
《纽约时报》一位编辑周四在接受采访时承认,该报在给分析人士和教授贴政治标签方面存在不一致的做法,此前一位法学教授质疑该报决定将他标识为“保守派”。
A New York Times editor acknowledged during an interview on Thursday that the paper applied political labels to analysts and professors inconsistently after a law professor challenged the newspaper's decision to identify him as a conservative.
《纽约时报》标准与信任部助理主编帕特里克·希利在“Sound Off”播客节目中表示,法学教授约什·布莱克曼在24小时内两次被《时报》报道称为“保守派”后与该报取得了联系。
Patrick Healy, the assistant managing editor for Standards and Trust at the Times, said during the "Sound Off" podcast that law professor Josh Blackman reached out after he was labeled a "conservative" in Times reporting twice within 24 hours.
希利说:“乔什,你在《时报》两次把你描述为‘保守派’法学教授后与我们联系。你说‘保守派’这个标签本身是准确的,但《时报》给法学教授和分析人士贴‘保守派’和‘自由派’等标签的做法不一致,学者的观点应当自己说话。”
"Josh, you reached out after the Times twice described you as a, quote, conservative, end quote, law professor. And you said the conservative label was accurate, but that The Times applies labels like conservative and liberal inconsistently to law professors and analysts, and that a scholar’s view should speak for itself," Healy said.
布莱克曼将这一问题描述为他对所有主流媒体机构的长期不满,并表示他在2月份两次被《纽约时报》文章引述为“保守派法学教授”。
Blackman described the issue as a longstanding grievance with all major media outlets and said he was quoted twice as a "conservative law professor" in New York Times articles in February.
他在与希利的对话中说:“我只是觉得这很奇怪。所以我查阅了Westlaw档案库,在《纽约时报》数据库中搜索‘自由派’法学教授和‘保守派’法学教授,发现你们给人贴‘保守派’标签的可能性远大于贴‘自由派’标签。而这些数字之所以有差距,是因为自由派被引述的频率甚至更高。所以这种差距实际上更大。”
"I just thought that was strange. So I went through the Westlaw archives and just sort of searched for 'liberal' law professors and 'conservative' law professors in the New York Times database, and it was far more likely that you’re identifying a conservative than a liberal. And those numbers are stacked because liberals are quoted even more often.
布莱克曼说:“我认为这在某种程度上强化了一种认知,即学术界和媒体坦率地说都把自由派立场视为中立立场,而保守派立场则是‘另一种’、异类立场。这就是为什么你们必须用这种命名法、这种形容词来描述它。”
So the numbers even have a greater disparity," he said during the conversation with Healy. "And this sort of reinforces, I think, a perception that both the academy and, frankly, the media views a liberal position as a neutral position. And the conservative position is the other, the outlier.
他说,他在2月份给编辑写过信,但《时报》没有刊登,不过他感谢希利就此事联系他。
And that’s why you have to have this sort of nomenclature, this sort of adjective to describe it," Blackman said.
希利接着承认了布莱克曼批评的合理性:“我认为你的批评很有道理,这是我们需要做得更好的地方。”
He said he wrote a letter to the editor in February and the Times didn't publish it, but added that he appreciated Healy reaching out to him about it.
希利说:“这会给人一种印象,即《纽约时报》把自由派视为常态,而把保守派视为独特且值得贴标签的群体。在法学学术界,自由派很多,但这不能成为理由。我认为我们需要在这方面更加审慎。”福克斯新闻数字频道已联系《纽约时报》置评。
Healy went on to acknowledge the validity of Blackman's critique: "I think there’s real truth to your critique and it’s something we need to do a better job on." "It can come off like The Times treats liberals as normal and conservatives as unique and worthy of labeling," Healy said. "In the legal academy, there are a lot of liberals, but that doesn’t justify it.

布莱克曼辩称,标签应反映教授对某一议题的参与情况,而非其政治立场。他说:“你们有些记者会说,‘布莱克曼教授提交了支持特朗普政府的法庭之友简报’,或‘提交了反对奥巴马政府医改政策的简报’,又或‘提交了支持德克萨斯州总检察长的简报’——无论具体是什么。这其实是一个有用的数据点,因为它显示某人在这个争斗中‘有利害关系’。”他说,像保守派、自由派这种宽泛的标签,并不能告诉读者太多信息。
I think we need to be more discerning about it." Fox News Digital reached out to the New York Times for comment. Blackman argued that the label should reflect a professor's involvement in an issue rather than their political affiliation. He said, "And some of your reporters have said, well, 'Professor Blackman has filed briefs in support of the Trump administration', or 'has filed a brief in opposition to the Obama administration on health care,' or, you know, 'has filed a brief in support of the Texas attorney general' — whatever it happens to be. That's actually a data point that's useful because it shows a person has sort of a dog in the fight."
布莱克曼说:“所以这预设了一种逻辑:因为他是保守派,所以你应该打折看待他支持特朗普的观点;反之,因为某人是自由派,你或许应该打折看待他们支持奥巴马总统或拜登总统的观点,无论具体是谁。我会——如果你们想建立信任和标准,我会聚焦于潜在的利益冲突或偏见原因,而不仅仅是这个人在政治上如何自我认同。”
He said broad labels, such as conservative and liberal, don't tell the reader much. "So it presumes that, well, because he’s conservative, you know, you should discount his views supporting Trump, or conversely, because the person’s liberal, you should perhaps discount their views supporting President Obama or President Biden, whoever it happens to be. I would — if you’re trying to build up trust and standards, I would focus on the potential reason for a conflict or bias, and not just how the person identifies politically," Blackman said.

新闻监督机构NewsBusters的执行主编柯蒂斯·霍克在一份声明中告诉福克斯新闻数字频道:“看来希利本周末打算扮成‘明摆着队长’去参加万圣节派对。承认自己有问题是一回事,但大多数人都知道,那只是第一步,而且往往会被用来拖延,或者实际上并不落实改变。”霍克补充说:“如果希利在镜头前被追问,他大概会试图退缩或让这段对话‘被记忆删除’,而不是对《纽约时报》做得更好做出任何具体承诺。他可能更不满的是有人主动联系、当场抓了这家报纸的现行,而不是不满于他自己——通过其新闻从业生涯——和他的同事们花了一辈子以上的时间掩盖和/或抹黑保守派。”
Curtis Houck, a managing editor at NewsBusters, told Fox News Digital in a statement, "It seems like Healy is aiming to go to Halloween parties this weekend as Captain Obvious. It's one thing to recognize you have a problem, but as most people are aware, that's only step one, and it can often be used to punt or not actually follow through on changes." Houck added, "Healy, if pressed on camera, would probably try to back off or memory hole this conversation instead of making any concrete commitment to The Times doing any better. He's probably more upset that someone reached out to catch the paper red-handed instead of the fact that he — through his own journalism career — and his colleagues have spent more than a lifetime burying and/or smearing conservatives."
《华尔街日报》社论版助理编辑詹姆斯·弗里曼在周一的一篇文章中赞扬了《纽约时报》,并称赞他们承认了一位消息来源的批评。
The Wall Street Journal's assistant editor to the editorial page, James Freeman, praised the NYT in a piece on Monday, and credited them for acknowledging a source's criticism.