗普寻求第三个任期时表示:“我认为他不会被允许那样做。我认为即使是他的政党,甚至他自己的追随者,也会反对这一建议。”

Saying he’s known Trump a “long time,” Morgan added, “The one thing I’ve learned is never to be surprised by him because nothing is surprising. In other words, he can basically do anything.”“I don’t think he would be allowed to do that. I think even his own party, even his own followers, would disagree with that suggestion,” the Grammy Award winner said of Trump seeking a third term.