纽约讯——日本有望在开发针对本国国防需求的人工智能体系方面占据优势，Palantir Technologies首席执行官亚历克斯·卡普在接受《日经新闻》独家采访时表示，这表明这家美国大数据分析公司渴望向日本自卫队提供人工智能系统。
NEW YORK -- Japan could gain an edge in developing its own AI stack tailored to the country's defense needs, Palantir Technologies CEO Alex Karp said in an exclusive interview with Nikkei, signaling the U.S. big data analytics firm's eagerness to supply AI systems to the Japan Self-Defense Forces.
他强调，日本私营部门需要自行开发、训练和控制其人工智能模型，以保护其知识产权。
He stressed Japan's private sector needs to develop, train and control its own AI models to protect its intellectual property.
Palantir由卡普、科技巨头彼得·蒂尔等人于2003年创立，该公司开发了专有的人工智能系统，能够从海量的碎片化数据集中快速识别最佳解决方案。它是科技行业中在军事和情报领域嵌入最深的参与者之一。
Founded in 2003 by Karp, tech titan Peter Thiel and others, Palantir has developed proprietary AI systems that rapidly identify optimal solutions from vast fragmented data sets. It is among the tech industry's most deeply embedded players in the military and intelligence sectors.
据称，美军利用Palantir的技术，将目标选择所需时间从12小时缩短至仅一分钟。
The U.S. military is said to have cut the time needed to select targets from 12 hours to just one minute using Palantir's technology.
关于日本的下一代国防系统，卡普表示，挑战在于开发一套专门针对保护该国边界和领土的人工智能产品，而不是为像美国那样庞大的军事机构建设系统。
On Japan's next-generation defense systems, Karp said the challenge was to develop a suite of AI products focused specifically on defending the country's borders and territory, rather than building systems for a vast military establishment like that of the U.S.
日本正考虑将人工智能引入自卫队的指挥控制系统，Palantir是该领域的领先竞争者之一。
Japan is considering introducing AI into the Self-Defense Force's command-and-control systems, an area in which Palantir is a leading contender.
卡普对哲学和历史有着浓厚兴趣，他赞扬了日本的军事传统，称其将军制度根源具有“更主权、更忠诚的文化，且腐败程度远低”，并表示，从历史上看，日本一直保持着规模相对较小但具备世界级能力的军事组织。
Karp, who has a deep interest in philosophy and history, praised Japan's military tradition, saying its shogunate roots have a "more so sovereign, more loyal culture and [with] much lower corruption" and that, historically, Japan has maintained a relatively small military organization with world-class capabilities.
“因此，日本现代的人工智能技术栈将在很大程度上建立在使日本成为世界上更重要的致命作战国家之一的特质之上，”他说。这可能会让日本“在遭受攻击时占据优势”。美国和中国预计将主导全球人工智能模型市场。针对日本推动开发专有人工智能模型，卡普表示，“除了美国或中国，任何国家要拥有那整套技术栈都不现实。”虽然“这在未来五年内不会发生”，但他“非常希望这能在日本实现”，同时日本逐步引入美国技术。
"So the modern AI stack in Japan will be very much built upon the attributes that made Japan one of the more important lethal warfighting countries in the world," he said. This could give Japan "an edge if attacked." The U.S. and China are expected to dominate the global market for AI models. Commenting on Japan's push to develop proprietary AI models, Karp said, "It's not realistic for any country besides America or China to own that whole stack." Although "that's not going to happen in the next five years," he would "really hope it will happen in Japan" while the country gradually brings in American technology.
卡普表示，帕兰提尔的系统已部署在乌克兰和中东地区。在乌克兰，“最高效、最致命的武器是由人工智能驱动的无人机。”在以色列，“这真的是人类与人工智能的混合体。是大型物体、战斗机和人类操作员的混合体。”帕兰提尔的股价在过去三年里飙升了十五倍。其商业业务增长也很强劲，包括供应链优化，今年4至6月季度的收入较去年同期大致翻了一番。
Karp said Palantir's systems have been deployed in Ukraine and the Middle East. In Ukraine, "the most effective and lethal weapons are drones powered by AI." In Israel, "it's really a hybrid of humans and AI. It's a hybrid of large objects, fighter planes and human operatives." Palantir's shares have soared fifteenfold in the past three years. Growth has also been strong in its commercial business, including supply chain optimization, with revenue roughly doubling from a year earlier in the April-June quarter.
“日本拥有巨大优势，因为它采用了最佳实践，这加速了日本的发展，”卡普说，暗示人工智能采用还有进一步空间。卡普警告不要将专有诀窍输入人工智能模型，强调需要“确保知识不会流露给其他任何人”。“对于属于你独特诀窍的东西，你真的想转向使用应用层之类的东西，”卡普说。用专有知识产权训练外部人工智能模型可能会间接帮助使用相同模型的其他公司。
"Japan had a huge advantage because it was adopting the best practices, and that accelerated Japan," Karp said, suggesting there is further room for AI adoption. Karp warned against putting proprietary know-how into AI models, stressing the need to "make sure the knowledge doesn't go out to anyone else." "For things that are your unique know-how, you really want to move to using something like an application layer," Karp said. Training external AI models on proprietary intellectual property could indirectly help other companies using the same models.
亚历克斯·卡普表示，“我们可以从日本学到很多”，那里“中产阶级占主导地位”的社会使该国“如此稳定”。Palantir的技术允许客户在内部运行AI系统，与外部网络隔离。他说，日本拥有数百年历史的企业和专业的制造方法。
Alex Karp says that "we can learn a lot from Japan," where a "middle class dominated" society made the country "so stable." Palantir's technology allows customers to operate AI systems internally, isolated from external networks. He said Japan has companies with hundreds of years of history and specialized manufacturing methods.
他说，日本在“如何建设、如何构想、如何增强、如何培训”方面拥有“数百年的传统”。他补充说，日本需要在特定领域的专业知识上训练AI，“而不将这些诀窍发送到世界各地”。卡普以直言不讳的言论著称，曾因声称科技公司有责任捍卫西方价值观并为国防做贡献而引发争议。
Japan has "hundreds of years of tradition on how to build, how to conceive, how to augment, how to train," he said. Japan, he added, needs to train AI on domain-specific expertise "without sending that know-how across the world." Karp is known for his outspoken remarks and has stirred controversy by claiming that technology companies have a responsibility to defend Western values and contribute to national defense.
他再次强调了他的紧迫感，警告称如果日本、美国和欧洲在采用AI方面落后，“中国就会在商业和国防两方面都获胜。”
He once again underscored his sense of urgency, warning that if Japan, the U.S. and Europe fall behind in adopting AI, "China just wins [both] in commercial and defense."
在最近一场关于AI监管的争论中，卡普表示，如果AI造成危害，“如果出了问题”，AI模型公司“必须承担责任”。
In a recent argument over AI regulations, Karp said that if AI causes harm and "if things go wrong," AI model companies "have to be liable."
他还指出，AI最大的问题是“不成比例的财富”流向了“极少数人。……我的财富可能会多20倍，如果任由这种情况发展，这对我们的政治非常不利。”
He also pointed out the biggest issue with AI is that "disproportionate wealth" goes to "a very, very small number of people. ... I could be 20 times wealthier, and that is very bad for our politics if left alone."