共和党众议员迈克·弗洛德谈及中期选举、生活成本、对俄罗斯的制裁豁免以及伊朗战争。>> 我知道你一直在与你的选民交谈，向他们阐述你的立场。显然，你的选区深深植根于农业。你曾表示你一直在讨论农业法案。你说农业不仅仅是内布拉斯加州的第一经济引擎。它是我们是谁、我们做什么的核心。在第一国会选区。
GOP Rep. Mike Flood talks midterms, cost of living, a Russian sanction waiver and the war in Iran UNDERSTANDING AND THEY WILL BE OUT TOGETHER WITH THE INDEPENDENTS AND THE DEMOCRATS, TO VOTE ON ELECTION DAY. >> AND I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING TO A LOT OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS YOU MAKE YOUR CASE TO THEM. UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOUR DISTRICT IS VERY ROOTED IN AGRICULTURE. YOU'VE SAID YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FARM BILL. YOU SAID AGRICULTURE ISN'T JUST NEBRASKA'S NUMBER ONE ECONOMIC DRIVER. IT'S THE HEART OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO. IN THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
我们也知道，如今柴油价格比伊朗战争开始前高出近3美元。这对农民来说很难承受，他们试图计算所有这些成本，而这些关税对农民造成了严重影响。你在告诉他们什么？>> 显然，价格太高了。今天我从林肯开车两个小时到内布拉斯加州的诺福克。我看见大家都在田里工作。我们将迎来丰收。我们将拥有优质的大豆。
AND WE KNOW THAT DIESEL PRICES ARE NOW, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $3 MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE IRAN WAR. THAT'S HARD FOR FARMERS TO TRY TO ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THAT, THAT THESE TARIFFS HAVE BEEN HARD ON FARMERS. WHAT ARE YOU TELLING THEM? >> WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE PRICES ARE TOO HIGH. AND I CAME I DROVE TWO HOURS TODAY FROM LINCOLN TO NORFOLK, NEBRASKA. AND I SAW EVERYBODY WAS OUT IN THE FIELD. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT CROP. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GREAT BEANS.
自今年1月1日起，我们的大豆价格已上涨24%。仅在第一选区就有两家大豆压榨厂，这正在推动价格上涨。我们将迎来丰收的季节。至于柴油价格，是啊，它们太高了。这就是我为什么支持我们州长和总统放宽对红色柴油税的限制，以尽我们所能将价格降下来。听着，这个州的农民以及农场局——这是代表玉米和大豆农民、牛肉生产者的最大、最受尊敬的组织——他们已经完全支持我。
OUR SOYBEAN PRICES ARE UP 24% SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, JANUARY 1st. WE HAVE TWO SOYBEAN CRUSH PLANTS JUST IN THE FIRST DISTRICT ALONE, WHICH IS PUSHING UP PRICING. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOUNTIFUL HARVEST. UH, AS FOR THE DIESEL PRICES, YEAH, THEY'RE TOO HIGH. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED BOTH OUR GOVERNOR AND THE PRESIDENT BACKING OFF ON THE, UH, THE RED DYE DIESEL TAXES TO DO ANYTHING WE CAN TO BRING THAT PRICE DOWN. UH, LISTEN, THE FARMERS IN THIS STATE AND THE FARM BUREAU, WHICH IS THE LARGEST, MOST RESPECTED ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING CORN AND BEAN FARMERS, BEEF PRODUCERS, THEY HAVE GIVEN ME THEIR SOLE ENDORSEMENT. THEY HAVE BEEN WITH ME SINCE THE BEGINNING. THEY KNOW THAT IN THE HOUSE WE PASSED A FARM BILL WITH YEAR ROUND E15, MORE PRICE SUPPORTS FOR FARMERS AND A SAFETY NET THAT'S BIGGER THAN ANYTHING WE'VE EVER HAD.
他们自一开始就一直站在我这边。他们知道，在众议院我们通过了一项农业法案，其中包含全年E15、对农民更多的价格支持以及一个比我们曾经拥有的任何安全网都更大的安全网。我们希望价格能够下降。我们也希望我们产品的价格能够上涨。
UH, WE WANT THE PRICES TO COME DOWN. WE ALSO WANT THE PRICES FOR OUR PRODUCTS TO GO UP. AND WE'RE SEEING THAT THE PRESIDENT RECENTLY LANDED A DEAL WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION, WHERE THEY PUT A 15% TARIFF ON THEIR PRODUCTS AND A 0% TARIFF ON OURS. AND THAT'S OUR FOURTH LARGEST TRADING PARTNER. SO THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS OUT THERE. THERE IS PROGRESS, A LOT MORE PROGRESS THAN WE SAW UNDER JOE BIDEN. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WE WILL GET THERE.
我们看到，总统最近与欧盟达成了一项协议，他们对本国产品征收15%的关税，而对我们的产品则征收0%的关税。而欧盟是我们第四大贸易伙伴。所以这里确实有一些好消息。我们正在取得进展，而且比拜登政府时期取得的进展要多得多。这需要一些时间，但我们最终会实现目标。
WHAT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S MOVE ON WAIVING THESE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN FOSSIL FUEL SALES? SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT DOES CIRCLE ALL THE WAY BACK. HE HE SAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, HE WANTS TO RELEASE SOME DIESEL. UM, EXPERTS HAVE SAID THAT THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE RELEASED WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 15 HOURS OF CONSUMPTION FOR THE U.S.. SO IT'S VERY MINIMAL. BUT DO YOU SUPPORT HIS DECISION TO WAIVE THESE SANCTIONS? >> NO, I DON'T, AND HERE'S WHY. ANY DOLLAR THAT GOES INTO THAT THUG'S POCKET OVER IN MOSCOW ENDS UP POTENTIALLY HELPING IRAN. AND WE'RE IN AN ACTIVE CONFLICT WITH THEM OR HURTING OUR ALLIES IN UKRAINE, WHERE I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE U.S., ASSISTING UKRAINE AND BACKING UP OUR FRIENDS IN THE NATO ALLIANCE. UH, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S IN OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. AND SO I BREAK WITH HIM THERE. I HAVE SAID THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO KEEP THE FOCUS ON ENDING, UH, IRAN'S ABILITY TO CHANT DEATH TO AMERICA AND BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND HELP OUR ALLIES OVER IN UKRAINE AS THEY DEAL WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN, WHO'S DONE AND SUPPORTED ATROCITIES AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE.
那么，总统关于豁免对俄罗斯化石燃料销售制裁的举措呢？你知道，这实际上又回到了原点。他说，嗯，你知道，他想释放一些柴油。嗯，专家表示，释放的量可能只相当于美国大约15小时的消耗量。所以这其实微不足道。但你支持他豁免这些制裁的决定吗？>> 不，我不支持，原因如下。任何进入莫斯科这个恶棍口袋里的美元，最终都可能有助于伊朗。而我们目前正与伊朗处于活跃冲突之中，或者是在伤害我们在乌克兰的盟友——我一直支持美国援助乌克兰，并支持我们在北约联盟中的朋友。呃，我认为这不符合我们国家的利益。因此，我在这一点上与他分道扬镳。我从一开始就一直这样说。我相信我们需要把重点放在终结呃，伊朗对美国喊叫“死亡”的能力上，并且能够采取行动来应对，同时在乌克兰帮助我们的盟友，因为他们正面对弗拉基米尔·普京——这个人对乌克兰人民实施并支持了暴行。
AND I HEAR YOU ON PUTIN. UM, THE MOVES THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE RECENTLY, THOUGH, YOU KNOW, EMBOLDENS PUTIN. IT GIVES HIM BENEFITS. IF THIS IS TO GO THROUGH, IF HE'S ALLOWED TO SELL OIL GLOBALLY, THAT COULD BE A BOON FOR FOR RUSSIA. DOESN'T THAT WORRY YOU? A LOT OF THIS.
我听到了你对普京的看法。嗯，尽管总统最近的举措可能……你知道，这实际上是在鼓舞普京。这给他带来了好处。如果这件事得以推进，如果他被允许在全球范围内出售石油，这可能会对俄罗斯构成巨大利好。难道这不会让你担心吗？这其中有很多方面。
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS CAME OUT FRIDAY. A LOT OF THIS HAPPENED ON FRIDAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS WE START THE WORKWEEK TOMORROW, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE THE WHITE HOUSE IS. BUT JUST ON ITS FACE WHEN YOU ASK ME, DO I THINK ALLOWING PUTIN TO SELL DIESEL WITHOUT THE THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE HAD ON HIM IS A GOOD THING. I DON'T WANT HIM TO HAVE MORE RESOURCES. I DON'T WANT HIM TO HELP IRAN. I DON'T WANT HIM TO CONTINUE HIS PURGE AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE. THAT'S NOT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M UP TO FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT QUITE FRANKLY, UH, IT'S SUNDAY NIGHT. MONDAY WILL COME AND WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING ON THIS. >> AND YOU MENTIONED IRAN. UM, THE WAR IN IRAN IS, IS DIRECTLY CORRELATED TO RISING GAS PRICES, RISING DIESEL PRICES. DO YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT THE U.S.
您知道，很多事情是在周五爆出来的。很多事情发生在周五。我们将在明天开始工作周时，有机会更好地了解白宫的立场。但仅从表面来看，当您问我时，我认为允许普京在我们过去对其施加的限制之外出售柴油是件好事吗？我不希望他拥有更多资源。我不希望他帮助伊朗。我不希望他继续对乌克兰人民进行清洗。这不是。
SHOULD BE ENGAGED IN THAT WAR? >> WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT BECAUSE IRAN IS FUNDING THE HOUTHIS, THE HOUTHIS ARE, UH, ENGAGING IN YEMEN, AND SAUDI ARABIA IS INVOLVED. AND THERE'S ANOTHER PRESSURE POINT THERE. PLUS, YOU'VE GOT UKRAINE HITTING RUSSIAN REFINERIES. THIS ISN'T JUST A ONE. COUNTRIES AT THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM.
而且，您知道，我想进一步了解正在发生的事情。但坦率地说，呃，现在是周日晚上。周一将会到来，我们将有机会更好地了解在这件事上的发展方向。>> 您提到了伊朗。嗯，伊朗的战争，与油价上涨、柴油价格上涨直接相关。您仍然相信美国……应该参与这场战争吗？嗯，实际上比这更复杂，因为伊朗正在资助胡塞武装，胡塞武装正在也门参与冲突，沙特阿拉伯也卷入其中。
THE PROBLEM IS COMPLEX. IT'S IN COUNTRIES LIKE SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN, IT'S IN IRAN, IT'S IN UKRAINE. IT INVOLVES RUSSIA. WE HAVE AN UNSTABLE WORLD RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE WE HAVE NATION STATES THAT SUPPORT TERRORISM.
还有另一个压力点。此外，乌克兰正在袭击俄罗斯的炼油厂。这不仅仅是一个问题。问题的核心国家。问题很复杂。它存在于沙特阿拉伯、也门这样的国家，也存在于伊朗，也存在于乌克兰。它涉及俄罗斯。我们现在正处于一个动荡的世界。我们有支持恐怖主义的民族国家。你知道的，你可能会找到一种简单的方法来或许平息这场冲突，但这并不意味着这种情况不会在两周后再次发生。
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD YOU COULD FIND AN EASY WAY TO MAYBE CALM THIS CONFLICT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS. WE'RE DEALING WITH A BUNCH OF FOLKS IN IRAN THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY MERCENARIES FOR THEIR CAUSE. I MEAN, WE TOOK OUT THEIR ENTIRE ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERSHIP SYSTEM EARLIER IN THE YEAR, MORE SO MAYBE THE ISRAELIS DID.
我们正在处理一群伊朗人，他们基本上是为他们的事业而战的雇佣兵。我的意思是，我们今年早些时候就已经彻底摧毁了他们的整个组织领导体系，也许更多的是以色列人做到了这一点。他们还有，嗯，一些人站出来继续这种，嗯，这种恐怖，嗯，伊朗想要对世界造成的恐怖。所以这并不像仅仅说“关闭与伊朗的关系”那样简单。你这里有很多不同的参与者，他们决心要给美国人民带来痛苦，他们
AND THEY HAD, UH, PEOPLE STEP RIGHT UP TO CONTINUE THIS, UH, THIS TERROR, UH, THAT IRAN WANTS TO INFLICT ON THE WORLD. SO IT'S NOT AS EASY AS JUST SAYING, SHUT THINGS DOWN WITH IRAN. YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLAYERS IN HERE THAT ARE HELL BENT ON CAUSING PAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND THEY