西班牙电影人哈维尔·卡尔沃和哈维尔·安布罗西——二人合称“Los Javis”——的新片是一部史诗般的故事，带领观众穿越三条时间线：1932年因同性恋身份被“黑球制”排挤的青年；1937年爱上受伤敌军俘虏的士兵；以及一位当代作家，他继承了从未谋面的祖父留下的遗物，将这三个故事串联在一起。
a new movie by Spanish filmmakers Javier Calvo and Javier Ambrossi — known collectively as "Los Javis" —is an epic story that takes viewers through three timelines: a young man blackballed for being gay 1932; a soldier from 1937 who falls in love with the wounded enemy prisoner; and a contemporary writer who inherits something from a grandfather he never knew, which ties the three stories together.
安布罗西说：“我们没有那么多电影或书籍讲述连接我们作为一个群体——酷儿群体——的历史。这就是为什么我们想把它拍得宏大、史诗感十足、大胆无畏。”这部电影基于西班牙著名诗人、剧作家费德里科·加西亚·洛尔卡开始创作的一个剧本的四页内容，讲述一名青年遭遇1930年代西班牙私人俱乐部流行的“黑球制”：成员往箱子里投球决定谁能入会，白球意味着通过，黑球意味着被拒。
"We don't have that many movies or books about the history that connects us as a community, the queer community," Ambrossi says. "That's why we wanted to make it big. We wanted to make it epic and we wanted to make it bold." The film is based on four pages of a play that famed Spanish poet and playwright Federico García Lorca began writing about a young man who was subject to the "black ball system" that was popular in the private clubs of 1930s Spain. Members dropped balls into a box to decide who would belong: A white ball meant you were in, a black ball meant that you were out.
但1936年，洛尔卡在完成剧本前被捕并遇害。为了完成洛尔卡的剧本，卡尔沃和安布罗西深入钻研他的世界。安布罗西说：“我们读信件……我们在循着线索追寻。我们就像侦探。”卡尔沃补充道：“发现他喜欢在派对上谈论自己的创作计划，这很有趣。”
But in 1936, before Lorca could finish the play, he was arrested and murdered. In order to complete Lorca's script, Calvo and Ambrossi immersed themselves in his world. "We read letters. … We were following the clues," Ambrossi says. "We were like detectives." Calvo adds, "It was fun to discover that he would like to talk about his projects in parties."
卡尔沃说，这部电影让他们感觉更贴近前几代同性恋男性：“我们都被这个我们共享、代代相传的黑球连接着，那是沉默、痛苦、羞耻，但也是生命的火花、渴望、爱与快乐。我觉得这让我为我的群体、为那些在我之前奋斗的勇者感到自豪。”Los Javis于5月在戛纳电影节获得最佳导演奖。该片已被Netflix收购。目前在精选影院上映，将于12月2日在Netflix开始流媒体播放。
Calvo says the film helps them feel closer to a generation of gay men who came before them: "We are all connected by this black ball that we all share, that we pass to each other, every generation, a black ball, that is silence, pain, shame, but also it's a spark of life and desire and love and joy. I feel like it made me feel proud of my community and of the brave people that fought before me." Los Javis won the prize for best directing at the Cannes Film Festival in May. has been acquired by Netflix. It's in select theaters now and will begin streaming on Netflix on Dec. 2.
关于在20世纪初于马德里表演的夜总会女郎，即“小调歌手”（由佩内洛普·克鲁兹在片中饰演） 历史在重演。法西斯主义正在抬头，这是一件令人担忧的事，而我们对抗不宽容与仇恨的武器，就是写作和拍电影，这正是我们存在的意义。
On the cabaret girls, or "cupletistas," who performed in Madrid in the early 20th century (portrayed by Penélope Cruz in the film) History repeats itself. Fascism is rising and it's a worrying thing and our weapon against intolerance and hate is our writing and making movies and this is what we're here to do.
哈维尔·卡尔沃·卡尔沃：那一代人以为自己将永远自由，但随后两次独裁统治接踵而至，他们遭到迫害、杀害、失踪。令人震惊的是，如今几乎无人记得他们。他们仿佛在历史中迷失了。…… 感受到那与我们当下所处社会的相似性，令人震惊。我们以为自己将永远自由，仿佛权利已到手、我们已站稳脚跟。但历史在重演。法西斯主义正在抬头，这是一件令人担忧的事，而我们对抗不宽容与仇恨的武器，就是写作和拍电影，这正是我们存在的意义。
Javier Calvo Calvo: This generation, they thought they were going to be free forever but then two dictatorships came and they were persecuted, they were murdered, they disappeared. And it's shocking to understand that today almost no one remembers them. They were kind of lost in history. … It was shocking to feel the parallelism with the society we live in now, in which we think we could be free forever, like we're going to be free forever, we conquered the rights, we're here. But history repeats itself. Fascism is rising and it's a worrying thing and our weapon against intolerance and hate is our writing and making movies and this is what we're here to do.
关于片中将同性恋者的心比作“秘密的海洋”这一台词 安布罗西：这并不算多有诗意，因为这是向《泰坦尼克号》致敬。所以更像是给观众的一个眨眼暗示。懂的人自然懂。…… 除了向《泰坦尼克号》致敬，我们还想拍一部富有诗意的电影。因为我认为诗意是法西斯主义的对立面。诗意对每个人都充满意义，它是多义的，每个人都会有不同的理解。
On the line in the film likening a gay man's heart to an "ocean of secrets" Ambrossi: That's not very poetic, because it's a tribute to Titanic. So it was more like a wink to the audience. The people that know, know. … Besides the Titanic tribute, we wanted to do a poetic movie. Because I think poetry is the opposite of fascism. Because poetry is full of meanings for everyone, and it's polysemic and poetry everyone will understand differently.
关于通过创作合作获得完整感 卡尔沃：[我]从第一部戏就感受到了。…… 从那时起，合作就非常自然。今天我们……在车上聊下一个项目，为想探讨的主题感到兴奋。
On feeling whole through their creative collaboration Calvo: [I felt it] from the first play. … And since then it's been like a really natural collaboration. Today we were ... in the car talking about the next project and we're getting excited about the things we want to talk about.
我们究竟如何紧密相连，简直是个谜，像是大脑相连。…… 甚至在采访中，我知道他什么时候该说话，我知道我什么时候该说话，什么时候他想插话。这是一种真正的连接。
It's kind of a mystery how we really are connected, like connected brains. ... Even in an interview, I know when he has to talk, I know when I have to talk, when he wants to intervene. It's a true connection.
安布罗西：从第一天起，这段关系就很奇怪、很神秘。我认为这是因为我们太不同了。……我非常感性，喜欢营造氛围工作，而哈维非常注重细节、具体。而且我们在灵魂层面上也是不同的。关于在拍摄电影期间变得过度纠缠并分手安布罗西：我们曾是朋友，后来成为恋人，在一起13年。后来我们分手了，因为这段关系不健康。
Ambrossi: From the first day, it's weird and mysterious. And I think it's because we are so different. … I'm very emotional and I love to work with atmospheres and Javi is very detailed and specific. And also we are different, like, in our souls. On becoming too enmeshed and breaking up during the making of the movie Ambrossi: We were friends, then we became a romantic couple for 13 years. Then we broke up because it was unhealthy.
就像我们需要找回自我。……卡尔沃：作为艺术家，你需要诚实。我们进行了一次成熟的谈话。我们说，让我们向前看，继续写剧本。让我们以一种诚实且宣泄的方式继续执导这部电影。
It was like we needed to find ourselves. …Calvo: You need to be honest as an artist. And we had a mature conversation. We said, let's move on and let's write. Let's keep on directing this movie in an honest and cathartic way.
安布罗西：当你在写一部向先行者致敬的电影时——向LGBTQ+群体中走在我们前面的人致敬，讲述我们的权利是建立在他们的痛苦之上的——你会觉得，我至少需要试着去快乐，而我们在那段关系里并不快乐。所以我们改变了。
Ambrossi: And when you're writing a movie about paying tribute to the people that came before you in the LGBTQ+ community and about how our rights are based on their suffering, it's like I just need at least to try to be happy, and we weren't happy in that relationship. So we changed.