乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基警告称，美国正式站在俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京一边将是一个“历史性错误”，但他表示，尽管一系列举动令乌克兰及其在国会山的朋友感到不安，他仍视美国总统唐纳德·特朗普为盟友。“我们想要信任他，”泽连斯基周日在接受NBC新闻《与 prensa 会面》节目采访时说，指的是特朗普。
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has warned that the U.S. formally siding with Russia’s Vladimir Putin would be a “historic mistake,” but said he still sees President Donald Trump as an ally despite a series of moves that have unsettled his country and its friends on Capitol Hill. “We want to trust him,” Zelenskyy told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday, referring to Trump.
“我希望他能改变自己的决定，因为我认为这些都是错误的，这既不会帮助我们，也不会帮助美国。”特朗普周五豁免了国会通过的对俄罗斯的广泛新制裁，称在一项行政命令中，这一举措“符合美国的国家利益”。该制裁在上个月获得两党支持并由特朗普签署通过，旨在通过惩罚全球俄罗斯石油和天然气买家来打击俄罗斯的收入来源。
“I hope that he will change his decisions, because I think that it’s all mistakes, and it will not help us, and it will not help United States.”Trump on Friday waived sweeping new sanctions against Russia passed by Congress, saying in an executive order that the move “is in the national interests of the United States.”Passed with bipartisan support and signed by Trump last month, the sanctions were intended to target Russia’s revenue streams by punishing global buyers of Russian oil and gas.
豁免是在与普京达成协议后几天作出的，该协议旨在将数十万吨俄罗斯柴油释放到全球市场，因为燃料价格飙升。与此同时，泽连斯基表示，美国的情报共享曾短暂被“阻断”，使乌克兰对来袭的弹道导致失明，而对星链（Starlink）技术的限制也已实施，该技术对拦截喷气式无人机至关重要。泽连斯基告诉主持人克里斯滕·韦尔克，乌克兰官员认为，对星链的限制是由埃隆·马斯克的SpaceX施加的，这是对“美国政府信息”的回应。
The waiver came days after a deal with Putin to release hundreds of thousands of tons of Russian diesel fuel onto the global market as fuel prices soar. At the same time, Zelenskyy said, U.S. intelligence sharing was briefly “blocked,” blinding Ukraine to incoming ballistic missiles, while limits have been placed on Starlink technology critical to intercept jet-powered drones. Zelenskyy told moderator Kristen Welker that Ukrainian officials believe the decision to limit Starlink, imposed by Elon Musk’s SpaceX, came in response to a “message from American government.”
特朗普与泽连斯基的个人关系在最近几周也出现了明显紧张，双方都公开批评对方。当被问及特朗普本周称乌克兰领导人“比普京更难应付”时，泽连斯基说他对特朗普“非常坦诚”。“也许这不太礼貌，”他说，但“拥有非常坦率和清晰的伙伴，比拥有那些即使面带笑容也是杀手的人更好。”泽连斯基，他曾指责美国。
Personal relations between Trump and Zelenskyy have also appeared severely strained in recent weeks, with each offering public criticisms of the other. Asked about Trump’s remark this week that the Ukrainian leader was “more difficult to deal with than Putin,” Zelenskyy said he was “very honest” with Trump. “Maybe it’s not very polite,” he said, but it is “better to have partners who are very open and clear than to have those who are killers, even with a smile on their face.”
泽连斯基上周曾指责特朗普背叛基辅，表示他的感受没有改变。他警告说，特朗普与俄罗斯的协议“将增强普京占领我们的意愿”。上周特朗普宣布与普京达成柴油协议时，他表示希望这能在一定程度上缓解飙升的燃油成本。但泽连斯基表示，该协议不会对美国的油价产生“真正影响”，因为油价上涨是霍尔木兹海峡被封锁所致，而非乌克兰的问题。
Zelenskyy, who accused the U.S. of betraying Kyiv last week, said that his feelings have not changed. He warned that Trump’s deal with Russia “will strengthen Putin in his will to occupy us.”Announcing his diesel deal with Putin last week, Trump expressed hopes that it would go some way to address soaring fuel costs. But Zelenskyy said the deal wouldn’t have “a real influence” on the price of oil in the U.S. because that the rising prices were due to the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz, not Ukraine.
“我不知道特朗普总统为何做出此类交易的全部原因，”他说。关于美国可能更正式地站在俄罗斯一边的前景，他说：“如果这两个国家真的走到一起……我们将无法取胜，也无法站稳脚跟。”泽连斯基表示，特朗普在一项以已故参议员林赛·格雷厄姆（R-S.C.）命名的法案中豁免制裁是件“遗憾”的事，他称格雷厄姆是“和平和乌克兰的坚定支持者”。
“I don’t know all the reasons why President Trump makes such deals,” he said. Of the prospect of the U.S. more formally siding with Russia, he said: “If these two countries will be together ... we will not prevail, and we will not be able to stand.”Zelenskyy said it was a “pity” Trump had waived the sanctions in a bill named for the late Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who he said was “a great supporter of peace and of Ukraine.”
“他倾注生命和时间，是因为他真的相信乌克兰，”他说。泽连斯基表示，他计划在周日稍后通过电话与美国谈判代表通话，并且仍希望在未来几天举行会面。“即使面对所有艰难处境，我也对此持开放态度，”他说。他提到，在美方关于来袭俄罗斯弹道导弹的情报中断多日后，现在已取得一些进展，他表示情报共享现已“解除封锁”。
“He invested his life and time because he really believed in Ukraine,” he said. Zelenskyy said he was due to speak to U.S. negotiators by phone later Sunday and was still hopeful of a meeting in the days ahead. “I’m very open for this, even with all the difficult circumstances,” he said. He cited some progress after a multiday interruption to U.S. intelligence about incoming Russian ballistic missiles, which he said has now been “deblocked.”
“我们对此深表感激，”他说。“现在它恢复了正常运作。”此前，欧洲和乌克兰官员曾告诉NBC新闻，他们认为限制情报共享的举措——发生在特朗普对俄罗斯放宽制裁仅几天之后——很可能是为了在和平谈判陷入僵局时，施压基辅在谈判桌上做出让步。虽然泽连斯基表示情报问题已经得到解决，但他指出，乌克兰仍在面临对其使用星盾（Starlink的军用版）的持续速度限制。
“We are very thankful for this,” he said. “Now it works.”European and Ukrainian officials previously told NBC News they believed that a move to limit sharing intelligence, coming only days after Trump eased sanctions on Russia, were most likely aimed at pressuring Kyiv into making concessions at the negotiating table amid a stalemate in peace talks. While Zelenskyy indicated that the intelligence problem has been resolved, he said that Ukraine was still facing an ongoing speed restriction on its use of Starshield, the military version of the Starlink service.
当被问及他对特朗普或马斯克是否直接作出限制星链的决定时，泽连斯基表示他不知道，但认为“两者”都有参与。他说，如果特朗普明天决定解除限制，“它将立即恢复到之前的状态”。
Asked if he thought Trump or Musk had directly made the decision to limit Starlink, Zelenskyy said that he didn’t know but thought “both” were involved. He said that if Trump decided tomorrow to lift the restriction, “it will immediately work as it was before.”