佛罗里达州民主党参议院候选人、州议员安吉·尼克松和康涅狄格州参议员克里斯·墨菲加入凯西·亨特的节目，讨论民主党为何能够在佛罗里达州具备竞争力。
Florida Democratic Senate candidate, State Representative Angie Nixon and Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy join Kasie Hunt to discuss why the Democratic party can be competitive in Florida.
参议员，先从你开始，因为当然，全国民主党一直不愿在这场佛罗里达州的参议院竞选中进行投资。这是一张非常庞大的选举地图，但你已经将注意力集中在此。你在做什么？以及你为什么认为自己能在这里带来改变？>> 嗯，是的。
SENATOR START WITH YOU BECAUSE, OF COURSE, NATIONAL DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T BEEN WILLING TO INVEST IN THIS SENATE RACE IN FLORIDA. IT'S A VERY LARGE MAP, BUT YOU HAVE FOCUSED IN ON IT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING AND WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE? >> UM, YEAH. >> THANKS FOR HAVING US.
谢谢邀请。我是说，有两个原因。第一，我认为我们能赢下佛罗里达州，作为全国民主党，我们不能放弃佛罗里达州。所以我今天来到这里为安吉助选。我已承诺向她的竞选活动以及佛罗里达州的其他竞选活动投入10万美元。我认为这里会有投入。我希望这里会有投入，因为我们能赢。但坦白说，我来这里真正的原因是因为安吉是一位杰出的候选人。我是说，我就觉得我们党一直缺乏大思路。我认为有很多人觉得我们党在面对民众遇到的问题时，就是……就是同样软弱。所以当我听到安吉直面权力讲真话，谈论企业权力如何践踏工人，为什么这个国家需要体面工资，为什么每个人都应享有医疗保健时，伙计，这听起来就是那种能团结全国各地民主党人的信息。所以我来这里是因为我希望党里在佛罗里达州投入资源。如果我们有资源，就能赢下这场选战。但我来这里也是因为我觉得她传递的信息将在全国产生共鸣。在今年许多共和党选民因对这位欺骗了国家的总统感到羞耻而选择留在家里不投票的情况下，我们需要让民主党人充满热情，不仅是为了击败唐纳德·特朗普的合伙人和追随者，更是为了真正对我们自己的候选人充满热情。而且伙计，我们今天就看到了这一点。我们刚离开中央佛罗里达大学的一群学生，现场人满为患，我想都快触及消防法规上限了。孩子们对安吉就是这么兴奋。>> 呃，参议员，您用了“软弱”这个词。现在，参议员舒默，多数党领袖，或者少数党领袖，抱歉，可能成为多数党领袖的人，并没有在这里投入资源。舒默不在佛罗里达州投钱，这算软弱吗？>> 好吧，我认为我们将会在佛罗里达州投入资源。
I MEAN, TWO REASONS. ONE, I THINK WE CAN WIN FLORIDA AND WE CAN'T GIVE UP ON FLORIDA AS A NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY. SO I'M DOWN HERE CAMPAIGNING WITH ANGIE TODAY. I'VE COMMITTED $100,000 TO HER RACE AND TO THE RACES IN FLORIDA. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE AN INVESTMENT HERE. I HOPE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INVESTMENT HERE BECAUSE WE CAN WIN. BUT FRANKLY, I'M REALLY HERE BECAUSE ANGIE IS AN EXCEPTIONAL CANDIDATE. I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT OUR PARTY HAS SUFFERED FROM A LACK OF BIG IDEAS. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE WHO THINK THAT OUR PARTY IS, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST AS WEAK WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING. AND SO WHEN I HEAR ANGIE SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW CORPORATE POWER HAS TRAMPLED ON WORKERS, WHY WE NEED A LIVING WAGE IN THIS COUNTRY, WHY EVERYBODY SHOULD DESERVE HEALTH CARE. MAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE KIND OF MESSAGE THAT WOULD RALLY DEMOCRATS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT THE PARTY TO INVEST IN FLORIDA. WE CAN WIN THIS RACE IF WE HAVE THE RESOURCES. BUT I'M ALSO HERE BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT SHE HAS A MESSAGE THAT IS GOING TO RESONATE AROUND THE COUNTRY. AND IN A YEAR WHERE A LOT OF REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE GOING TO STAY HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE SO EMBARRASSED BY THIS PRESIDENT WHO HAS DEFRAUDED THE COUNTRY, WE NEED TO HAVE DEMOCRATS ENTHUSIASTIC NOT JUST TO DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP'S PARTNERS AND HIS ACOLYTES, BUT TO ACTUALLY BE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT OUR CANDIDATES. AND MAN, WE SAW THAT HERE TODAY. WE JUST LEFT A BUNCH OF STUDENTS AT CENTRAL FLORIDA, AND THE ROOM WAS, I THINK, BUMPING UP AGAINST FIRE CODES. KIDS ARE THAT EXCITED ABOUT ANGIE. >> UM, SENATOR, YOU USED THE WORD WEAK. NOW, SENATOR SCHUMER, THE MAJORITY LEADER OR MINORITY LEADER, EXCUSE ME, POSSIBLE MAJORITY LEADER HASN'T INVESTED IN THIS. IS IT WEAK THAT SCHUMER IS NOT PUTTING MONEY IN FLORIDA >> WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE INVESTED HERE IN FLORIDA.
我坦白说，参议员吉利布兰德，作为参议院特别委员会主席，就在安吉获胜后大约一天给我打了电话，你知道的，她说：“听着，我们需要在佛罗里达进行投资。这是全员上阵。”所以我认为这里将会有投资和合作伙伴关系。你知道的，我只是在反映选民们的声音。当你看民调时，过去十年里有很多人表示民主党很软弱。
I MEAN, FRANKLY, THE HEAD OF THE SCC, SENATOR GILLIBRAND, CALLED ME JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A DAY AFTER ANGIE WON AND SAID, LISTEN, WE NEED TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN FLORIDA. IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK. SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INVESTMENT AND A PARTNERSHIP HERE. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST I'M JUST REFLECTING WHAT VOTERS SAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT POLLS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WHO HAVE SAID DEMOCRATS ARE WEAK.
他们在捍卫劳动人民方面力度不够。因此，当我们有像安吉·尼克松这样的候选人时——安吉·尼克松. com，她一直在为劳动人民奋力斗争——我认为我们应该表达支持。>> 是的。我认为值得注意的是，参议员吉利布兰德以及参议员舒默，我们目前正在进行对话。他们现在正与我们合作。我们与民主党参议院竞选委员会（DSCC）一起成立了领导层政治行动委员会（Leadership PAC），现在有众多参议员和众议员正在支持这次竞选。
THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT STRONG ENOUGH IN DEFENSE OF WORKING PEOPLE. AND SO WHEN WE HAVE CANDIDATES LIKE ANGIE NIXON, ANGIE NIXON.COM, WHO IS WHO ARE FIGHTING REALLY HARD FOR WORKING PEOPLE, I JUST THINK WE SHOULD SHOW THEM SUPPORT. >> YEAH. AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SENATOR GILLIBRAND, AS WELL AS SENATOR SCHUMER, WE ARE NOW IN CONVERSATIONS. THEY ARE NOW PARTNERING WITH US. WE OPENED UP A LEADERSHIP PAC IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE D S, E, C, AND THERE ARE TONS OF SENATORS AND CONGRESS PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW SUPPORTING THIS CAMPAIGN.
你知道的，我们当然希望得到更多的支持，越来越多。但我现在非常兴奋，因为我们需要的是——在我们的领导层和参议院中实现多样性。我认为我和参议员墨菲组成一个很好的搭档。他有一些宏大的想法。我也有一些宏大的想法。他可能有一些完全不同于我的想法，但反之亦然。不过，看啊，现在正是全员上阵的时候。
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS WOULD LOVE MORE, UM, MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE. UM, BUT I AM SUPER EXCITED BECAUSE WHAT WE NEED IS, UM, DIVERSITY IN OUR LEADERSHIP AND DIVERSITY IN THE SENATE. AND I THINK ME AND SENATOR MURPHY, WE MAKE A GOOD TAG TEAM. HE HAS SOME BIG IDEAS. I HAVE SOME BIG IDEAS. HE MAY HAVE SOME THAT MAY BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM MINE, BUT IN VICE VERSA. BUT LOOK, IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK RIGHT NOW.
在这个时刻，我们需要在全国范围内建立多元化的联盟，以应对法西斯主义和威权主义的上升。我们有一个能够引起劳动者、劳动家庭共鸣的信息，而且不仅仅是民主党人，共和党人也有共鸣。我一直在穿梭于佛罗里达州各地，现在已经与数百万选民交谈。我听到的反馈是，他们对华盛顿特区腐败和混乱的现状感到厌倦。他们准备好让人们真正站出来履行职责。
IN THIS MOMENT, WE NEED TO BE BUILDING DIVERSE COALITIONS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS WE TAKE ON THIS RISE IN FASCISM AND AUTHORITARIANISM. AND WE HAVE A MESSAGE THAT IS RESONATING WITH WORKERS, WITH WORKING FAMILIES, AND ACTUALLY NOT JUST DEMOCRATS, WITH REPUBLICANS, TOO. I HAVE BEEN TRAVELING ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND I'VE TALKED TO MILLIONS OF VOTERS NOW. AND WHAT I AM HEARING IS THAT THEY ARE TIRED OF THE CORRUPTION AND THE CHAOS THAT'S COMING OUT OF WASHINGTON, D.C. THEY ARE READY FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GET UP THERE AND DO THEIR JOBS.
而且，等我们在11月拿下众议院和参议院，因为我相信这一定会实现。我非常感谢墨菲参议员能来到这里，我们一定会兑现承诺。>> 众议员先生，前总统巴拉克·奥巴马在最后的几周里已经支持了这里的多位参议员候选人。您是否已经联系过他和他团队，看看他是否愿意支持您？>> 我们目前还没有联系他，但我们肯定会联系。
AND WHEN WE TAKE THE HOUSE AND SENATE IN NOVEMBER, BECAUSE I AM SPEAKING IT INTO EXISTENCE, AND I'M SO THANKFUL FOR SENATOR MURPHY COMING DOWN HERE, WE ARE GOING TO DELIVER ON THAT. >> REPRESENTATIVE, THE FORMER PRESIDENT, BARACK OBAMA, HAS BEEN ENDORSING A NUMBER OF SENATE CANDIDATES HERE IN THE FINAL WEEKS. HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO HIM AND HIS TEAM TO SEE IF HE'S GOING TO BE WILLING TO SUPPORT YOU >> SO WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT YET. WE DEFINITELY WILL BE.
我知道如果他能支持我，我妈妈一定会非常兴奋。她还去参加了他的总统图书馆的开幕仪式。那会让她开心一整天。我永远不会忘记他来这里和她握手时的情景。她说当时好一阵子都不想洗手。所以，我们所有人都在全力以赴，我们正在邀请尽可能多的民主党人来到这里，甚至包括一些前共和党人，你知道的，来帮助我们冲过终点线。
I KNOW MY MOM WOULD BE SUPER EXCITED IF HE WAS TO ENDORSE ME. SHE WENT UP TO THE OPENING OF HIS PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY. THAT WOULD MAKE HER DAY. I'LL NEVER FORGET HE CAME DOWN HERE AND SHOOK HER HAND. SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO WASH IT FOR A WHILE. AND SO WE WE ARE ALL HANDS ON DECK, SO WE ARE ASKING AS MANY DEMOCRATS TO COME DOWN HERE, EVEN SOME FORMER REPUBLICANS, YOU KNOW, TO COME DOWN HERE AND HELP US MAKE IT OVER THE FINISH LINE.
事实是，艾什莉·穆迪是一个撒谎、欺骗、偷窃、诈骗的人，她基本上从“医疗补助计划”中骗取了1000万美元，本应用于患病儿童。她把这些钱转入了两个政治黑金账户，用来帮助罗恩·德桑蒂斯击败两个由公民主导的投票倡议。她还投票终止了佛罗里达州超过44万人的医疗保健服务。而且，你知道的，他们正在通过商业广告散布大量关于我的虚假信息，比如我声称要废除监狱、要削减警察经费。
THE FACT REMAINS THAT ASHLEY MOODY IS A LYING, CHEATING, THIEVING, SCAMMING PERSON WHO BASICALLY TOOK $10 MILLION FROM SICK KIDS FOR THE MEDICAID PROGRAM. AND SHE REROUTED THAT INTO TWO POLITICAL SLUSH FUNDS FOR RON DESANTIS TO DEFEAT TWO CITIZEN LED BALLOT INITIATIVES. SHE ALSO VOTED TO END HEALTH CARE FOR OVER 440,000 PEOPLE HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SPREADING LIKE A LOT OF DISINFORMATION AND LIES ON COMMERCIALS ABOUT ME SAYING THINGS LIKE, I WANT TO ABOLISH PRISONS AND I WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE.
我为什么要这么做呢？我明明希望她因自己的所作所为而被关进监狱、受到惩罚。所以，你知道的，我们将继续在全州范围内开展竞选活动，从潘汉德尔地区到基斯群岛。我们期待在11月3日听到他们称我为“参议员”。>> 您希望您的共和党对手被关进监狱吗？>> 你知道的，她。是的。基本上，是的。因为她所做的一切。是的，我绝对希望那样的事情发生。是的。我表达得非常清楚。
你觉得你有足够的证据证明这应该是一项逮捕令，一种应得的惩罚吗？
WHY WOULD I WANT TO DO THAT WHEN I WANT HER LOCKED UP AND PUNISHED IN JAIL FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE? AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO STOMP ON THIS CAMPAIGN TRAIL ALL ACROSS THE STATE, FROM THE PANHANDLE TO THE KEYS. AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THEM CALLING ME SENATOR ON NOVEMBER 3rd. >> YOU WANT YOUR REPUBLICAN OPPONENT LOCKED UP? >> YOU KNOW, SHE. YEAH. BASICALLY, YES. BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE DID. YES. I ABSOLUTELY WOULD WANT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. YES. DO YOU HAVE I HAVE BEEN PERFECTLY CLEAR. >> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT THAT WOULD BE A WARRANT, A WARRANTED PUNISHMENT? >> WHAT WE WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, RIGHT.
我们所看到的，没错。我们看到的是，这里的第一上诉法院（DCA）决定撤销大陪审团报告的发布，而该第一上诉法院法官实际上是由罗恩·德桑蒂斯任命的。我们所看到的是彻头彻尾的腐败。因此，作为联邦立法者，我肯定会呼吁展开调查。当我成为美国参议员时，我将积极介入，查明发生了什么。人们非常愤怒。我们不知道因为那1000万美元没有用在它本应用于的地方，可能有多少儿童将因此死亡。不仅如此，但阿什利·穆迪一直是唐纳德·特朗普的橡皮图章。当他在本州决定削减医疗补助时，我曾与众多医生和家长交谈，其中一位来自皮尼拉斯县的医生特别表示，她所在的医院大约67%到70%的资金来自医疗补助。她看着我说，在那项大法案通过之后，孩子们将会死亡。因此，我们需要确保华盛顿特区的人们真正站在每天辛勤工作的佛罗里达人这边。我将就阿什利·穆迪及其同伙所做的事情，呼吁进行全面调查。是的，绝对如此。
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT THE DCA THE FIRST DCA HERE HAS DECIDED TO WIPE OUT THE RELEASE OF THE GRAND JURY REPORT, AND THAT FIRST DCA JUDGE WAS ACTUALLY APPOINTED BY RON DESANTIS. AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS CORRUPTION THROUGH AND THROUGH. AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY CALL FOR AN INVESTIGATION AS A AS A FEDERAL LAWMAKER, WHEN I BECOME A U.S. SENATOR, TO ACTIVELY GO IN TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. PEOPLE ARE PISSED OFF. WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO DIE BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT $10 MILLION DID NOT GO TO WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ASHLEY MOODY HAS BEEN A RUBBER STAMP TO DONALD TRUMP. AND WHEN HE DECIDED TO CUT MEDICAID HERE IN THE STATE, I HAVE TALKED TO TONS OF DOCTORS AND PARENTS AND ONE DOCTOR SPECIFICALLY OVER IN PINELLAS COUNTY WHO STATED THAT THE MEDICAID, THE THE HOSPITAL THAT SHE WORKS IN, THEY RECEIVE ABOUT 67 TO 70% OF THEIR FUNDING COMES FROM MEDICAID. SHE LOOKED AT ME AND SHE SAID, AFTER THAT BIG Bs BILL PASSED, RIGHT, THAT CHILDREN ARE GOING TO DIE. AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., WHO ACTUALLY HAVE THE BACK OF HARD WORKING EVERY DAY FLORIDIANS. I WILL BE CALLING FOR A FULL ON INVESTIGATION AS IT RELATES TO WHAT ASHLEY MOODY AND THEM HAVE DONE.
在我让你离开之前，你还在计划与伯尼·桑德斯举行集会，而詹姆斯·费什巴克——右翼人士，呃，前州长候选人——曾表示他想参加。考虑到他过去的一些言论，詹姆斯·费什巴克会受欢迎参加你的集会吗？
YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> BEFORE I LET YOU GO, YOU ALSO ARE PLANNING A RALLY WITH BERNIE SANDERS THAT JAMES FISHBACK, THE RIGHT WING, UH, FORMER GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE, HAS SAID HE WANTS TO ATTEND. CONSIDERING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HE HAS MADE IN THE PAST IS JAMES FISHBACK WELCOME AT YOUR RALLY? >> EVERYONE IS WELCOME AT MY RALLY.
每个人都欢迎参加我的集会。我不赶走任何人。到了最后一天，人人都欢迎。我们正努力确保每个人都有机会健康、繁荣和安全。我将成为参议员，而不仅仅是为民主党人服务。
I DO NOT TURN PEOPLE AWAY. AT THE END OF THE DAY LIKE ALL ARE WELCOME. WE ARE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEALTHY, PROSPEROUS AND SAFE. AND I AM GOING TO BE A SENATOR, NOT JUST TO DEMOCRATS.
我将成为一位参议员，为共和党人、为“让美国再次伟大”（MAGA）的共和党人、为独立人士，甚至为那些完全不投票的人服务。因此，他们应该能够真正接触到我，并向我提出尖锐的问题。我可不像艾什利·穆迪那样，她甚至不愿与我辩论，因为她在美国参议院的记录已经失败。因此，我们需要一个真正平易近人、有道德且值得信赖的人。
I'M GOING TO BE A SENATOR TO REPUBLICANS, TO MAGA REPUBLICANS, TO INDEPENDENTS, TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T EVEN VOTE AT ALL. AND SO THEY SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE ACCESS TO ME AND ASK ME TOUGH QUESTIONS. I'M NOT LIKE ASHLEY MOODY, WHO WILL NOT EVEN DEBATE ME BECAUSE SHE HAS A FAILED RECORD HERE IN THE U.S. SENATE. AND SO WE NEED SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE, ETHICAL, AND SOMEONE THAT THEY CAN TRUST.
作为州立法者，过去六年我一直以此为傲，而当我成为下一任美国参议员时，我也会继续保持这种作风。>> 好的，安吉·尼克松、克里斯·墨菲参议员，非常感谢两位加入我们。真的非常感激。>> 非常感谢。
AND I PRIDE MYSELF ON HAVING BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS AS A STATE LAWMAKER, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY WHEN I BECOME THE NEXT U.S. SENATOR. >> ALL RIGHT, ANGIE NIXON, SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY, THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
好的。我们还需要指出的是，艾什利·穆迪是尼克松的共和党对手，她曾担任佛罗里达州总检察长，而她的办公室曾批准向佛罗里达的“希望”慈善机构支付1000万美元的和解金。该慈善机构由佛罗里达州第一夫人发起。
ALL RIGHT. WE DO WANT TO NOTE THAT ASHLEY MOODY IS NIXON'S REPUBLICAN OPPONENT, WAS FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL WHEN HER OFFICE SIGNED OFF ON A $10 MILLION SETTLEMENT PAYOUT TO HOPE, FLORIDA. IT'S A CHARITY LAUNCHED BY FLORIDA FIRST LADY