颇具争议的Twitch主播哈桑·皮克尚未踏入德克萨斯州，便因计划访问德克萨斯大学奥斯汀分校而引发了热议。
Controversial Twitch streamer Hasan Piker made waves with his visit to the University of Texas-Austin before he even made it into the Lone Star State.
上周，在一场由该校民主党学生组织举办的活动上，皮克正在发表演讲。与此同时，另一位观点截然不同的人正在向学生们讲述自己的求生经历。这位名叫玛雅·雷盖夫的前哈马斯人质向在场学生讲述亲身经历，希望他们能听到亲历2023年10月7日那场惨剧之人的声音。
While he was speaking at an event last week hosted by University Democrats, a student group, another speaker with a much different point of view was telling her story of survival. Former Hamas hostage Maya Regev spoke to students with the goal of ensuring that they hear from someone who witnessed the horrors of Oct. 7, 2023, firsthand.
在最近接受福克斯新闻数字频道采访时，雷盖夫对皮克的一句臭名昭著的言论表示不满。皮克曾说：“10月7日是否真的发生了强奸事件其实无关紧要，这对我而言并不会改变什么。”
In a recent conversation with Fox News Digital, Regev took issue with one of Piker's infamous remarks that "It doesn’t matter if rapes f---ing happened on Oct. 7, like that doesn’t change the dynamic for me."
一份委员会报告指出，哈马斯在10月7日“蓄意且系统性地”实施了性暴力行为。雷盖夫表示，那些对康奈尔大学兄弟会成员涉嫌性侵事件感到担忧的学生们，或许正在聆听一个声称“强奸无关紧要”之人的言论。
HAMAS USED SEXUAL VIOLENCE 'DELIBERATELY AND SYSTEMATICALLY' ON OCT 7, COMMISSION REPORT FINDS Regev said students concerned about cases like the sexual assault allegations against Cornell fraternity members may be listening to a person who's said "rape doesn't matter."
当被问及他对10月7日哈马斯涉嫌实施强奸事件的争议性言论时，皮克对《新共和》杂志表示：“确实有证据表明人质们遭受了性暴力。但这并不能改变以色列正在对巴勒斯坦人实施种族灭绝这一事实，也无法改变我反对这种种族灭绝行为的立场。”雷盖夫还透露，在皮克宣布将访问德克萨斯大学奥斯汀分校后，遍布全球的犹太组织“哈巴德”便主动联系她，希望她也能在该校发表演讲。
Asked about his controversial remarks about the reported rapes committed by Hamas on Oct. 7, Piker told The New Republic that there was "definitely testimony of sexual violence that had taken place amongst the hostages. But that doesn’t change the dynamic of Israel committing a genocide against the Palestinians, and my opposing that genocide." Regev told Fox News Digital that Chabad, a Jewish organization with representatives across the globe, reached out to her about speaking at UT Austin after Piker's visit to the university was announced.
“我并非来这里压制任何人的言论，”雷盖夫对福克斯新闻数字频道说道，“我此行的目的是让大家听到我的亲身经历，了解事情的另一面——用事实、照片和记录来讲述。”
"I'm not here to silence anyone," Regev told Fox News Digital. "I came there to let people hear what I've been through, like the other side of the story, with facts, with pictures, with records."
德克萨斯州举办的哈桑·皮克演讲会引发了各界强烈反对。反诽谤联盟批评皮克散布所谓“反犹太主义阴谋论与刻板言论”，并列举了他对10月7日事件的若干言论，其中包括称哈马斯人质、美以双重国籍士兵埃丹·亚历山大是自愿加入“纳粹军队”的。雷盖夫表示，虽然皮克享有言论自由、“想说什么都可以”，但她认为确保学生们能接触到多种观点同样至关重要。她还强调，自己讲述的都是亲身经历，而非从他人那里听来的故事。
UNIVERSITY EVENT WITH HASAN PIKER IN TEXAS DRAWS BACKLASH FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE The Anti-Defamation League has criticized Piker for what it calls his "antisemitic conspiracy theories and tropes," and has a list of some of his remarks about Oct. 7, including posting that Hamas hostage and American-Israeli soldier Edan Alexander had volunteered for the "Nazi army." Regev said that while Piker has freedom of speech and "can say whatever he wants," it was important for her to make sure students were getting more than one point of view. Regev also emphasized the fact that she was speaking from her own experience, not things she read about from others.
“对我而言，10月7日绝非一个可以争论的话题，也不是我在网上读到的信息。那是我亲身经历的事，将永远刻在我的记忆中，伴随我一生，”雷盖夫对福克斯新闻数字频道说道，“我认为学生们有必要明白：每一个故事背后都有真实存在的人。”
"For me, October 7, it's not a debate, it's not something I read online. It's something that I've lived through, something that will forever be inside me, something that I will have to live with for the rest of my life," Regev told Fox News Digital. "I just think that it's important for them to understand that behind every story there are real human beings."
“我曾是人质，是哈马斯的人质，”雷盖夫继续说道，“我被那些恶魔般的哈马斯分子囚禁着。我觉得学生们或许会忘记：那些遇难者都是真实的人，是有家庭的人，有被强奸的女性，也有生命在10月7日那天被毁掉的男性。”雷盖夫批评了皮克及其他缺乏第一手经历却试图影响学生观点的网络红人。
"I was a hostage. I was a Hamas hostage," Regev told Fox News Digital. "I was being held by Hamas, by those monsters, and I think that students might, you know, forget that they are actually real human beings, real families that lost their lives, real women that got raped, men, lives were destroyed on October 7." Regev pushed back on Piker and other online influencers shaping students' opinions without firsthand knowledge.
“当学生们看到网络红人发布的内容或读到某些言论时，在随声附和或为无辜者的死亡欢呼之前，他们应当先核实事实，”雷盖夫强调道。
"When they hear an influencer post something, when they read something, it's important for them to check the facts before they are repeating a slogan or celebrating death of innocent people," Regev said.
她后来补充道：“我和那些人坐在一起。我和他们生活了两个月，和哈马斯的人在一起……我认为人们应该听听真正身处其中的人怎么说，而不是听那些只在网上看东西却拥有数百万粉丝的人怎么说。”当被问及像皮克尔这样的网红在加沙局势上哪里搞错了时，她说他们忽视了实地现实，特别是哈马斯利用巴勒斯坦平民作为人盾。
She later added, "I sat with those people. I lived with them for two months, with Hamas people ... I think that people should listen to a person who was really there and not to a person who just sees stuff online and has millions of followers." When asked what influencers like Piker get wrong about the situation in Gaza, she said that they overlook the realities on the ground, particularly Hamas' use of Palestinian civilians as human shields.
“哈马斯正在利用儿童、妇女和老年妇女作为人盾，”雷格夫说。“我认为，同样，人们在说话前应该了解事实，尤其是当你极具影响力时。”2023年10月7日，雷格夫和她的哥哥伊泰·雷格夫以及朋友奥默·舍姆·托夫一起去了诺瓦音乐节。当火箭警报在早上6点29分响起时，雷格夫并不太惊慌，她解释说，作为一个在以色列长大的人，在那天之前她已经经历过好几次这种情况了。
"Hamas is using children and women and elderly women as a human shield," Regev said. "I think, again, people should know the facts before they're talking, and especially when you're very influencing." On Oct. 7, 2023, Regev went to the Nova Music Festival with her brother Itay Regev and her friend Omer Shem Tov. When the rocket alerts began sounding at 6:29 a.m., Regev was not so alarmed, explaining, as someone who grew up in Israel, it was something she had experienced several times before that day.
“我们以为只是时间问题，一切就会平静下来，我们可以继续狂欢，但过了一段时间我们意识到情况比我们想象的严重得多，”她说。
"We thought it was just a matter of time before everything will calm down, and we can keep on partying, but after some time we understood that it [was] a lot more serious than what we thought," she said.
雷格夫解释说，一行人朝他们的车走去，随后被警察告知弃车，因为恐怖分子已经入侵了该国。就在这时，雷格夫、她的哥哥和舍姆·托夫开始奔跑，她估计跑了60到90分钟。随后他们接到了奥里·达尼诺的电话，他是一位朋友的朋友，也在音乐节现场。达尼诺已经脱离了危险区，但决定折返接应这群人带他们去安全的地方。不幸的是，他们所有人都被绑架并带到了加沙。
Regev explained that the group headed towards their cars before being told by police officers to abandon their vehicles and that terrorists had invaded the country. That's when Regev, her brother and Shem Tov began running for what she estimated to be 60 to 90 minutes. They then got a call from Ori Danino, a friend of a friend who was also at the festival. Danino had already gotten out of the danger zone, but decided to turn around and pick up the group to get them to safety. Unfortunately, all of them would be abducted and taken to Gaza.
这群人开了大约五分钟，一辆载有恐怖分子的“大皮卡”开始向他们射击，雷格夫双腿中弹。她的哥哥也中枪了。恐怖分子将雷格夫、她的哥哥和舍姆·托夫从车上拖出，强行塞进皮卡，开往加沙地带。虽然达尼诺最初设法逃脱，但后来被另一伙恐怖分子抓获，带入了加沙地带。雷格夫兄妹于2023年11月下旬获释，前后相隔仅几天。
The group drove for about five minutes before "a big pickup truck" with terrorists began shooting at them, hitting Regev in both of her legs. Her brother was also shot. The terrorists dragged Regev, her brother and Shem Tov out of the vehicle before loading them into the pickup truck and driving them into Gaza. While Danino was initially able to escape, he was later caught by another group of terrorists and taken into the Strip. The Regev siblings were released from captivity in late November 2023, within a few days of each other.
雷格夫形容她从加沙获释的心情是苦乐参半，既庆幸能回家，又担心留在后面的朋友。
Regev described her release from Gaza as being bittersweet, feeling grateful to be home while worrying about her friends who were left behind. "It was a total shock.
“这完全是个巨大的冲击。我以为奥默会在我之后几天就回家，但随后停火协议终止了。所以对我来说非常难熬。我简直不敢相信我逃离了这人间地狱，而他们还被关押在那里，奥里、奥默，以及所有其他人质，”雷格夫对福克斯新闻数字频道说道。
I thought that Omer will return home, like, a few days after me, but then the ceasefire was stopped. So, it was very hard for me. I couldn't believe that I escaped this hell, and they are still there being held, Ori, Omer, all the other hostages," Regev told Fox News Digital.
哈桑·皮克称哈马斯“温和得多”，无视恐怖组织在加沙的残暴统治 “我感到非常内疚，因为我获救了，回到了家人身边。我能接受我需要的医疗救治，而那里的人却在受苦，人质依然在受苦，挨饿，遭受身心虐待。但我意识到我现在有了发声的机会，我必须利用它，我会竭尽全力把他们带回家，”她补充道。
HASAN PIKER CALLS HAMAS 'FAR MORE MODERATE,' DISMISSES TERROR GROUP’S BRUTAL RULE IN GAZA "I felt very guilty that I was saved, that I'm back home with my family. I can get the medical treatment that I needed to receive and there are people there suffering, still hostages suffering, not eating, being abused physically and mentally. But I understood that I have a voice now, and I have to use it, and I'll do anything in my [power] to bring them back home," she added.
达尼诺在被囚禁11个月后，被恐怖分子处决，与他一同遇难的还有赫什·戈德堡-波林、伊登·耶路沙尔米、卡梅尔·加特、阿尔莫格·萨鲁西和亚历山大·洛巴诺夫。舍姆·托夫在哈马斯囚禁下度过了505天，于2025年2月22日获释。
Danino would survive 11 months in captivity before terrorists executed him, along with Hersh Goldberg-Polin, Eden Yerushalmi, Carmel Gat, Almog Sarusi and Alexander Lobanov. Shem Tov endured 505 days in Hamas captivity and was released on Feb. 22, 2025.
随着哥哥和舍姆·托夫回家，雷格夫终于能够展望未来，这是她在所有人质全部返回之前，从未在心理上做好准备去做的事。现在，她正享受生活中的简单乐趣，在户外散步，仰望天空。
With her brother and Shem Tov back home, Regev is finally able to look to the future, something she wasn't mentally ready to do until all of the hostages were returned. Now, she's enjoying the simple things in life, walking outside, looking up at the sky.
"我只想做一切让我快乐的事,"雷格夫对福克斯新闻数字版表示。"当我被囚禁在那里时,我向自己承诺要好好活下去。我对自己说,如果我能再次回家,我要好好生活,要读书,要环游世界,要和朋友及家人在一起。而这正是我现在正在做的,你知道吗,我只是在做任何让我快乐的事。""我认为我对自己唯一的愿望就是永远快乐,并对拥有的一切心存感激。"福克斯新闻数字版联系了皮克尔置评,但未立即收到回复。
CLICK HERE FOR MORE COVERAGE OF MEDIA AND CULTURE "I just want to do everything that makes me happy," Regev told Fox News Digital. "When I was there in captivity, I promised myself that I will live life. I told myself that if I'll ever be home again, I'll live life, and I'll study, and I'll go travel the world, and I'd be with friends and my family. And it's what I'm doing now, you know, I'm just doing whatever makes me happy." "I think that the only thing I wish for myself is to be happy forever and grateful for everything that I have." Fox News Digital reached out to Piker for comment but did not immediately receive a response.