
前众议院议长、加州民主党人南希·佩洛西周四批评纽约市市长佐赫兰·马姆达尼和密歇根州民主党联邦参议员候选人阿卜杜勒·埃尔-赛义德在以色列问题上的观点,称他们的立场“错误”,并表示这些立场并不代表国会中的民主党人。
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., criticized New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani and Michigan Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed over their views on Israel Thursday, calling their positions "wrong" and saying they did not reflect congressional Democrats.
“On Brand”播客主持人唐尼·多伊奇提到了这两位进步派民主党人,并询问佩洛西,作为一名犹太裔,他如何能将自身对民主党的支持与那些他认为发表反犹言论的政客相调和。
The two progressive Democrats were mentioned by "On Brand" podcast host Donny Deutsch, who asked Pelosi how he, as a Jewish man, could reconcile his support for the Democratic Party with politicians whose statements he considered antisemitic.
“当你说以色列无权作为一个犹太国家存在时,在我看来,这就是反犹,”多伊奇说。
"When you say Israel doesn't have the right to be a Jewish state, that's antisemitic, as far as I'm concerned with all that," Deutsch said.
当佩洛西要求举例时,多伊奇点名了马姆达尼和埃尔-赛义德,称他们的言论“令人担忧”。
When Pelosi asked for examples, Deutsch named Mamdani and El-Sayed, calling their comments "concerning."
“不,这不仅仅是令人担忧,”佩洛西回应道。“这是错误的。这是错误的。这并不反映美国国会中民主党人的立场。密歇根这位新人物,我们拭目以待他能否当选进入国会。但这位市长,愿上帝保佑他,我希望他作为市长取得成功,但我不同意他的一些言论。但就我们在众议院的同僚而言,如果有人那样说,其他成员会与之划清界限。”
"No, it's more than concerning," Pelosi responded. "It's wrong. It's wrong. And it isn't a reflection of the Democrats in the Congress of the United States. This new person in Michigan, we'll see if he gets elected to the Congress. But the mayor, bless his heart, I hope he succeeds as mayor, but I don't agree with some of the things he has said.

在马姆达尼当选纽约市市长之前,当被问及以色列是否应成为一个犹太国家时,他多次回避问题。然而,在6月28日接受美国广播公司新闻采访时,马姆达尼表示他支持以色列作为一个享有平等权利的国家,但拒绝认可其作为犹太国家的地位。
But in terms of our people in the House of Representatives, if somebody says that, the other members disassociate themselves from it." Before he was elected New York City mayor, Mamdani repeatedly dodged questions when asked if Israel should be a Jewish state. In a June 28 interview with ABC News, however, Mamdani said he supported Israel as a state with equal rights but declined to endorse it as a Jewish state.
“我认为任何将一种宗教置于另一种宗教之上的国家,我都无法告诉你我支持它,无论是以色列、沙特阿拉伯还是其他地方,”马姆达尼说。
"I think any state that privileges one religion over the other is one that I can’t tell you I support, whether it be Israel or Saudi Arabia or anywhere else," Mamdani said.
埃尔-赛义德多次拒绝明确表态以色列是否有权作为犹太国家存在。在5月与犹太支持者的一次活动中,这位候选人表示他“难以”回答这个问题,并暗示犹太国家的理念与美国“我们自称所信奉的”自由价值观不一致。早些时候在接受多伊奇采访时,佩洛西最初否认民主党中有任何人是反犹主义者。
El-Sayed has repeatedly declined to affirm whether Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. In a May appearance with Jewish supporters, the candidate said he "struggled" to answer this question and suggested the idea of a Jewish state wasn't consistent with the liberal values "we say we believe in here in the United States." Earlier in the interview with Deutsch, Pelosi initially denied that anyone in the Democratic Party was antisemitic.

“事实是,我真的不知道我们这边有任何人从事反犹主义。那可能只是表面看起来如此,或者他们被指控如此。但如果有的话,也只是少数。如果有的话,我认为有时他们说了不该说的话,可以被那样解读,”佩洛西说。
"The fact is that I really do not know of anybody there on our side who is engaged in antisemitism. That may be what it appears to be or what they're charged to be. But if they are, it's only a few. If there are, I think sometimes they say things that they shouldn't and can be interpreted that way," Pelosi said.
尽管她对马姆达尼和埃尔-赛义德的言论有所担忧,但她淡化了这些言论对整个党派的影响。
Despite her concerns about Mamdani and El-Sayed's comments, she dismissed their impact on the party as a whole.
“人们代表他们的选区,我们必须尊重这一点。职位描述、职位名称是代表,但这并不意味着它对民主党的共识有影响,[众议院少数党领袖]哈基姆·杰弗里斯在这一点上非常明确,”佩洛西说。
"People represent their districts and we have to respect that. The job description, job title is representative, but that doesn't mean it has an impact on the consensus of the Democratic Party and [House Minority Leader] Hakeem Jeffries has been very clear on that," Pelosi said.
福克斯新闻数字频道联系了佩洛西、马姆达尼和埃尔-赛义德的代表寻求置评,但未立即收到回复。
Fox News Digital reached out to representatives for Pelosi, Mamdani and El-Sayed for comment but did not immediately receive a response.
犹太价值观联盟执行副主席、拉比亚科夫·门肯承认佩洛西“是犹太社区在众议院民主党人中最亲密的朋友之一”,但表示她似乎没有认识到同事中的反犹主义,这令人担忧。
Rabbi Yaakov Menken, executive vice president of the Coalition for Jewish Values, acknowledged Pelosi "as one of the Jewish community's best friends among House Democrats" but said it was alarming that she did not seem to recognize antisemitism among her colleagues.
“佩洛西声称她希望那些声音在她的党内被边缘化,然而她表明自己对同事的反犹言论充耳不闻,对急于纠正她、让她认清问题严重程度的拉比们也充耳不闻。如果她确实是我们最好的朋友之一,我们难道不应该为此感到害怕吗?”门肯对福克斯新闻数字频道说。
"Pelosi claims she wants for those voices to be marginalized within her party, yet she demonstrates that she has turned a deaf ear, both to antisemitic expression from her colleagues, and to the rabbis anxious to set her straight on the magnitude of the problem. If she is indeed one of our best friends, should we not be scared by that?" Menken told Fox News Digital.