
Twitch主播哈桑·派克在周四接受NPR的长篇采访时,为使用诸如“近亲繁殖”和“锡安主义猪”等有争议的词汇来攻击对手进行了辩护。
Twitch streamer Hasan Piker defended using controversial terms like "inbred" and "Zionist pig" against opponents in a lengthy interview with NPR Thursday.
NPR主持人莱拉·法德尔询问派克他所面临的反弹和争议,以及这些是否与他炽热的言论有关,或者仅仅因为他的“名字叫哈桑”。派克承认了自己使用了煽动性的言辞,但表示他认为,针对他的大部分反弹是由于他的背景所致。
NPR host Leila Fadel asked Piker about the backlash and controversy he has faced and whether they were related to his inflammatory comments or the fact that his "name is Hasan." Piker acknowledged his incendiary rhetoric but said he believed that most of the backlash against him was due to his background.
“当然,你知道,我说了煽动性的话,但当一个白人、基督徒、在美国出生并长大的人说煽动性的话时,情况不会被同样反思,”派克说。
"Of course, I, you know, say incendiary things, but it's not reflected on in the same way when someone who's White, Christian, born and raised in America is saying incendiary things," Piker said.
法德尔随后问,为什么一个像他一样感到“被非人化”的人会选择使用非人化的语言,尤其是针对犹太对手时。
INSIDE HASAN PIKER’S RADICAL VIEWS ON AMERICA, ISRAEL AND SOCIALISM Fadel then asked why someone who has felt "dehumanized" like him would choose to use dehumanizing language, particularly against Jewish opponents.
“当你听到有人说,‘你为什么会对一些极端正统犹太人或锡安主义猪使用像“近亲繁殖”这样的非人化语言?’作为一个也有类似感受的人,你会对他们说什么?”法德尔问道。
"When you hear people say, 'Why would you use dehumanizing language like inbred for some ultra-Orthodox Jews or Zionist pig?' What do you say to them as somebody who has felt that as well?" Fadel asked.

“那么,这是个很好的问题。我有一项政策,那就是对那些欺凌他人的人毫不留情,对那些奉行造成巨大伤害的某些意识形态的人也毫不留情,”派克说。
"So, great question. I have a policy to be ruthless to those who are bullying others, to be ruthless to those who abide by certain ideologies that are conducting great harm," Piker said.
“至于我使用的被视为非人化的语言,比如‘近亲繁殖’,这是我经常用作贬义词,针对右翼反动意识形态、民族至上主义意识形态、新纳粹意识形态的,因为我认为这是一个恰当的贬义词,考虑到这些至上主义意识形态往往围绕着民族纯洁性和种族纯洁性展开。当然,这不是要被当真地理解的。”派克补充说,他对“猪”这个词也采用同样的原则,并认为他在不同目标身上“全方位”使用了类似的语言,无论他们的背景如何。
"As far as the language that I deploy that is considered dehumanizing like 'inbred,' it's one that I use quite commonly as a pejorative towards right-wing reactionary ideology, ethno-supremacist ideology, neo-Nazi ideology, because I find it to be an apt pejorative to deploy considering that these supremacist ideologies oftentimes revolve around ethnic purity, racial purity. It's not, of course, meant to be taken seriously." Piker added that he applies the same principle to the term "pig" and argued that he used similar language "across the board" for different targets regardless of their background.
哈桑·派克承认在公众和民主党的反对声中,他已经“降低”了自己的言论。“有时候会很激烈,”他说。“我是个热情的人。我会生气。我必须,你知道,解释我的挫败感,以某种方式传达我的挫败感。这和我们这里的形式显然非常不同。
HASAN PIKER ADMITS HE HAS 'DIALED DOWN' HIS OPINIONS AFTER PUBLIC AND DEMOCRATIC BACKLASH "It gets heated at times," he said. "I'm a passionate guy. I get angry. I have to, you know, explain my frustration, communicate my frustration somehow. Very different format than we have here, obviously.
“但是,你知道,我认为很多人也有这种感觉,”派克补充道。“很多人会非常沮丧。这种情绪通常不是针对某人的实际背景。通常是他们的行为或他们的信仰体系。而且几乎总是,是他们的反动信仰体系让我觉得有必要称他们为猪或近亲繁殖或类似的东西。”以色列裔美国人委员会(IAC)在向福克斯新闻数字版的声明中谴责了派克的言论。
"But, you know, I think that a lot of people feel this way," Piker added. "A lot of people get very frustrated. It's never directed at someone for their actual background. It's usually their actions or their belief system. And almost all the time, it's their reactionary belief system that causes me to call them a pig or inbred or something like that." The Israeli-American Council (IAC) condemned Piker's comments in a statement to Fox News Digital.
“犹太人知道当仇恨变得可以接受时会发生什么,”该组织表示。“历史上,屠杀和迫害一直是由将犹太人描绘成低于人类的谎言所煽动的。大屠杀向世界展示了系统性地非人化犹太人可能导致的后果。
"The Jewish people know what happens when hatred becomes acceptable," the group said. "Throughout history, pogroms and persecution were fueled by lies that portrayed Jews as less than human. The Holocaust showed the world where the systematic dehumanization of Jews can lead.
“2023年10月7日,哈马斯犯下了大规模谋杀、大规模强奸、大规模酷刑和大规模劫持人质的罪行,这是自大屠杀以来对我们人民最致命的屠杀,”IAC声明补充道。“对我们而言,反犹太主义仇恨的后果不是一个抽象的争论。”福克斯新闻数字版联系了派克以求置评,但未能立即获得回应。
"On October 7, 2023, Hamas perpetrated mass murder, mass rape, mass torture, and mass hostage taking in the deadliest massacre of our people since the Holocaust," the IAC statement added. "For us, the consequences of antisemitic hatred are not an abstract debate." Fox News Digital reached out to Piker for comment but did not immediately receive a response.

哈桑·派克坚持其“故意挑衅”的主张,即哈马斯“是以色列的一千倍更好”。今年1月,派克因使用“锡安主义猪”这一短语而在Twitch被封禁七天,他多次批评锡安主义和以色列。
HASAN PIKER STANDS BY 'INTENTIONALLY PROVOCATIVE' CLAIMS THAT HAMAS IS 'A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER' THAN ISRAEL In January, Piker was banned from Twitch for seven days for using the phrase "Zionist pig" and has repeatedly criticized Zionism and Israel.
尽管他曾为多名民主党候选人助选,但一些民主党人在八月与他保持距离,原因是他在警告美国犹太人称,如果他们继续支持以色列,可能会面临暴力。
Though he has campaigned with several Democratic candidates, some Democrats distanced themselves from Piker in August after he warned American Jews that they could face violence if they continued to support Israel.