播客主持人乔·罗根周六表示，进步主义意识形态已取代宗教，成为许多左派人士的信仰，并指出部分人正将其政治信仰注入基督教。
Podcaster Joe Rogan argued Saturday that progressive ideology has replaced religion for many on the left and that some are injecting their political beliefs into Christianity.
罗根称，他认为左派“疯狂得多”，因为左派中很大一部分人已拥抱世俗主义。
Rogan said he believed the left was "much more loony" than the right because a large portion of the left has embraced secularism.
“说到左派，你通常不会想到基督教或任何宗教。更多的是一种基于科学的态度，‘我们太聪明了，不信那套。’我觉得他们就是迷失了，”罗根在其播客节目中说。“没有道德脚手架可供依靠。”
"Like when you think about the left, you generally don't think about like Christianity or any religion really. It's more of like a science-based like, ‘We're too smart for that thing.’And I think they're just lost," Rogan said on his podcast. "There's no moral scaffolding to hold on to."
罗根进而主张，拥有像《十诫》这样的共同准则，并对更高力量保持谦卑，对社会有益。他表示，对许多自由派人士而言，极左政治意识形态已成为他们的新宗教，甚至到了试图将自由派信仰植入传统基督教的地步。
2026 MIDTERM ELECTION DAY RESULTS: Rogan went on to argue that having a shared code like the Ten Commandments and showing humility toward a higher power are good for society. He said that for many liberals, far-left political ideology has become their new religion, to the point where they try to inject their liberal beliefs into traditional Christianity.
“宗教方面另一件有趣的事是，左派中出现了比正常情况多得多的、比如LGBT牧师，以及宣扬一种截然不同基督教的人，”罗根说。“他们谈论的东西，圣经学者会说，‘嘿，等一下，这在哪一页？什么？哪里说堕胎可以？你们怎么得出这个结论的？哪里说上帝是非二元性别的？’”“你知道，存在这种怪异——这种‘觉醒’怪异渗入了宗教，一些牧师在这么做。你会想，‘好吧，这好吗？’我不知道这好不好，”他说。
"Another thing that's interesting with the religious thing when it comes to the left is there's been this larger than normal presence of these, like, LGBT pastors and these people that are promoting a very different Christianity," Rogan said. "They're talking about things that, you know, biblical scholars are like, ‘Hey, wait, what page is this on? What? Where does it say abortion's OK? Like, how are you getting to that? Where does it say God's non-binary?’" "You know, there's a lot of this weirdness — that this woke weirdness that sort of entered into religion and some pastors are doing it.
“因为你们没有遵循原本的东西。”罗根接着说，如果圣经中有什么该面对现代清算，那首先应是关于奴隶制和种族灭绝战争的经文，远早于人们质疑上帝的性别认同。
And you go, ‘OK, is that good?’I don't know if that's good," he said. "Because you're not following the original stuff." Rogan went on to say that if anything in the Bible is due for a modern reckoning, it would be biblical passages about slavery and genocidal warfare first, long before people try questioning God’s gender identity.
他的嘉宾、“Triggernometry”联合主持人弗朗西斯·福斯特表示赞同，回忆起自己的天主教成长经历，并将其与更现代化的英格兰教会礼拜仪式进行了对比。福斯特说，如果一个人要信教，就想要“货真价实”的东西，一种对自己严肃对待的信仰。“你想听拉丁语！”罗根说。
His guest, "Triggernometry" co-host Francis Foster, agreed, recalling his Catholic upbringing and comparing it with a more modernized Church of England service. Foster said that if one is going to be religious, you want "the real deal," a faith that takes itself seriously. "You want to hear the Latin!" Rogan said.
“你想要真材实料，”福斯特接着说，指出真正的宗教需要一种对恶行的道德后果感，并说：“你想坐在那里对自己想，‘操，我要下地狱了，那将会很可怕。’” “Word on Fire”创始人、明尼苏达州温诺纳-罗切斯特教区主教罗伯特·巴伦在接受Fox News Digital采访时表示，他基本同意罗根观点的实质内容。
"You want the good stuff," Foster continued, noting that a genuine religion needs a sense of moral consequences for bad deeds and saying, "You want to sit there and think to yourself, ‘F---, I'm going to hell, and it's going to be awful.’" Bishop Robert Barron, founder of Word on Fire and Bishop of Winona-Rochester in Minnesota, told Fox News Digital he largely agreed with the substance of Rogan's take.
“过去几十年来，各种形式的自由派基督教妥协了信仰的教义内容，首先将伟大的教条变成了模糊的象征，随后又为了迎合进步政治议程而将其彻底清空，”他说。“考验在于某人能否诚实且热情地诵念《使徒信经》。他是否相信上帝、耶稣的神性、圣灵的力量、复活的客观真理？如果不相信，他就是在利用古典基督教作为烟幕弹。”
"For the past several decades, various forms of liberal Christianity have compromised the doctrinal content of the faith, first turning the great dogmas into vague symbols and subsequently evacuating them completely in favor of the progressive political agenda," he said. "The test is whether someone can honestly and with enthusiasm to the Apostles’ Creed. Does he believe in God, in the divinity of Jesus, in the power of the Holy Spirit, in the objective truth of the Resurrection? If not, he is using classical Christianity as a smokescreen."