随着更多汉密尔顿钢铁工人收到美国所有的钢铁公司Stelco发出的裁员通知，一位法律专家提出了国有化的可能性，这可能意味着联邦政府将接管该公司的所有权。
As more Hamilton steel workers receive layoff notices from the U.S.-owned plant Stelco, one legal expert is raising the possibility of nationalization, which could see the federal government take ownership of the company.
“最终的关键问题是，不同的管理层是否能做得更好，”昆士兰大学法学院和政策研究学院副教授尼古拉斯·兰普对CBC汉密尔顿表示。
“The key question, ultimately, is could different management do better,” Nicolas Lamp, associate professor at the faculty of law and school of policy studies at Queens University, told CBC Hamilton.
兰普质疑Stelco是否在为其加拿大工人的最佳利益行事，或者它是否在参与针对加拿大的美国贸易战。
Lamp questioned whethers Stelco was acting in the best interests of its Canadian workers or had an interest in the U.S. trade war against Canada.
“在这种情况下，CEO的利益存在明显冲突……或者他对问题的看法至少因其同时拥有从关税中受益的美国业务而被扭曲。综合这些因素，我们目前所处的不确定时刻，加上我们无法真正信任CEO，这让我将国有化视为一种选择。”
“Clearly there's a conflict of interest here in the case of the CEO … or his perspective on the issue is at least distorted by the fact that he also has U.S. operations who are benefiting from the tariffs. So taking these factors together, the moment of uncertainty that we're in, the fact that we can't really trust the CEO, that made me think of that [nationalizing] as an option.”
被裁的Stelco钢铁工人对公司的未来以及自身前景感到压力：“我们正在被出售。”兰普表示，渥太华应在钢铁行业人才流失之前考虑介入，并补充说，如果个人搬迁、转岗、再培训或退休，裁员很难逆转。
Laid-off Stelco steelworkers stressed about company's future — and their own: 'We're being sold out' Lamp says that Ottawa should consider stepping in before talent within the steel industry is displaced, adding that layoffs are difficult to reverse if individuals move away, relocate, retrain or retire.
“而在加拿大正努力建设大量基础设施、重大工厂和重大项目之际，这实际上是一个问题：加拿大是否应该让所有这些专业知识就这样消失。”汉密尔顿Stelco钢铁厂的裁员已经开始，预计将影响300至350名员工。
“And at the moment when Canada is trying to build a lot of infrastructure, major plants, major projects, it's really a question of whether Canada should just let all that expertise kind of die.”Layoffs at Hamilton's Stelco steel plant are already underway and are expected to impact between 300 to 350 employees.
联合钢铁工人局1005分会主席罗恩·韦尔斯表示，他对国有化的想法持开放态度。
Ron Wells, president of United Steelworkers Local 1005, says he’s open to the idea of nationalization.
“我不确定它具体会如何运作，但我认为这不会是件坏事，”他对CBC汉密尔顿表示，并指出加拿大其他王牌企业如加拿大国家铁路（CN）和加拿大邮政作为例子。
“I'm not sure how it would work, but I don't think it would be a bad thing,” he told CBC Hamilton, pointing to Canada’s other crown corporations like CN and Canada Post as examples.
斯泰尔科所有者面临法律期限压力 由于渥太华威胁对克利夫利夫斯公司提起法律行动，国有化讨论正在进行。克利夫利夫斯公司于2024年收购了斯泰尔科。
Stelco owner under pressure from legal deadline The nationalization discussion is happening as Ottawa threatens legal action against Cleveland-Cliffs, which acquired Stelco in 2024.
周一，工业部长梅拉尼·乔利给该公司五个工作日的时间，提交一份计划，说明其将如何在《投资加拿大法》下维持对保留加拿大就业的承诺。
On Monday, Industry Minster Mélanie Joly gave the company five business days to submit a plan on how it would keep its commitments to maintain Canadian jobs under the Investment Canada Act.
“加拿大政府非常重视对承诺的遵守，”乔利在信中写道，该信件于周二被CBC新闻获取。
“The Government of Canada takes compliance with undertakings seriously,” Joly wrote in the letter, obtained by CBC News on Tuesday.
“如果投资者未能遵守承诺，《投资加拿大法》提供了违约的补救措施，包括向上级法院申请命令，该命令可能包括指令遵守、剥离或金钱处罚。”
“Where an investor fails to comply with an undertaking, the act provides remedies for breaches, including an application to the superior court for orders that may include directing compliance, divestiture, or monetary penalties.
“我相信这样的步骤不会必要。”加拿大总理马克·卡尼昨天在魁北克省谢布鲁克，当时被问及如果克利夫利夫斯公司不逆转裁员，政府是否愿意国有化斯泰尔科。
“I trust that such steps will not be necessary.”Prime Minister Mark Carney was in Sherbrooke, Que., yesterday where he was asked if the government would be willing to nationalize Stelco if Cleveland-Cliffs doesn’t reverse the layoffs.
“他们还有几天时间回应工业部长的信，”他说。“我们将等待该回应，随后采取适当行动。”新民主党议员唐·戴维斯认为钢铁对加拿大的主权和国家安全至关重要，并认为国有化值得探讨。
“They have a few days left to respond to the minister of industry's letter,” he said. “We'll await that response and take appropriate action afterwards.”NDP MP Don Davies calls steel vital to Canada’s sovereignty and national security, and believes nationalization is worthy of exploration.
“你知道，我们这里不是在制造篮球。我们谈论的是钢铁，它是我们国家的基石。所以这是一个选项。必须予以考虑，”戴维斯在周四于国会山向记者表示。
“You know, we're not making basketballs here. We're talking about steel that is the foundation of our country. So it's an option. It has to be looked at,” Davies told reporters at Parliament Hill on Thursday.
他还表示，他认为克利夫利夫斯对斯泰尔科的收购本就不应在《投资加拿大法》下获批。国有化将如何运作？
He also said that he thinks the Cleveland-Cliffs takeover should never have been approved under the Investment Canada Act. How would nationalization work?
兰普表示，政府拥有斯泰尔科是渥太华对克利夫利夫斯公司法律威胁的一个潜在结果。
Lamp says that government ownership of Stelco is one potential outcome from Ottawa’s legal threat to Cleveland-Cliffs.
乔利的信中提到了法院命令的剥离，这可能会迫使斯泰尔科出售公司。
Joly’s letter includes reference to court-ordered divestiture, which could force Stelco to sell the company.
“理想情况下会有私人买家来收购它，”兰普说。“但如果没有的话，鉴于我们目前所处的不确定时刻，这可能是加拿大政府介入并说‘好的，我们要收购它’的机会。”渥太华真的会把Stelco告上法庭吗？上次渥太华给Stelco的美国所有者五天时间提交保留就业计划时发生了什么？兰普指出，2018年联邦政府从Kinder Morgan手中收购跨山输油管道的案例，是政府从私营公司手中收购重大基础设施的一个例子。
“Ideally there would be a private buyer who would pick it up,” Lamp said. “But if not, given the moment of uncertainty that we're in, that might be an opportunity for the Canadian government to step in and say, ‘Okay, we're going to buy it’.”Will Ottawa really take Stelco to court? Here's what happened last time Ottawa gives Stelco's U.S. owner 5 days to share plan to keep jobs Lamp pointed to the purchase of the Trans Mountain pipeline from Kinder Morgan in 2018 as an example of the federal government gathering major infrastructure from a private company.
“我不是说我们肯定应该国有化它，”他说。“我认为加拿大政府真的必须非常仔细地审视这些裁员背后的原因，以及一家更具同情心、以加拿大工人和加拿大国家利益为重的公司，是否会采取类似行动。”与此同时，500名钢铁工人的职业前景仍然悬而未决。
“I'm not saying we should definitely nationalize it,” he said. “I would say that the Canadian government really has to look very closely at what the reasons for these layoffs are and whether a company that was more sympathetic, that had the Canadian workers and also the Canadian national interest in mind, would act similarly.”Meanwhile, the professional fate of 500 steel workers remains in limbo.
克利夫兰-克利夫斯公司表示，裁员是为了“确保公司在艰难市场中的生存”，但韦尔斯说他认为其中存在政治动机。
Cleveland-Cliffs has stated the layoffs are necessary to “ensure the survival” of the company in a tough market, but Wells says he believes that motivations are political.
“我们认为这是出于政治动机，因为美国中期选举即将到来，而且克利夫兰克利夫斯公司的首席执行官正试图施压加拿大政府达成一项贸易协议。”不过，他说他认为这些工作“绝对”可能会重新回到汉密尔顿。
“We think it's politically motivated because of the midterms coming up in the States and because the CEO of Cleveland Cliffs is trying to pressure the Canadian government to make a trade deal.”Still, he said he thinks the jobs could “absolutely” return to Hamilton.
“仅仅这些来自首席执行官的言论就足以证明我们的观点——这是为了促成一项贸易协议而做的，”他说。“我不认为这是出于市场驱动。”兰普表示，在特殊情况下对产业人才做出永久性决定存在风险。
“Just those statements from the CEO kind of proves our point that this was done to get a trade deal,” he said. “I don't think it was market driven.”Lamp says there's a risk in making permanent decisions about industry talent during unusual circumstances.
“在法律界，我们有句俗语：‘硬案造就坏法律’，”他说。“我们不希望在特殊情况下就加拿大钢铁产能做出具有永久后果的长期决定。”“这就是为什么政府可能有理由介入的原因。”
“In law, we have the saying ‘hard cases make bad law’,” he said. “We wouldn't want to make a long-term decision about Canadian steel capacity that has permanent consequences under extraordinary circumstances. “And that's why there might be a reason for the government to step in.”