CNBC现已开始接受2027年“变革者榜单”的提名。Cloudflare表示，其每天监测到2340亿次网络威胁，这家市值1000亿美元的网络安全公司正以更精简的团队应对这一冲击。
CNBC is now accepting__nominations__for the 2027 Changemakers List. Cloudflare says it sees 234 billion cyberthreats each day, and the $100 billion cybersecurity company is facing the onslaught with a leaner company.
Cloudflare去年5月裁减了约20%的员工，并明确提到人工智能是原因之一，财务、营收运营、营销运营和招聘等部门受到的冲击尤为严重，有些岗位甚至从多达四个职位骤然缩减为一个。人工智能在核心网络安全运营中的作用也将变得更加普遍。据Cloudflare联合创始人、总裁兼首席运营官米歇尔·扎特林预计，五年内，95%的网络安全工作将由人工智能处理。
Cloudflare laid off roughly 20% of its workers last May, citing artificial intelligence specifically, with hits coming hard in areas including finance, revenue operations, marketing operations and recruiting, where as many as four roles were suddenly whittled down to one. The role of AI is going to become more pervasive across core cybersecurity operations, too. According to Cloudflare co-founder, president and chief operating officer Michelle Zatlyn, within five years she expects 95% of cybersecurity to be handled by AI.
扎特林在最新一期“CNBC变革者”播客中对CNBC的朱莉娅·布尔斯廷表示，这2340亿次攻击“让你感受到互联网的疯狂程度”。短期内，安全环境还将进一步恶化。“情况会非常嘈杂，”她说。
The 234 billion attacks “just gives you a sense for the craziness of the internet,” Zatlyn told CNBC’s Julia Boorstin in the latest episode of the “CNBC Changemakers” podcast. In the short term, the security environment will get worse yet. “It’s going to be very noisy,” she said.
但扎特林预计，五年内多达95%的攻击将由人工智能处理。“我们会走到这样一个阶段：情况会好得多，因为代码最终将实现设计即安全，这样你就不必在事后担心所有这些事情，安全将更多地嵌入一切之中，对企业和个人来说都会更加安全……但我们必须从这里走到那里，”她说。
But within five years, Zatlyn expects that as much as 95% of attacks will be handled by AI. “We’re going to get to a point where things will be much better because finally code will be secure by design, so that you don’t have to worry about all this stuff after the fact, and it’ll just be more embedded in everything, and it’ll just be more safe for both every businesses and people. ... But we’ve got to get from here to there,” she said.
Cloudflare正在重新思考“工厂车间”——扎特林用这个词来形容重新评估劳动力和工作场所在人工智能未来应呈现何种面貌的过程——对于希望在网络安全及其他领域发展职业生涯的人，她给出了两个词的建议：构建和销售。
As Cloudflare rethinks the “factory floor” — as Zatlyn called the process of reevaluating what the workforce and workplace should look like for the AI future — she has two words of advice for those seeking careers in cybersecurity and beyond: build and sell.
“构建是一个非常值得投入的方向，”扎特林说。“我们的销售人员，我认为业务仍然是在人际关系之间完成的，所以这一点非常值得投资，”她补充道。
“Building is a really good one to lean into,” Zatlyn said. “Our sellers, I think the business still continues to get done between relationships, and so that’s really important to invest in,” she added.
Cloudflare 继续招聘这些构建和销售岗位，并在这些岗位上投入资源，Zatlyn 表示，她补充说，组织内部也更加关注“部分连接组织的纽带”，即能够连接这些职能的员工。“也许这是一个你自己也可以使用的框架，”她说。
Cloudflare continues to hire for these building and selling roles and invest in these roles, Zatlyn said, and she added there is also more focus on “some of the connective tissue” within the organization, the workers who can bridge these functions. “And maybe that’s a framework you can use yourself,” she said.
在 AI 正在改变经济各个领域企业运营的世界里，工程岗位更多地模糊为销售岗位，反之亦然，例如通过全球最大的 AI 公司（包括 AWS、Anthropic 和 OpenAI）现在所谓的“前沿部署工程师”这一角色的开发。“> 我认为我们所有人既是构建者又是销售者，这在未来十年将变得非常重要。”
In a world where AI is transforming operations across enterprises in every sector of the economy, engineering roles are more often blurring into selling roles and vice versa, such as through the development of what the biggest AI firms in the world, including AWS, Anthropic and OpenAI, now call “forward deployed engineers.” > I think all of us being builders and sellers is what’s going to be really important in the next decade.
在经历了几十年许多学生被引导进入软件开发和网络安全领域，视其为稳妥职业机会之后，目前仍有充分理由对这些领域的就业前景保持担忧。已有研究显示，22 至 25 岁软件开发人员数量大幅下降，高度暴露于 AI 影响的职业也出现更广泛的冲击。但 Zatlyn 表示，面对 AI 时代职场感到恐惧的学生应该转变思路，认为自己职业生涯早期正值“一切都在变革”，这反而是幸运的。
There is plenty of reason to remain concerned about jobs in software development and cybersecurity after a few decades during which many students were pushed towards these fields as sure-fire professional career opportunities. There is alreadyresearch indicating a steep decline for software developers ages 22-25 and broader effects in highly AI-exposed occupations. But Zatlyn says students dreading the workforce in the AI era should flip the script and consider themselves lucky that they are early in their career path as “everything is shifting.”
她还说，在 Cloudflare 内部，构建者和销售者依然“强劲”。这是公司在实习生项目中一直强调的员工发展和学习模式，预计今年实习生人数将超过 1100 人——约占这家不足 5000 人公司的 25%，也是公司历史上实习生人数最多的一年。
And within Cloudflare, she says, the builders and the sellers remain “powerful.”It’s a model of worker development and learning that the company has been stressing in its internship program, which is expected to reach over 1,100 workers this year — roughly equal to 25% of the under-5,000-person company, and the most interns the company has ever had.
“这种‘做建设者’的理念是正确的思考方式。无论你是采用‘氛围编程’，还是你本身就是工程师，我认为这两种情况都将继续存在。但你如何构建产品？如何亲自交付产品，而不是指挥他人或让别人去做？”
“This idea of being a builder is the right way to think about it. Whether you’re using vibe coding or you’re actually the engineer, I think both of those will continue to exist. But how do you build something? How do you ship something instead of directing or letting someone else do it?”
“哪怕只是原型，甚至只是用来展示进展的‘版本一’。然后我们会以更具运营性的方式将其扩大规模。你不必事必躬亲，但我认为，那些建设者、实干家，才是最终表现出色的人，”她说。“他们在学习、在交付、在贡献，这是一个非常积极的飞轮效应，”她谈到2026届实习生时说道。
“Even if it’s just the prototype or even the ‘Version One’ to show traction. Then we’re going to scale it up in a more operational way. You don’t have to do everything, but I think that the builders, the doers, are the ones who do really well,” she said. “They’re learning, they’re shipping, they’re contributing, and it’s this really positive flywheel,” she said of the 2026 interns.
在Cloudflare看来，最终在职场中拥有“最大主人翁感”的，将是那些亲手构建产品的人。
In Cloudflare’s view, it is the people who build that will end up with “the most ownership” in the workforce.
“他们会最积极。他们也几乎会成为最优秀的销售者。如果你从事销售工作，你越能贴近产品构建，效果就越好。因此我认为，我们所有人既是建设者又是销售者，这在未来十年将变得至关重要，”Zatlyn表示。_关注并
“They’re going to be the most positive. They’re going to be almost the best sellers too. And if you’re in the business of selling something, the more you can get closer to building things, the better. And so I think all of us being builders and sellers is what’s going to be really important in the next decade,” Zatlyn said. _Follow and