
欧洲必须推进经济和政治改革,并加强与土耳其等国的伙伴关系,以维护生活水平并保持全球竞争力,一位比利时高级政治人物对土耳其新闻社表示。
Europe must pursue economic and political reforms and strengthen partnerships with countries such as Türkiye to preserve living standards and maintain global competitiveness, a senior Belgian politician told Anadolu.
比利时法语区改革运动(MR)主席乔治-路易·布谢(Georges‑Louis Bouchez)称,欧洲各地普遍的公众不满和抗议反映了一个重大变革的时期。
Georges-Louis Bouchez, president of Belgium's French-speaking Reformist Movement (MR), said widespread public dissatisfaction and protests across Europe reflected a period of significant change.
布谢在访问安卡拉期间谈及欧洲国家面临的经济压力、与土耳其更紧密合作的必要性以及欧洲加强战略独立的努力。
Speaking during a visit to Ankara, Bouchez addressed the economic pressures facing European countries, the need for closer cooperation with Türkiye, and Europe's efforts to strengthen its strategic independence.
他说:“你知道,理论与现实的区别在于勇气,”并指出许多欧洲政治家承认改革的必要性,却在面对艰难决策时犹豫不决。
"You know, the difference between theory and the reality is the courage," he said, arguing that many European politicians acknowledged the need for reform but hesitated when confronted with difficult decisions.
他表示,减税需要改变公共支出,包括社会保障体系,而该体系需要变得更高效。
He said reducing taxes would require changes to public expenditure, including social security systems, which he argued needed to become more efficient.
他说:“我们的社会保障——是一个很好的体系,但与此同时,我们花了太多钱,却收效甚微。所以必须提高效率。”
"Our social security – it's a great system, but in the same time, we spend too much money for not enough results. So we have to be more efficient," he said.
布谢认为,欧洲人必须做好短期牺牲的准备,以维护大陆的高生活水平、医疗、教育和公共服务。
Bouchez argued that Europeans must be prepared to make short-term sacrifices to preserve the continent's high living standards, healthcare, education and public services.
他说:“如果我们想保持舒适,就必须现在付出一些努力,”并补充说,政治家应当解释不仅哪些改革是必要的,还要说明为何需要这些改革。
"If we want to keep our comfort? It is important to make some effort now," he said, adding that politicians should explain not only which reforms were necessary but also why they were needed.
在谈及法国的示威和动荡时,布谢批评了抗议中的暴力行为,称对公共基础设施或企业的攻击没有任何正当理由。他还指责政治领袖过于关注人气,而不是提出明确的长期计划。
Addressing demonstrations and unrest in France, Bouchez criticized violence during protests, saying there could be no justification for attacks on public infrastructure or businesses. He also accused political leaders of being overly concerned with popularity rather than presenting clear, long-term plans.
他说:“他们想一直受欢迎,但受欢迎并不是义务。重要的是要严肃认真。”
"They want to be popular all the time, but it's not an obligation to be popular. It is important to be serious," he said.
尽管面临挑战,布歇表示,欧洲有能力在生活质量方面保持全球领先地位,前提是各国政府愿意实施改革。
Despite the challenges, Bouchez said Europe had the capacity to remain a global leader in quality of life, provided governments were willing to implement reforms.
在谈到土耳其与欧洲的关系时,布歇呼吁采取务实态度,聚焦共同的经济和安全利益,包括投资、市场准入和签证问题。“我认为现在重要的是达成一项双赢协议,”他说。
Turning to relations between Türkiye and Europe, Bouchez called for a pragmatic approach focused on shared economic and security interests, including investment, market access and visas. "I think it's important now to make a win-win deal," he said.
“我认为,例如签证问题对土耳其来说很重要。还有进入共同市场的问题,即欧洲共同市场。”布歇表示,欧洲需要更多投资,并认为土耳其企业可以在增强欧洲大陆工业能力方面发挥重要作用。
"I think the question of visa, for example, is important for Türkiye. The question also is to enter the common market, the European common market." Bouchez said Europe needed greater investment and suggested that Turkish businesses could play an important role in strengthening the continent's industrial capacity.
布歇认为,尽管双方在政治视角和优先事项上存在分歧,但共同利益多于分歧。
Bouchez argued that the two sides shared more interests than disagreements, despite differences in their political perspectives and priorities.
“我们之间存在一些对立。这很正常,因为我们处境不同,意识形态也不同,我们必须尊重这一点,”他说。
"We have some opposition. It is normal, because we have different situation, different ideologies also, and we have to respect that," he said.
“但重要的是把所有共同利益、所有共同目标摆到桌面上。”布歇指出,贸易、投资、安全、反恐和防务合作是双方可以进一步达成协议的领域。
"But it is important to put on the table all the common interests, all the common goals." Bouchez identified trade, investment, security, counterterrorism and defense cooperation as areas in which further agreements could be pursued.
他还强调,比利时的土耳其侨民是连接两国的重要纽带,称这有助于为企业 and 投资者创造新机遇。
He also highlighted Belgium's Turkish diaspora as an important link between the two countries, saying it could help create new opportunities for businesses and investors.
在谈到由比利时王后玛蒂尔德率领的经济代表团时,他表示此类访问体现了尊重,有助于建立商业联系。但他强调,持续接触对于将外交接触转化为具体项目至关重要。
Discussing the economic mission led by Belgium's Queen Mathilde, he said such visits demonstrated respect and helped establish business connections. However, he stressed that sustained engagement was essential to translating diplomatic contacts into concrete projects.
他举例说,一家土耳其工业公司正在比利时寻找选址,并表示直接协助可以帮助促成这项投资。
He cited the example of a Turkish industrial company seeking a location in Belgium, saying direct assistance could help facilitate the investment.
布歇表示,华盛顿与北京之间日益加剧的竞争,使欧洲制定自身经济与地缘政治战略变得愈发重要。
Bouchez said growing competition between Washington and Beijing made it increasingly important for Europe to develop its own economic and geopolitical strategy.
他说:“因此,拥有第三条道路很重要,因为目前有一条与美国的路,有一条与中国的路,而我认为第三条道路是欧盟与土耳其等特定伙伴之间的关系。”
"So, it is important to have a third way, because for the moment there is one way with the United States, there is a second way with China, and I think the third way is the relationship between the European Union and some specific partnership like Türkiye," he said.
他主张,欧洲在应对全球竞争和自身工业部门衰退时,应优先加强与土耳其和非洲国家的经济伙伴关系。
He argued that Europe should prioritize stronger economic partnerships with Türkiye and African countries as it responds to global competition and the decline of its industrial sector.
据布歇称,欧洲工业占GDP的比重已萎缩了大约二十年,而来自中国和其他经济体的竞争则不断加剧。
According to Bouchez, Europe's industrial share of GDP had been shrinking for roughly two decades, while competition from China and other economies had intensified.
他表示,与土耳其的合作可以帮助欧洲实现经济关系多元化,并在日益分裂的国际环境中增强自身地位。
He said cooperation with Türkiye could help Europe diversify its economic relationships and strengthen its position in an increasingly divided international environment.
这位比利时政治家警告说,如果没有一种更加独立的路线,欧洲就有可能沦为世界两大经济体之间竞争的被动旁观者。他还呼吁欧洲领导人对国际伙伴采取更加尊重的态度。
The Belgian politician warned that without a more independent approach, Europe risked becoming a passive observer of the rivalry between the world's two largest economies. He also called on European leaders to adopt a more respectful approach toward international partners.
他说:“我们也需要对世界其他地区更加尊重,因为在欧洲,我们喜欢就民主、权利之类的事情给世界其他地区上很多课。”
"We need to have more respect also to the rest of the world because in Europe we like to give a lot of lessons to the rest of the world about democracy, the rights, and things like that," he said.
布歇主张,欧洲国家应尊重其他国家的历史、政治传统和选举结果,同时继续坚持自身的价值观。
Bouchez argued that European countries should respect the histories, political traditions and electoral outcomes of other nations while continuing to uphold their own values.
在谈到跨大西洋关系时,布歇称美国总统唐纳德·特朗普的政策是对欧洲的警钟,促使欧洲加强自身主权。他说:“这只是一记警钟。”
Turning to transatlantic relations, Bouchez described US President Donald Trump's policies as a wake-up call for Europe to strengthen its sovereignty. "It is just a wake-up call," he said.
他认为,美国大约二十年来一直在将战略注意力转向中国,而欧洲国家未能充分适应这一变化。布歇说,特朗普的言论让欧洲对美国的依赖更加明显。
He argued that the US had been shifting its strategic attention toward China for approximately two decades, while European countries had failed to adapt sufficiently. Bouchez said Trump's statements made Europe's dependence on the US more apparent.
他在称华盛顿是亲密盟友的同时强调,欧洲必须在能源、国防和工业生产方面发展更大的独立性。“我们需要更多的主权,”他说。
While describing Washington as a close ally, he stressed that Europe must develop greater independence in energy, defense and industrial production. "We need more sovereignty," he said.
他强烈捍卫核能,认为核能对像比利时这样缺乏大量国内石油和天然气资源的国家至关重要。
He strongly defended nuclear energy, arguing that it was essential for countries such as Belgium, which lack substantial domestic oil and gas resources.
在国防方面,他指出乌克兰战争以及对美国通信系统(包括埃隆·马斯克的星链)的持续依赖,证明欧洲在发展独立能力方面做得不够。
On defense, he pointed to the war in Ukraine and continued reliance on American communication systems, including Elon Musk's Starlink, as evidence that Europe had not done enough to develop independent capabilities.
布歇还强调了土耳其在北约中的重要性,引用其地理位置、外交关系和不断扩大的防务工业。“首先,土耳其加入北约是一个巨大的优势,”他说。
Bouchez also highlighted Türkiye's importance within NATO, citing its geographical position, diplomatic relationships and expanding defense industry. "First of all, it's a great advantage to have Turkey inside NATO," he said.
他赞扬土耳其的防务制造能力,并以比利时约翰·科克尔公司与土耳其FNSS的合作为例,说明已有的工业联系可以进一步扩大。
He praised Türkiye's defense manufacturing capabilities and cited cooperation between Belgium's John Cockerill and Türkiye's FNSS as an example of existing industrial ties that could be expanded.
布歇认为,联合军备项目可以提升互操作性,使北约成员国更有效地协调防务开支。
Bouchez argued that joint military projects could improve interoperability and enable NATO members to coordinate defense spending more effectively.
他还批评了他所称的欧洲过度的税收、监管和高能源成本,称这些因素导致工业投资转向中国和美国。
He also criticized what he described as excessive taxation, regulation and high energy costs in Europe, saying these factors have contributed to industrial investment shifting toward China and the US.
这位比利时政界人士呼吁加快决策、降低能源成本并营造更具竞争力的投资环境。
The Belgian politician called for faster decision-making, lower energy costs and a more competitive investment environment.
他进一步指出,人工智能是工业发展的重大机遇,警告欧洲必须大幅增加投资,才能在下一波技术变革中竞争。
He further identified artificial intelligence as a major opportunity for industrial development, warning that Europe would need to increase investment significantly to compete in the next wave of technological transformation.
在讲话的结尾,布歇将土耳其描述为一个充满活力的国家,拥有年轻人口和连接欧洲、中东及周边地区的战略位置。
Concluding his remarks, Bouchez described Türkiye as a dynamic country with a young population and a strategic location connecting Europe, the Middle East and surrounding regions.
他表示,加强与安卡拉的关系有助于双方在日益竞争激烈的国际环境中前行,同时推进双方共同的经济和安全利益。
He said strengthening relations with Ankara could help both sides navigate an increasingly competitive international environment while advancing their shared economic and security interests.