穆宾·谢赫，一名前塔利班激进化的圣战者，详细描述了使他沉迷于极端主义意识形态的激进化过程，随后他摆脱了这些观点，成为美国和加拿大的反恐专家。
Mubin Shaikh, a former Jihadist radicalized by the Taliban, details the radicalization process that enamored him with extremist ideology, before he snapped out of those views to become a counter-terrorism specialist for the United States and Canada.
“最大的指标[激进化]就是我们所说的通往暴力的行为路径。比如，对目标进行侦察，查找，你知道，当地的犹太教堂在哪里？当地的清真寺在哪里？”谢赫对福克斯新闻数字版说道。
"The biggest indicator [of radicalization is] what we call pathway to violence behaviors. So, doing reconnaissance on a target, looking up, you know, where's the local synagogue? Where's the local mosque?" Shaikh told Fox News Digital.
“家长、教育工作者和其他人了解这些迹象非常重要，这样他们才有可能防止下一次袭击，”他继续说道。
"It's very important for parents, educators and others to be aware of these signs so that they can possibly prevent the next attack," he continued.
美国青年在网上被激进化，因在社交媒体上仇恨国家而在涉嫌恐怖阴谋案中被捕。谢赫的激进化始于一次家庭聚会，当时他的叔叔“用内疚感”让他觉得这次聚会是“他所能做的最可怕的事情”，这“玷污”了他的家庭。
AMERICAN YOUTH RADICALIZED ONLINE, BUSTED IN SUSPECTED TERROR PLOTS AFTER HATING COUNTRY ON SOCIAL MEDIA Shaikh’s introduction to radicalization began after a house party, where his uncle "guilt tripped" him into thinking the party was the "most heinous thing possible" he could’ve done that "dishonored" his family.
“正是这件事让我告诉自己，我需要变得宗教化，而这就是我的激进化的开始，”他继续说道。
"That’s what made me tell myself, I need to get religious, and that is what would start my radicalization," he continued.
那次事件促使他前往印度、叙利亚和巴基斯坦，在那里他被塔利班激进化。
That incident prompted his travels to India, Syria and Pakistan, where he was radicalized by the Taliban.
“她曾是基地组织成员的妻子。如今，一名女性正在与她亲眼目睹的恐怖主义作斗争。”
“我被派往的巴基斯坦城市叫奎塔，那是也是塔利班的据点……我有一次偶然遇到塔利班，他们基本上灌输给我这样的想法：在这个世界和来世中，我要真正成功的唯一途径就是成为武装分子，参与圣战，”他补充道。
SHE WAS MARRIED TO AN AL QAEDA MEMBER. NOW ONE WOMAN IS FIGHTING THE TERRORISM SHE SAW UP CLOSE "The city that I was sent to in Pakistan was called Quetta and was and is a Taliban stronghold… I had a chance encounter with the Taliban who basically impressed upon me that the only way for me to really be successful in this world and the next world was to be a militant, was to fight in jihad," he added.
“我，作为一个寻求意义、归属感和身份认同的年轻人，这些人给了我我认为自己所寻求的东西——于是我成为了他们思想的支持者，”谢赫继续说道。
"Me, [as] this young man looking for a sense of meaning, belonging [and] identity, these guys gave me what I thought I was looking for - and I became a supporter of their mentality," Shaikh continued.
几年后谢赫结婚了——他说这是他开始摆脱极端主义思想阴霾的现实。
A few years later Shaikh got married — a reality he says started to clear the smoke around his extremist views.
据报道，英国的穆斯林监狱团伙强迫囚犯改信伊斯兰教，并将这些监狱称为“圣战训练营”。
“关于神学和地缘政治的抽象讨论，最终让我意识到一个现实：我有一个妻子，我拥有未来，我可以建立一个家庭。这对我来说变得非常重要；这满足了每个人对亲密关系的需求。因此，我对极端主义世界的兴趣逐渐减弱了，”他说。
MUSLIM JAIL GANGS SAID TO FORCE CONVERSIONS ON PRISONERS IN UK: 'JIHADIST TRAINING CAMPS’ "The abstract conversations around theology and geopolitics yielded to the very real reality in front of me of having a wife and the idea that I could have a future, I could start a family, and so that became more important for me in my life. And that was basically addressing intimacy needs that every human being has.
2001年9月11日成为促使谢赫改变信仰的关键事件。那次美国历史上最严重的恐怖袭击促使他前往叙利亚，深入研究伊斯兰教。
And so my interest in the extremist world started to wane a bit," he said. September 11th, 2001 would later become the biggest single catalyst in deradicalizing Shaikh.
“我在那里学习了两年阿拉伯语和伊斯兰教相关知识，经历了自我‘去极端化’的过程，”他继续说道。
The worst terrorist attack in American history prompted him to travel to Syria, and research Islamic studies in depth.
根据最新报告，与“穆斯林兄弟会”有关的网络已经渗透到加拿大的各个机构中。当他回到加拿大后，首位因恐怖主义指控被捕的人是莫明·卡瓦贾（Momin Khawaja）——他在童年时期与谢赫同在古兰经学校学习。
"I would spend two years there studying Arabic and Islamic studies and would go through this period of de-radicalization," he continued. MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD-LINKED NETWORKS EMBEDDED ACROSS CANADIAN INSTITUTIONS, NEW REPORT ALLEGES When he returned to Canada, "the first Canadian had been arrested on terrorism charges after the newly minted post-9-11 anti-terror legislation" - Momin Khawaja - a fellow classmate and peer of Shaikh from Quran school during his childhood.
谢赫了解到加拿大安全情报局（CSIS）的存在后主动联系了他们，认为卡瓦贾的指控可能是错误的。在确认卡瓦贾确实被捕后，CSIS招募他成为反恐工作的卧底特工。
Shaikh saw reference to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and reached out to them, thinking Khawaja’s accusal a mistake. Once they confirmed his classmate’s arrest and spoke more to Shaikh, CSIS recruited him as an undercover operative in counterterrorism efforts.
“我当时已经在网上关注极端主义的相关信息……到了2012年，我开始实时关注‘伊斯兰国’（ISIS）的崛起。就在那时，美国政府联系我，问我能否提供帮助。从2012年到2020年，我参与了多项反ISIS的行动和合作，”他继续说道。
"I was already online, looking at the extremism that was out there… and by 2012, started to see the rise of ISIS in real time. It was at this time that the US government reached out to me and said, 'Hey, can you help us out with what's coming?'
据报道，真主党通过其“童子军运动”（Scout Movement）培养儿童为殉道者做好准备。这位谢赫（Sheikh）目前担任非营利组织“Parents for Peace”的专家，该组织致力于防止极端主义和激进主义的发生，通过在问题变得严重之前对相关人员（其中绝大多数为18岁以下的青少年）进行干预来阻止他们走向极端道路。
And so from 2012 to 2020, I participated and I supported the coalition against ISIS in various anti-ISIS activities and operations," he continued. HEZBOLLAH GROOMS CHILDREN FOR MARTYRDOM THROUGH ITS SCOUT MOVEMENT, REPORT CLAIMS Shaikh works now as an exit peer specialist for Parents for Peace, a nonprofit fighting radicalization and extremism by intervening with individuals before it’s too late, most of whom "overwhelmingly are juveniles" under 18.
“让我对打击极端主义充满希望的是，看到人们摆脱极端思想后的改变。他们的态度和行为简直像白天和黑夜一样截然不同。当他们意识到自己曾经的错误，明白那些极端思想曾将他们引向何方，并且真正摆脱了那些思想后，他们的生活和个人处境都会变得更好。”他继续说道。
"What gives me hope in countering extremism is really seeing how people turn out after they've left extremist ideologies. It's like a night-and-day difference. And when they come to see the mistake that they were making, when they come to see the pathway that it was leading them towards and seeing that they have left that, their lives get better, their personal situation gets better," he continued.
“看到父母重新拥有自己的孩子，这才是我们工作的真正意义所在。”谢赫说。
"To see parents, you know, have their kid back again — that's what it's all about," Shaikh said.