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父亲称索普圣安德鲁学校袭击者“在网上被激进化”Thorpe St Andrew School attacker 'radicalised online', says dad

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武装警察在一名少女学生被另一名学生刺伤后赶往索普圣安德鲁学校(Thorpe St Andrew School)。Armed police officers were called to Thorpe St Andrew School after a teenage girl was stabbed by another pupil

这名现年16岁的男孩上周被判谋杀未遂罪名成立。庭审获悉,他怀有对女性的仇恨,痴迷于连环杀手,并计划在诺里奇附近的索普圣安德鲁学校袭击中针对其他人下手。

The boy, now 16, was found guilty of attempted murder last week after a trial heard how he harboured a hatred of women, had a fascination with serial killers and had planned to target others in the attack at Thorpe St Andrew School, near Norwich.

男孩的父亲在接受BBC独家采访时呼吁加强管控。他表示自己并不想“开脱”儿子,但认为网络材料以及“一种暴力和恐怖的文化”影响了他。

Speaking exclusively to the BBC and calling for tighter controls, the boy's father said he did not want to "absolve" his son but suggested online material and "a culture of violence and horror" had influenced him.

政府表示致力于确保所有儿童免受网络激进化与威胁的侵害,并指出其“预防”反恐计划和《在线安全法》——该法强制社交媒体平台删除并阻止非法内容的传播。

The government said it was committed to ensuring all children were safe from radicalisation and threats online, pointing to its Prevent anti-terrorism scheme and the Online Safety Act, which compels social media platforms to remove and prevent the spread of illegal content.

由于年龄原因,这名男孩的身份不能公开,案件中的证人和受害者的身份也不能公开。

The boy cannot be identified due to his age, and nor can witnesses and the victim in the case.

他的父亲(我们称他为约翰)向在3月11日袭击中受伤的15岁女孩道歉,说:“我们对所发生的一切深感抱歉。”约翰谈到他的担忧,即年轻男性正被激进化走向暴力和仇恨。

His father, who we are calling John, apologised to the 15-year-old girl injured in the attack on 11 March, saying: "We're so very sorry for what happened." John spoke of his fears that young men were being radicalised towards violence and hatred.

“你可能会想……这种事绝不会发生在我的家庭,或者我的儿子不可能参与其中,但我们当时就是这么想的,而事实并非如此,”他说。

"You can think... it can never happen to my family or my son couldn't be involved, but that's what we thought and that wasn't the case," he said.

在国王林恩刑事法院为期两周的庭审获悉,这名男孩身穿黑衣、戴着面罩,用一把厨房刀刺伤了那名女孩。约翰描述了袭击当天他自己“不断加剧的恐慌感”。

A two-week trial at King's Lynn Crown Court heard how the boy dressed in black and wore a face mask to stab the girl with a kitchen knife. John described his own "rising feeling of panic" on the day of the attack.

他说他和妻子一直“担心他可能做了什么,也担心他会遭遇什么”。

He said he and his wife had been "fearful for what he might have done and fearful for what would happen to him".

约翰的儿子在金斯林皇家法院(King's Lynn Crown Court)的审判中被判有罪。John's son was convicted after a trial at King's Lynn Crown Court

但约翰说,他只是在庭审过程中细节浮出水面后才了解到全部情况。“那太可怕了,真的令人崩溃,”他说。

But John said he only learned the full details when they emerged during the trial. "It was awful, really devastating," he said.

他承认这起袭击会对受害者造成“重大影响”。受害者住院一晚,但伤势不重。

He acknowledged the attack would have had "major repercussions" for the victim, who spent a night in hospital but was not seriously injured.

“我希望受害者和她的家人能尽快在康复方面走出来,继续生活,”他说。袭击发生前,约翰说,他的家庭一直是“正常”的。他的儿子性格内向,但有一群朋友,在家里也“体贴周到”。

"I hope the victim and her family can sort of get over it as soon as possible in terms of healing and move on," he said. Before the attack, John said, his family had been "normal". His son was shy but had a group of friends and had been "kind and thoughtful" at home.

青少年时期,他开始花更多时间独自待着,但约翰没有发现任何令人担忧的迹象。

As a teenager, he began to spend more time on his own, but John saw nothing concerning.

袭击发生后,学校周边道路被封锁。Roads around the school were cordoned off following the attack

然而,警方后来发现,这名男孩曾在网上搜索大规模枪击和连环杀手相关内容,包括袭击前一晚——约翰说他对此“完全不知情”。“他竟然会看那种东西,这令人震惊,也令人心碎,”他说。

However, police later found the boy had searched the internet for material on mass shootings and serial killers, including on the night before the attack - something John said he had "no idea" about. "It was shocking and devastating that he would have been looking at that kind of stuff," he said.

他儿子的设备上虽然安装了家长控制功能,但主要是为了限制屏幕使用时间。“没有任何迹象表明有什么不祥之事在发生,”约翰说。

While there were parental controls on his son's devices, these were mainly to limit screen time. "There was nothing to indicate that anything sinister was going on," said John.

如果你因本报道涉及的任何问题受到影响,可以访问BBC行动热线获取信息和支持。被问及他们是否本应更了解儿子手机上的内容,他说:“我能理解这种观点。“我怀疑有多少父母会定期查看孩子的浏览记录。

If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this story, you can visit the BBC Action Line for information and support Asked if they should have known more about what was on their son's phone, he said: "I can see the argument. "I doubt many parents will go through their kids' browsing history on a regular basis.

“事后诸葛亮真是件妙事,不是吗?”袭击发生后,警方搜查了这家人的住所,发现这名男孩写下了计划更大规模袭击的笔记。

"Hindsight's a marvellous thing, isn't it?" When police searched the family home after the attack, they found the boy had written notes planning a wider attack.

用于刺伤受害者的厨刀刀刃长18厘米(7英寸),刀柄长12厘米(5英寸),在一片树林区被发现。The kitchen knife used to stab the victim had a blade measuring 18cm (7in) and a handle measuring 12cm (5in) and was found in a wooded area

笔记中提到了死亡和伤害,并列出了厌世、厌女、自杀和欺凌等动机。约翰说,读到这些笔记让他感到“极度恶心”。

They talked about deaths and injuries, listing misanthropy, misogyny, suicide, bullying as motives. John said reading the notes made him feel "physically sick".

“我们仍然感到困惑,他怎么会写下那些东西,感受到那些情绪,”他说。

"It's still perplexing to us that he would write those things and feel those things that he was feeling," he said.

“他看起来就像另一个人;某种从他网上观看或看到的内容中浮现出来的、他不同的版本。”约翰说,他的儿子告诉他,自己对极端暴力的兴趣始于在TikTok上看到的一部电视剧《嗜血法医》的片段,该剧讲述了一名私刑连环杀手的故事。

"He just seems like a different person doing that; some different version of him that's emerged from whatever he's been watching or seeing online." John said his son had told him he believed his interest in extreme violence began after he saw a clip on TikTok from TV drama Dexter, which tells the story of a vigilante serial killer.

“一旦你看了那种东西,算法自然就会给你推送更多相同的内容,”他说。

"Once you watch one thing like that, the algorithm, of course, feeds you more of the same content," he said.

他说,他认为一些年轻男性可能会被网上越来越极端的内容所吸引,并呼吁对儿童接触这类内容实施更严格的监管。

He said he believed some young men could be drawn towards increasingly extreme material online and called for tighter regulations on children's access to it.

“尤其是年轻男性的激进化。人们谈到这一点时会联系到恐怖主义和政治意识形态,但(还存在)一种走向暴力和仇恨的激进化,”他说。

"There's the radicalisation of young men in particular. They talk about it with regards to terrorism and political ideology, but [there's] a radicalisation towards violence and hatred," he said.

“必须有办法屏蔽内容或监控内容。我们看到数以百万计英镑被花在其他事情上。这类事情上投入的资金够吗?”英国广播和互联网的官方监管机构通信管理局表示,科技公司有责任保障儿童上网安全。

"There must be ways to block content or to monitor content. We see millions of pounds spent on other things. Is there enough being spent on this kind of thing?" Ofcom, the official regulator for broadcasting and the internet, says it is the responsibility of tech firms to keep children safe online.

该机构表示正在追究这些公司的责任,但也为家长提供了以下建议:经常与孩子谈论他们上网时做什么。

It says it is holding those companies to account, but has the following tips for parents: Talk regularly to your children about what they do when they're online.

确保孩子使用真实年龄注册网络服务,以帮助他们避免接触只适合年龄更大者观看的内容。

Make sure your children with online services using their real age, to help prevent them from accessing content that is only suitable for people who are older.

确保他们知道如何举报不当或有害内容、如何屏蔽分享此类内容的账号,并鼓励他们自己不要分享。如果内容违法,请向警方举报。

Make sure they know how to report inappropriate or harmful content, how to block accounts that share it and encourage them not to share it themselves. If content is illegal, report it to the police.

家长控制功能是有用的工具,可以帮助你监控和限制孩子上网的时间,以及他们在网上做什么。

Parental controls are a useful tool, helping you to monitor and limit the time your children spend online, and what they do when they're there.

约翰承认他儿子的犯罪与获奖剧集《青春期》(Adolescence)的剧情存在相似之处,该剧由欧文·库珀(Owen Cooper,左)和斯蒂芬·格拉汉姆(Stephen Graham)主演。John acknowledged parallels with his son's crime and the storyline of award-winning drama Adolescence starring Owen Cooper (left) and Stephen Graham

约翰儿子的袭击事件与Netflix热播剧《青春期》的剧情有相似之处。该剧讲述了一名少女被同校学生刺死后的余波。

The attack by John's son had parallels with the storyline of hit Netflix drama Adolescence, which shows the aftermath of the fatal stabbing of a teenage girl by a fellow school pupil.

该剧凸显了社交媒体和厌女网红对一些十几岁男孩的腐蚀性影响,并促使时任首相基尔·斯塔默爵士承诺解决这一问题。

It highlighted the corrosive impact of social media and misogynist influencers on some teenage boys and prompted then Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer to pledge to tackle the issue.

约翰说,虽然他个人没有看过这部剧,但他知道围绕它的讨论,也能理解为什么人们可能会把它与这件事联系起来。

John said while he had not personally watched the show, he was aware of discussion around it and could see why links to it might be made.

“了解它的内容后,确实促使我们和儿子聊了聊‘男人圈’以及剧中所提到的那些有毒网红,”他说。

"Knowing what it was about did prompt a chat with our son about the manosphere and those sort of toxic influencers it references," he said.

约翰的儿子留下的笔记表达了对女性的仇恨,他还曾研究过埃利奥特·罗杰,后者被向陪审团描述为“非自愿独身者和男性圈子文化的早期影响者”。但约翰表示,儿子从未表现出厌女的迹象。

Notes written by John's son expressed a hatred of women, and he had also researched Elliot Rodger, described to jurors as "an early influence on incel and manosphere culture". But John said his son had never shown evidence of misogyny.

分享给BBC的照片显示,学校实施封锁后,一些孩子躲在课桌底下。Pictures shared with the BBC showed some children hiding underneath their desks after the school was put under lockdown

“他在生活中和认识的所有女性相处得都很好……从来没有问题。”约翰说,家人认为儿子在袭击发生前几个月正遭受心理健康问题的困扰。他说,儿子曾想自残,并试图结束自己的生命。“我们担心他会对自己不利。”

"He's always got on well with all the women he's known in his life... there's never been a problem." John said the family believed their son was dealing with mental health issues in the months before the attack. He had wanted to self-harm and had attempted to take his own life, he said. "We were worried about what he might do to himself."

约翰敦促其他父母不要害怕对孩子的生活“稍微干涉一下”,并补充道:“试着进行一次真正的交谈。有时候因为忙于自己的事,很难抽出时间,但这很重要。”一份政府声明中,一位发言人表示,政府的想法与受害者以及所有受索普圣安德鲁学校“可怕事件”影响的人同在。

John urged other parents not to be afraid to be "a bit intrusive" into their children's lives, adding: "Try and have a proper chat. It's difficult to find the time sometimes because you're wrapped up in your own things." In a statement, a government spokesman said its thoughts were with the victim and all of those affected by the "terrible events" at Thorpe St Andrew School.

“我们致力于确保所有儿童免受极端化和网络威胁的侵害,”声明称。

"We are committed to ensuring all children are safe from radicalisation and threats online," they said.

“‘预防计划’在此发挥着关键作用,自2015年以来已使6000多人远离暴力意识形态。

"Prevent plays a crucial role in this, moving more than 6,000 people away from violent ideologies since 2015.

“此外,社交媒体平台必须依法具备删除非法内容、阻止儿童接触有害材料的能力——否则将面临高达1800万英镑的罚款。”约翰承认,当儿子在12月再次出庭时,他“面临着漫长的刑期”。

"In addition, social media platforms must be able to remove illegal content and stop children accessing harmful material by law – or face penalties of up to £18m for failing to comply." John acknowledged that his son was "looking at a long sentence" when he appears before the court again in December.

“我们会尽力支持他,争取让他获得所需的心理健康支持,并努力让他恢复到从前的样子,”他说。

"We will support him as best we can, try and see that he gets the mental health support he needs and try and get back how he used to be," he said.

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