民主党人托尼·科济基将在即将到来的11月中期选举中角逐佐治亚州第七国会选区的席位，他向选民传递了一个简单的信息：看人，不看党。这位退伍军人兼移民律师正在挑战共和党人里奇·麦考密克。在接受Hm独家专访时，他谈到了对手、伊朗战争、政治以及他的家庭生活。
Tony Kozycki, a Democrat running for Congress in Georgia’s 7th District in the upcoming November midterms, has a simple message for voters: look at the person, not the party. The combat veteran and immigration lawyer is challenging Republican Rich McCormick. In an exclusive interview with Hm, he spoke about his rival, the Iran war, politics and his life at home.
谈到给选民的信息，科济基说：“看看他们是谁。看看他们在告诉你什么，现在真正根据人来投票，而不是根据党派。”科济基的家庭如何塑造了他的从政之路科济基表示，他原本没有准备好参选。“老实说，我觉得如果我没有介入戈德弗雷的案子，我现在正在教我儿子打棒球呢，”他说。他甚至暂停了在哈佛肯尼迪学院的公共领导力课程以投身竞选。
Speaking about his message to voters, Kozycki said, “Look who they are. Look what they’re telling you and actually vote on people and not party right now.”How Kozycki’s family shaped his path to politicsKozycki said he was not ready for this. “Honestly, I think if I didn’t get involved in Godfrey’s case, I’d be coaching my son’s baseball team right now,” he said. He had even paused a public leadership course at the Harvard Kennedy School to run.
他说，他的故事始于母亲。据科济基介绍，母亲是一名波多黎各女孩，在充满偏见和种族歧视的年代于纽约市中心长大。她后来参了美国陆军。他说，她是最早率领部队在朝鲜非军事区服役的女性之一。
He said his story starts with his mother. According to Kozycki, she was a Puerto Rican girl who grew up in inner-city New York at a time of bias and racism. She later joined the US Army. He said she was one of the first women to lead troops on the demilitarized zone in Korea.
退伍后，她在科济基上小学时去读了法学院。据科济基说，那些年很艰难，全家需要政府援助。
After leaving the Army, she went to law school while he was in elementary school. Those years were hard, according to Kozycki, and the family needed government help.
随后全家搬到了佐治亚州的小镇拉格朗日，母亲成为了一名公设辩护人。科济基说，她为请不起律师的人辩护。“当我们走进杂货店，看到柜台后的人认出我妈妈是谁时，那意义非凡，”他说。
The family then moved to LaGrange, a small town in Georgia, where his mother became a public defender. Kozycki said she defended people who could not afford a lawyer. “When we walked into the grocery store and you saw the folks behind the counter know who mom was, it meant so much,” he said.
科济基说，母亲鼓励他参军。他进入美国海军学院并在军队服役。之后，他读了法学院，并与同样是律师的母亲和妻子在亚特兰大创办了一家小型律师事务所。他们的事务所主要处理移民案件。
Kozycki said his mother encouraged him to join the military. He went to the US Naval Academy and served in the military. After that, he went to law school and started a small law firm in Atlanta with his mother and his wife, who are both attorneys. Their firm does a lot of immigration work.
他也是两个孩子的父亲，孩子分别9岁和12岁。约翰·豪厄同意特朗普在这个敏感议题上的立场，堪萨斯州自由意志党人为国会中期选举做准备推动他的案件科济基说，转折点是戈德弗雷·韦德的案件，他是一位同为退伍军人的战友。据报道，韦德是美国陆军退伍军人，因近20年前一张空头支票，于2月在上诉仍在进行时被驱逐到牙买加。
He is also a father of two, aged 9 and 12. John Hauer agrees with Trump on this hot-button issue as Kansas Libertarian gears up for midterm Congress raceThe case that pushed himKozycki said the turning point was the case of Godfrey Wade, a fellow veteran. According to reports, Wade is a US Army veteran who was deported to Jamaica in February over a bounced cheque from almost 20 years ago, while his appeal was still going onKozycki said he reached out to his own congressman, expecting help.
科济基说，他联系了自己的国会议员，期望得到帮助。“我想，是啊，我们都是退伍军人。咱们把这事解决了，”他说。
“I thought, yeah, we’re all military veterans. Let’s fix this,” he said.
事情并没有那样发展。“起码，我指望他尝试一下，或者至少装装样子关心一下，”他说。据科济基说，他周复一周、月复一月地与议员办公室沟通，对方一直说不感兴趣。
That did not happen. “At the very least, I expected him to try or at least pretend to care,” he said. According to Kozycki, he kept speaking to the office week after week and month after month, and they kept saying they were not interested.
他说，挫败感积累得太多了。他开始跟妻子谈论需要“换个不同的人”。接着他自问：“如果我不想自己去做，凭什么指望别人去做？”他说。于是，他和妻子决定要在“更大范围”内做这项工作。
He said the frustration became too much. He started talking to his wife about needing “somebody different”. Then he asked himself a question. “If I don’t want to do it myself, then why would anybody do it?” he said.
印第安纳州候选人杰米·韦斯特承认在针对“让美国再次伟大”运动的病毒式愤怒发言之前喝过酒：“我喝了3瓶啤酒”他对对手里奇·麦考米克的评价科济基说，麦考米克不了解选区民众。“我要挑战的这个人，里奇·麦考米克，他不代表这个选区，”他说。
And then, he and his wife decided they needed to do this work “on a bigger scale”.Indiana candidate Jaime West admits to drinking before viral rant against MAGA: ‘I had 3 beers’What he says about his opponent Rich McCormickKozycki said McCormick does not know the people of the district. “The guy that I’m challenging, Rich McCormick, he doesn’t represent this district,” he said.
据科济基说，麦考米克主要谈论边境安全，仿佛科济基主张开放边境。科济基说这不属实。“我认为我们需要安全的边境，”他说。他还说，如果法律要求，危险的非公民罪犯应当被驱逐。
According to Kozycki, McCormick talks mostly about border security, as if Kozycki wants open borders. Kozycki said that is not true. “I think we need secure borders,” he said. He also said dangerous criminals who are not citizens should be removed if the law requires it.
但科济基说，麦考米克忽略了一点：法律也规定人们必须获得公正听证。他说，像戈德弗雷·韦德这样的人有权享有“正当程序”和“法治”。
But Kozycki said McCormick misses one point: the law also says people must get a fair hearing. He said someone like Godfrey Wade is entitled to “due process” and “the rule of law”.Kozycki also said McCormick has no real answers for voters.
科济基还说，麦考米克对选民没有真正的答案。据他说，麦考米克唯一的回应就是骂他是共产主义者。
According to him, McCormick’s only reply is to call him a communist.
“他只是想吓唬你，让你觉得我是共产党员，”科齐茨基说。他以自己的履历作为回应。“我为这个国家参加过三场战争。我是一家小企业的老板，”他说。科齐茨基还说，大科技公司正在资助麦考密克的竞选活动，因此麦考密克不听取人们关于数据中心的意见。据他说，社区并非反对数据中心，只是想要一笔公平的交易。
“He just wants to scare you into thinking that I’m a communist,” Kozycki said. He pointed to his own record in reply. “I fought in three wars for this country. I’m a small business owner,” he said. Kozycki also said big tech is funding McCormick’s campaign, so McCormick does not listen to people on data centers. As per him, the community is not against data centers, it only wants a fair deal.
科齐茨基还说：“里奇·麦考密克存在严重的品格缺陷。”他声称麦考密克有过婚外情，并且“经历过几段婚姻”。他还说，麦考密克与唐纳德·特朗普和斯蒂芬·米勒关系密切，而米勒对美国人应该是什么样子的看法是“一种白人民族主义的想法”。本媒体无法独立核实这些说法。关于科齐茨基所说的民调数字据科齐茨基称，他竞选团队的民调显示，麦考密克支持率为46%，他为43%。
Kozycki also said, “Rich McCormick has had serious character flaws". He alleged that McCormick has had affairs and “has gone through several wives”. He also said McCormick is tied closely to Donald Trump and Stephen Miller, and that Miller’s idea of how an American should look is “a white nationalist idea”.Hm could not independently verify these claims. What Kozycki says about the poll numbersAccording to Kozycki, his campaign’s poll shows McCormick at 46 per cent and him at 43 per cent.
科齐茨基说，这些数字让他充满希望。“如果我们能把信息传递给选民，我认为这就是它所显示的。我们可以赢得这场竞选，”他说。他说，一年前这个席位还不被认为会如此接近。他还说，麦考密克把选民视为理所当然。“麦考密克甚至都没有在竞选。他说他将以两位数的优势击败我，”他说。据科齐茨基称，一位领导人必须每两年回来一次，争取选票。
Kozycki said the numbers give him hope. “If we can get our message in front of voters, I think that’s what it shows. We can win this race,” he said. He said the seat was not seen as close a year ago. He also said McCormick is taking voters for granted. “McCormick isn’t even campaigning. He’s saying he’s going to beat me by double digits,” he said. According to Kozycki, a leader has to come back every two years and earn the vote.
随后他做出了一个预测。“我认为，在11月4日里奇·麦考密克失去工作时，这将是一个巨大的震惊，”他说。科齐茨基对伊朗战争的看法科齐茨基说，伊朗战争代价高昂，但金钱不是他主要担心的。“这不是金钱问题。面临风险的是美国人的生命，”他说。据科齐茨基称，麦考密克希望进行地面入侵。他说，这将至少花费“另一万亿美元，因为这就是一场永无止境的战争的样子。”
Then he made a prediction. “And I think it’s going to be a big shock to Rich McCormick on November 4th when he lost his job,” he said. Kozycki's views on the Iran warKozycki said the Iran war is costly, but money is not his main worry. “It’s not dollars and cents. It’s American lives that are going to be at risk,” he said. According to Kozycki, McCormick wants a ground invasion. He said this would cost “another trillion dollars at a minimum because that’s what a forever war would look like.”
他说，这场战争让他感到个人化。他年轻时的成年生活是在中东的一场战争中度过的。“我在沙漠里参加一次Zoom通话时，看着女儿迈出了她的第一步。”
“我错过了她的第一个圣诞节，”他说。“我们不能在没有计划、没有目标、没有退出战略的情况下，就把他们扔进一场战争，”他说。
He said the war feels personal. He spent his young adult life in a war in the Middle East. “I watched my daughter’s first steps while I sat on a Zoom call in the desert. I missed her first Christmas,” he said.“We can’t throw them into a war without a plan, without objectives, and without an exit strategy,” he said.
科济基表示，美国不应发动地面入侵，而应回到其盟友身边。“美国最大的优势是我们建立的联盟，”他说。他点名印度和北约是很好的合作伙伴。
Instead of a ground invasion, Kozycki said the US should go back to its allies. “America’s greatest strength is the alliances that we’ve built,” he said. He named India and NATO as good partners.