“乌克兰的每个人都应该知道如何使用止血带，以及如何止住他人的出血，”阿纳托利说。
"Everyone in Ukraine should know how to apply a tourniquet and how to stop someone's bleeding," Anatolii says.
他对此深有体会。2022年，他是一小支守军的一员，在马里乌波尔城在他们周围沦陷的情况下，在极其不利的条件下坚持了下来。战争初期几周内，亚速钢铁厂的围城战对战场产生了深远影响。
And he would know. In 2022, he was part of a small garrison of fighters who held out against appalling odds as the city of Mariupol fell around them. The siege of the Azovstal steelworks in the opening weeks of the war had far-reaching effects on the battlefield.
守军被认为牵制了俄军，为乌克兰其他地方的部队争取了重整和补给的时间。四年后，这场战斗在乌克兰和俄罗斯仍然引发强烈共鸣。
The defenders are credited with holding up Russian troops and buying time for Ukrainian forces elsewhere to regroup and rearm. Four years later, it continues to resonate in both Ukraine and Russia.
阿纳托利于2014年首次报名参军——那一年俄罗斯夺取了克里米亚和顿巴斯部分地区——并服役至2021年，随后移居波兰。
Anatolii first signed up for Ukraine's military in 2014 - the year Russia seized Crimea and parts of the Donbas - and served until 2021, when he moved to Poland.
“全面战争爆发时，我当天就直接返回了基辅，返回了乌克兰，”他对天空新闻台表示。
"When the full-scale war began, I simply returned to Kyiv, to Ukraine, that same day," he told Sky News.
“我以为我们将不得不保卫首都，为之而战。”他加入了后来成为第三突击旅的部队，这是乌克兰最精锐的部队之一，其成员包括亚速营老兵。
"I thought we would have to defend the capital and fight for it." He joined what became the Third Assault Brigade, one of Ukraine's most elite units whose members included Azov Battalion veterans.
战争早期几周争夺首都的战斗异常惨烈。但基辅的守军知道，激烈的冲突也在全国其他地方蔓延。“在轮换休整期间，我们也在看新闻，看到马里乌波尔被包围了。
The fight to secure the capital in the early weeks of the war was fierce. But defenders in Kyiv knew that bitter conflicts raged across their country, too. "During periods of rotation, we were also watching the news and saw that Mariupol was surrounded.
“我们还议论那些家伙需要帮助，我们必须想办法突围进入马里乌波尔。”马里乌波尔位于乌克兰南部海岸，是俄军最先攻击的目标之一，俄军试图建立一条通往被占领的克里米亚的陆上走廊。
"We also talked about how the guys needed help and that somehow we needed to break through to Mariupol." Located on Ukraine's south coast, Mariupol was one of the first targets for Russian forces, who sought to establish a land bridge to occupied Crimea.
“然后，在3月底，他们开始为马里乌波尔征集人员，”阿纳托利说。志愿者最初并未被告知将执行何种任务。
"Then, towards the end of March, they started gathering people for Mariupol," Anatolii says. The volunteers weren't initially told what kind of mission it would be.
“他们只是说有机会帮助那些家伙。”但此时马里乌波尔已处于围困之中。任何行动都必须突破或以某种方式穿越俄军防线。增援马里乌波尔守军的机密任务将由直升机执行。
"They simply said there was an opportunity to help the guys." But Mariupol at this point was under siege. Any operation would have to break Russian lines or cross them somehow. The classified mission to reinforce the defenders of Mariupol was to be by helicopter.
阿纳托利和其他人抵达该市港口，并与俄军交战。他们一路战斗至亚速钢铁厂，那里聚集了该市许多守军，他们在极其不利的条件下坚守。
Anatolii and others landed at the city's port and engaged Russian forces. They fought their way to the Azovstal steelworks, where many of the city's defenders were holed up against horrific odds.
“在那场战斗中，我的腿受了伤。我被撤离到亚速钢铁厂的一个有医护人员的掩体里，他们在那里给我截了肢。”在亚速钢铁厂这个地下隧道网络中生活时，阿纳托利遇到了外科医生叶夫根·格拉西缅科，后者此前曾向天空新闻讲述过他的故事。
"I was wounded in the leg during that fighting. I was evacuated to a bunker at Azovstal where there were medics, and they amputated my leg there." Living at the Azovstal steelworks, a network of underground tunnels, Anatolii encountered surgeon Yevhen Gerasimenko, who previously told his story to Sky News.
这位被偷运进马里乌波尔的乌克兰外科医生 战斗异常惨烈，随着粮食和武器储备耗尽，战斗仍在继续。
The Ukrainian surgeon smuggled into Mariupol Fighting there was brutal and continued as stocks of food and weapons ran low.
阿纳托利等人一直坚守到2022年5月中旬，当时亚速钢铁厂守军终于在军方命令下放下武器。
Anatolii and the others remained there until the middle of May 2022, when the Azovstal garrison finally laid down their weapons under orders from military command.
“我们投降只有在总统介入、泽连斯基发表声明表示投降被俘是为了挽救生命之后。”阿纳托利被俄方俘虏。
"We surrendered only after the president intervened and Zelenskyy made a statement about surrendering into captivity in order to save lives." Anatolii was taken into Russian captivity.
“俄罗斯调查委员会的人会经常来看我们，然后联邦安全局的人也会来。他们老跟我们重复同样的谈话：‘我们很快就会释放你们。一旦谈妥一个好价钱，我们马上就把你们移交’。”他说，他在心理上已做好准备，至少要在囚禁中度过一年。他记得有两次被看守殴打。
"The Russian Investigative Committee would come to see us very often, and then the FSB would come as well. They kept having the same conversations with us: 'We'll release you soon. Once we agree on a good price, we'll hand you over straight away'." He says he mentally prepared himself to spend at least a year in captivity. He remembers two occasions when he was struck by his captors.
刚被押进去时，看守问他属于哪个部队。回答后，他说他被枪托击中了脸部。
When he was brought in, his captors asked which unit he had been in. When he answered, he says he was hit in the face with a rifle barrel.
作为一名重伤战俘，他在2022年6月29日的一次战俘交换中被送回乌克兰。他说，他在三个月里瘦了25公斤。
As a severely wounded PoW, he was returned to Ukraine in a prisoner exchange on 29 June 2022. He says he lost 25kg in three months.
但他的许多亚速钢铁厂战友至今未获释。阿纳托利现在的角色之一是“亚速钢铁厂之心”慈善倡议的大使，该倡议致力于支持亚速钢铁厂守军及其家属。
But many of his Azovstal comrades have not been released. One of Anatolii's roles now is as an ambassador for the Heart of Azovstal, a charitable initiative that works to support the Azovstal defenders and their families.
阿纳托利说：“我们的主要目标是提醒人们，马里乌波尔驻军的许多士兵仍在被俘期间。当他们被俘时，承诺的最长拘留时间是四个月。”
Anatolii said: "Our main goal is to remind people that many soldiers from the Mariupol garrison are still in captivity. When they went into captivity, they were promised a maximum of four months.
“现在他们已经被关押了五年，我们仍在不断提醒人们关注他们的情况。”世界拳王奥列克桑德尔·乌西克也呼吁释放亚速钢铁厂的防守者。据悉，俄罗斯在囚犯交换中对他们的要价尤为高昂。
"It's now the fifth year they've been there, and we continue to remind people about them." World champion boxer Oleksandr Usyk has also called for the Azovstal defenders to be released. It's thought that Russia places a particularly high price on them when it comes to prisoner exchanges.
“他们不想交换马里乌波尔驻军，因为即使在最艰难的时刻，马里乌波尔被围困时，也没有人放下武器，所有人都战斗到最后，”阿纳托利说。阿纳托利帮助刚从囚禁中归来的人员适应外界生活。
"They don't want to exchange the Mariupol garrison because even during the most difficult times, when Mariupol was surrounded, nobody laid down their weapons and everyone fought to the very end," Anatolii says. Anatolii helps people who have just returned from captivity adjust to life on the outside.
他还在居住的基辅为一支截肢足球队效力，并担任亚速军团的军事教官。“我不是在训练军人，而是训练那些考虑加入的人，”他说。
He also plays amputee football for a team in Kyiv, where he lives, as well as working as a military instructor for the Azov Corps. "I don't train military personnel, but rather people who are considering joining," he says.
“我相信乌克兰的每个人都应该知道如何使用止血带以及如何止血。因此人们会来我们这里学习这些技能。”
"I believe that everyone in Ukraine should know how to apply a tourniquet and how to stop someone's bleeding. So people come to us and learn how to do that."