加拿大外国影响力监管机构负责人安东·博格曼表示，由于艾伯塔省分离主义倡导者与美国政府官员的会面发生在新出台的外国影响力登记制度生效之前，这些会面无需被列入登记范围。
Meetings between advocates of Alberta separation and American government officials don't have to be included in Canada's new foreign influence registry because they took place before the registry went into effect, says Canada's foreign influence watchdog.
周二，博格曼在议会委员会作证后对记者说道，该法律对他的职责范围有着明确规定。
Speaking to reporters after appearing before a parliamentary committee on Tuesday, Anton Boegman said the law is very specific about what his mandate covers and what it doesn't.
“该法律于8月4日才正式生效，”博格曼说，“因此，此前发生的一些事件目前并不在监管范围内。不过我们当然会重点关注当前正在发生的情况。”10月3日，《环球邮报》报道称，就在今年4月，部分支持艾伯塔省独立的人士仍与美国方面的机构在美国边境两侧举行会面。
"The law just came into force on Aug. 4," Boegman said. "So, there are things that may have taken place previously that are not applicable now. But, certainly, we're focused on what's taking place right now." On Oct. 3, the Globe and Mail reported that as recently as April, some of those campaigning for Alberta independence had met on both sides of the border with U.S. entities.
此前CBC新闻也曾报道，去年部分此类会面是在位于华盛顿特区的美国国务院办公场所进行的。
CBC News previously reported that some of those meetings took place in U.S. State Department offices in Washington, D.C., last year.
博格曼称，他已联系了60多个参与艾伯塔省独立公投相关事务的个人或团体，其中包括美国国务院确认曾与其会面的“艾伯塔繁荣计划”组织。
Boegman said he has reached out to more than 60 people or groups involved in the Alberta referendum, including the Alberta Prosperity Project, one of the groups that the State Department confirmed it had met with.
“这些人都是这场辩论的参与者，”他说，“我们希望确保他们了解我国法律的相关规定，以便日后若确实涉及相关情况也能照章行事。”不过博格曼也强调，他尚未联系过任何美国人。
"These are people who are engaged in the debate," he said. "We wanted to make sure that they were aware of what the requirements are of our law, so if they did meet those, that they could then." However, Boegman said he has not reached out to any Americans.
博格曼指出，根据他的职责范围，任何试图代表外国政府或外国机构影响加拿大政治的个人都必须履行登记义务；但如果是受外国智库或基金会资助以从事政治影响活动，则不在他的监管范畴之内。
Boegman said under his mandate, individuals attempting to influence Canadian politics on behalf of a foreign government or foreign government entity have to.
“我在履行自己的职责，”他说，“在这个领域还有其他机构需要发挥作用。加拿大安全情报局要发挥作用，皇家骑警也要发挥作用，[加拿大全球事务部]同样要发挥作用。也就是说，还有许多其他机构共同参与到应对各类问题的行动中。”这位外国影响力事务专员表示，新设立的机构无法有效防范外国干预行为。该专员还有可能监督艾伯塔省的分离公投。
However, if someone is being paid by a foreign think-tank or foundation to influence, it isn't covered under his mandate. "I administer my mandate," he said. "There are other agencies that have roles to play in this space. CSIS has a role to play. RCMP has a role to play. [Global Affairs Canada] has a role to play. So there's other agencies that are part of the collective response to issues."
此前担任不列颠哥伦比亚省选举事务主管的博格曼，即将成为加拿大首位负责监管外国影响力事务的官员。这意味着，据报道曾在魁北克省选举期间试图促成魁北克党上台执政的美国智库“国防分析与研究公司”，将不会被纳入联邦外国影响力监管法的管辖范围，因为它并非外国政府实体。
New foreign influence office won't prevent foreign interference, commissioner says Foreign influence commissioner could monitor an Alberta referendum on separation Former B.C. chief electoral officer poised to become Canada's first foreign influence watchdog That means that the Defense Analyses and Research Corporation, the U.S. think-tank that was reported during the Quebec election to have tried to get a Parti Québécois government elected, would not be covered under the federal foreign influence law because it is not a foreign government entity.
博格曼无法说明其办公室是否已收到任何代表外国政府试图影响艾伯塔省公投的人员的注册申请，也无法确定这些申请是否会在10月19日艾伯塔省选民投票前被录入外国影响力登记册。
Boegman could not say if his office has received registrations from anyone working on behalf of a foreign government to influence the Alberta referendum or whether any registrations his office may have received would be included in the foreign influence registry before Albertans vote on Oct. 19.
“我尚未查阅相关信息，”他说，“本周我会听取相关汇报。”此前，在众议院程序与议院事务委员会作证时，博格曼透露：截至10月4日的截止日期，其办公室仅收到30份关于既有相关安排的注册申请；而公共安全部原本预计，会有2,422名个人或组织符合必须进行外国影响力活动注册的条件。任何与外国主体达成的新安排都必须在14天内完成注册。
"I have not yet looked at that information," he said. "I'm getting briefed on it this week." Earlier, during testimony before the House of Commons procedures and House affairs committee, Boegman revealed that his office received only 30 submissions by the Oct. 4 deadline to pre-existing arrangements, despite an estimate by the Public Safety Department that 2,422 individuals or organizations would meet the criteria for having to foreign influence activities. New arrangements with foreign principals must beed within 14 days.
该登记制度实施两个月后，公开登记册上仅出现了两条记录。还有一条曾短暂公布后又被撤下的记录，最终也会重新录入。
Two months after the registry came into effect, only two entries appear in the public registry. A third, that was briefly published and withdrawn, will eventually be published again.
保守党议员迈克尔·库珀抓住这一数据大做文章，指出目前收到的注册申请数量仅相当于公共安全部原先预估值的一小部分。“这一结果显然难以让人产生信心，”他说道。
Conservative MP Michael Cooper seized on the number, pointing out that the registrations received to date is a small fraction of what Public Safety had estimated. "It certainly doesn't exactly instill confidence," he said.
库珀还就博格曼办公室发生的两起隐私信息泄露事件，以及该登记系统反复出现的技术故障向对方发难。尽管公共安全部已拨款2940万美元用于系统的信息化建设，问题却依然层出不穷。
Cooper also grilled Boegman about two privacy breaches by his office and repeated technical problems with the registry, despite $29.4 million earmarked by Public Safety for its IT systems.
博格曼解释称，该系统最初是作为“具备基本功能的产品”于8月4日正式上线的，目前其办公室正努力解决各类问题。
Boegman said the system was set up as a "minimum viable product" to launch on Aug. 4 and his office is working to rectify the problems.
他还表示，办公室也在积极宣传那些受外国势力影响的人员进行登记的重要性，待审核完所有已提交的申请之后，再决定后续应采取何种措施。
He said his office is also working to spread the word about the need for those engaged in foreign influence to and will decide what steps to take next after reviewing the registrations that have been submitted.