
美国前总统巴拉克·奥巴马周二表示,以色列“从人民手中夺走了土地,而且做得太过分”,他指的是以色列在整个建国历史中对巴勒斯坦人民的对待。奥巴马在访问北爱尔兰贝尔法斯特时发表了上述言论,他此行是为了从贝尔法斯特女王大学领取一枚荣誉博士学位。在与记者苏珊·麦凯的对话中,这位前总统在解释巴勒斯坦人对犹太人通过文化和军事手段控制以色列国的反应时指出:“那些人的反应完全可以理解,他们说:‘这是不公正的,我想要回我的土地。’”
Former US president Barack Obama said on Tuesday that Israel "took land off people and they were excessive," in reference to Israel's treatment of the Palestinian people throughout the history of the nation. Obama made his comments while visiting Belfast, Northern Ireland, to receive an honorary doctorate from Queen's University Belfast. In a conversation with journalist Susan McKay, the former president referred to the Palestinians' reaction to the Jewish people's exerting cultural and military control over the State of Israel by explaining that "those people understandably said, 'This is injustice, and I want my land back.'"
麦凯向奥巴马询问了围绕以色列国的中东冲突现状。这位前总统回应称,10月7日大屠杀之后对以色列的敌意表明,要实现长期解决方案,需要“真正停止冲突”。“如果你采取这种立场,那你就让出了道德高地。”奥巴马解释说:“事实上,几千年来,犹太人民一直遭受压迫、歧视和屠杀。欧洲对此负有很大责任。他们寻求庇护是完全合理的。”
McKay asked Obama about the current state of the conflict in the Middle East surrounding the State of Israel. The hostility toward Israel after the October 7 massacre was an indication that a "genuine cessation" was needed in order for long-term solutions to be implemented, the former president responded.' You have ceded moral ground if that is the position you take'"The fact is," Obama explained, "that the Jewish people, for millennia, were oppressed, discriminated against, killed. Europe was responsible for much of it.

奥巴马继续说道:“如果以色列的态度是:既然我们现在是这个地区最强大、技术最先进的国家,那么我们的安全就取决于我们只需做我们想做的事、拿我们想拿的东西,而不对任何人做出任何让步。这种态度短期或许有效……但如果你采取这种立场,那你就让出了道德高地。”《爱尔兰时报》的一篇报道指出,奥巴马在谈话中也表达了更微妙的观点,他表示,该地区数百万的犹太人和巴勒斯坦人“不会离开这里”。“以色列的公民必须重新思考、重新构想,他们的子孙后代将如何在这个地区生活。”
They understandably sought a refuge."“If the attitude of Israel is, now that we are the strongest, the most technologically advanced in the region, then our security will depend on us simply doing whatever we need and taking whatever we want, and not making any concessions to anyone," Obama continued. “That may work short-term... but you have ceded moral ground if that is the position you take."A report from The Irish Times noted that Obama did introduce nuance into the conversation, saying that the millions of Jews and Palestinians in the region "aren't going anywhere."" The citizenry of Israel has to rethink, to reimagine, how your children and grandchildren are going to live in this region.
“你难道就打算躲在墙后,把周围所有人都消灭掉吗?还是说你会找到一种公正的方式来自卫,同时仍然保持道德和伦理上的正确?”这位前总统说道。他表示,巴勒斯坦人必须明白,他们无法“在杀戮数量上超越以色列人”,也无法“在武器化程度上超过以色列人……我们必须借鉴其他变革是如何实现的例子,”他说道,并指向了“非暴力策略”。“这需要一些时间,”这位前总统承认道。
Are you just going to be behind walls and wipe out everybody around you, or are you going to find some just way of defending yourself while still acting in an ethical, moral way?" the former president said. The Palestinians, he said, have to understand that they will not "outkill" or "outweaponize the Israelis...We have to look to other examples of how change comes about," he said, pointing toward "nonviolent strategies."" That's going to take some time," the former president acknowledged.