参议院多数党超级政治行动委员会（Senate Majority PAC）主席JB·波尔施（JB Poersch）对美国政治新闻网（POLITICO）表示，该组织正在权衡在一些偏红州应该扮演什么角色，随着参议院竞选形势的改善，这些州现在似乎已变得具有竞争力。
Senate Majority PAC President JB Poersch told POLITICO the group is weighing what roles it should play in redder states that now appear to be competitive on an improving Senate map. The leaders of Senate Democrats’ flagship super PAC are “actively thinking” about whether to wade into Kansas and other even redder states as the party looks to leverage an increasingly favorable environment ahead of November.
参议院民主党核心超级政治行动委员会的领导层正在“积极思考”是否要介入堪萨斯州以及其他更红的州，因为该党正希望在11月到来之前利用日益有利的政治环境。
“There’s some good arguments out in not just Kansas, in four or five other places. And we’re not just watching — we’re thinking about ways we might get involved if they stay earnestly competitive,” said JB Poersch, the president of Senate Majority PAC. “We’re actively thinking about what role will we play at that point.” Poersch also indicated the group may get involved in Texas, though it’s unclear to what extent. Late Thursday, Texas Forever, a new super PAC affiliated with SMP, wased with the Federal Election Commission.
“不仅在堪萨斯州，在其他四五个地方也有一些很好的论点。我们不仅在观望——如果这些地方依然保持真正的竞争力，我们正在考虑如何参与其中，”参议院多数党超级政治行动委员会主席JB·波尔施表示，“我们正在积极思考到那时我们将发挥什么作用。”波尔施还暗示该组织可能会介入得克萨斯州，尽管目前尚不清楚介入的程度。周四晚些时候，一个隶属于该委员会的新超级政治行动委员会“得克萨斯永远”（Texas Forever）已向联邦选举委员会（Federal Election Commission）进行了登记。
“There’s some good arguments out in not just Kansas, in four or five other places. And we’re not just watching — we’re thinking about ways we might get involved if they stay earnestly competitive,” said JB Poersch, the president of Senate Majority PAC. “We’re actively thinking about what role will we play at that point.” Poersch also indicated the group may get involved in Texas, though it’s unclear to what extent. Late Thursday, Texas Forever, a new super PAC affiliated with SMP, wased with the Federal Election Commission. Poersch’s comments, during a conversation at POLITICO’s office on Thursday, are one of top Democrats’ clearest signals yet about how much they believe the Senate map has shifted in their favor amid voter frustration with the economy and the Trump administration.
波尔施周四在POLITICO办公室接受采访时的言论，是民主党高层迄今为止发出的最清晰信号之一，表明他们认为，在选民对经济和特朗普政府感到沮丧的背景下，参议院的竞选版图已经向有利于他们的方向发生了多大程度的转变。
Still, Poersch is clear-eyed about the challenges Democrats face in seizing what once was a longshot Senate majority given a tough map.
尽管如此，面对艰难的竞选形势，波尔施对民主党人要想夺取曾经被认为希望渺茫的参议院多数席位所面临的挑战依然保持着清醒的认识。
The party needs to net four seats. Even if they hold Georgia, Michigan and New Hampshire and flip Maine and North Carolina, they’d need to pick up two more seats in the redder turf of Iowa, Ohio, Alaska and Texas — states President Donald Trump won by double digits in 2024. Democrats are being heavily outspent by Republicans on the airwaves in each of those races except Georgia — and are squabbling over where to divvy up their limited resources.
该党需要净增四个席位。即便他们守住佐治亚州、密歇根州和新罕布什尔州，并翻盘缅因州和北卡罗来纳州，他们仍需在艾奥瓦州、俄亥俄州、阿拉斯加州和得克萨斯州这几个更倾向于共和党的阵地再夺取两个席位——这些都是唐纳德·特朗普总统在2024年以两位数优势获胜的州。除了佐治亚州之外，在上述每一场竞选中，民主党在电视广告上的支出都被共和党远远抛在后面，并且还在为有限的资源该如何在各州分配而争论不休。
The party needs to net four seats. Even if they hold Georgia, Michigan and New Hampshire and flip Maine and North Carolina, they’d need to pick up two more seats in the redder turf of Iowa, Ohio, Alaska and Texas — states President Donald Trump won by double digits in 2024. Democrats are being heavily outspent by Republicans on the airwaves in each of those races except Georgia — and are squabbling over where to divvy up their limited resources. “Things shift. If races get less competitive, where there’s a lot of money, it might free up some money in other places,” Poersch said. “Fundraising continues to be really good. The bad guys have a lot of money. But we still feel like we have options in terms of making choices.” Here’s more from POLITICO’s chat with Poersch, edited for length and clarity.
“情况总是在变化。如果某些选举的竞争性减弱（尤其是在那些涉及巨额资金的选举中），那么这些资金可能会被重新分配到其他地方，”波尔施说道。“我们的筹款工作依然进展顺利；不过那些反对我们的人确实拥有大量资金。不过，我们仍然觉得自己有选择的空间。”以下是《Politico》与波尔施的对话内容（经过编辑，以缩短篇幅并提高清晰度）：
What likelihood do you think the Democrats take the Senate at this point? I’m not going to speculate on what the likelihood is. We have good candidates with a really challenging map. … And we’ve got a very long way to go.
你认为民主党在这时有多大机会赢得参议院的控制权？“我不会去猜测具体概率。我们拥有优秀的候选人，但面临的选举形势非常严峻……而且我们还有很长的路要走。”
Even starting from a year and a half ago, the whole argument was: ‘Wow, this is a really hard map. It just has to get better day by day.’ And generally it’s been that kind of cycle. But we’ve been to a lot of rodeos, especially in the red states.
其实，从一年半前开始，大家的看法就一直是：“这个选举形势实在太复杂了，只能一天天地慢慢改善。”不过情况确实一直在这样的循环中反复变化。我们参加了很多竞选活动，尤其是在那些共和党占优势的州。
Trump’s job is turnout. And he’s got to hope that he can get past [Republicans’] inability to have some kind of galvanizing message. They need to find one in the next five weeks.
特朗普的关键在于如何提高选民投票率；他必须寄希望于共和党能够找到能够激发选民热情的竞选口号或策略。他们需要在接下来的五周内找到解决办法。
And now, it’s not just turnout. They are in danger — moderate Republicans, Republican-slash-independents, they’re starting to see [defections] here rapidly. And they’ve got to have some kind of an answer on it. Let’s see what their October answer for that is. How are you guys looking at the real reach state of Kansas?
现在的问题不仅仅是投票率了——那些原本支持共和党的选民，以及那些持中立立场的选民，也开始迅速转向民主党。共和党必须对此作出回应。让我们看看他们在十月份会给出什么样的对策吧。
I think it seems competitive. We’re gonna dig in again. We have to stay open to these possibilities, too — that maybe several of the races start to show themselves in a good place, and maybe there’ll be opportunities in what almost feel like third-tier states. Once you leave that set of four, which Trump won by [low double digits], everything else there was plus-16, plus-18. He won Mississippi by 23 points.
你们如何看待堪萨斯州这个关键州的选举形势？“我认为堪萨斯州的选举竞争会非常激烈。我们会继续全力以赴。”
We have to stay open to these possibilities, too — that maybe several of the races start to show themselves in a good place, and maybe there’ll be opportunities in what almost feel like third-tier states. Once you leave that set of four, which Trump won by [low double digits], everything else there was plus-16, plus-18. He won Mississippi by 23 points.
我们还需要保持开放的心态：也许会有几场选举的胜负变得明朗起来，甚至在那些原本被认为不太重要的州（即‘第三层级’的州）也会出现机会。特朗普在堪萨斯州的胜差仅为两位数；而在密西西比州，他的胜差达到了23个百分点。
You know, those are challenging. And yet there are some good arguments out in not just Kansas, in four or five other places. And we’re not just watching — we’re thinking about ways we might get involved if they stay earnestly competitive. When I say we’re watching, I don’t know what that means. We’re actively thinking about what role will we play at that point.
你知道，这些都很有挑战性。然而，不仅是在堪萨斯州，在其他四五个地方也有一些很好的论点。我们不仅在观望——如果它们继续保持激烈的竞争力，我们也在考虑如何介入。当我说我们在观望时，我并不是指袖手旁观。我们在积极思考届时我们将扮演什么角色。在冲刺阶段，你们在宣传信息方面是如何规划的？
How are you approaching the final stretch message-wise?
强调经济和腐败问题。我认为在正面宣传方面还有工作要做。而且我认为我们的候选人在阐述民生问题以及他们将如何来到华盛顿并试图施压特朗普改变其优先事项方面，表现出了相当不错的天赋。因此，我们仍将立足于这里一段时间以来一直奏效的方法。
Emphasizing the economy, corruption. I think that there is still work to do with the positive messaging. And I think our candidates have shown a pretty good flair for making the arguments about bread-and-butter issues and how they’re going to come to Washington and try and press Trump to change his priorities. So we’re still going to be grounded in things that have been working here for a while. What could happen in the next five weeks that would make things harder for your candidates?
在接下来的五周里，可能会发生什么让你们的候选人的处境变得更加艰难的事情？
We take the money seriously, and so it forces us to make every dollar count. Strategically, [Republicans’] advantage is the money piece. And they’re trying to make an advantage of blowing up voter protection and making it harder for Americans to vote. There’s work to be done there, too, in making sure that there’s a lot of awareness and people feel safe in this process and that they’re going out there.
我们对资金问题采取严肃的态度，这迫使我们让每一美元都发挥作用。从战略上讲，[共和党人的]优势在于资金。他们正试图通过破坏选民保护、让美国人投票变得更加困难来制造优势。在这方面同样有工作要做，那就是要确保有高度的公众意识，让人们在这个过程中感到安全并踊跃投票。
We take the money seriously, and so it forces us to make every dollar count. Strategically, [Republicans’] advantage is the money piece. And they’re trying to make an advantage of blowing up voter protection and making it harder for Americans to vote. There’s work to be done there, too, in making sure that there’s a lot of awareness and people feel safe in this process and that they’re going out there.
你们对民主党捐赠者的说辞是什么，说明更多的资金现在能发挥什么作用？
What’s your pitch to Democratic donors for what more money can do right now?
资源帮助我们巩固各州的阵地。资源帮助我们潜在地扩大版图。但最主要的是，我们要明白，如果我们有机会——如果你想赢得每一场参议院选举，你是可以做到的。这是首要目标。而赢得多数席位的第二个目标是在几个红州取胜——尤其是得克萨斯州和俄亥俄州——这些都是大州，也是花钱如流水的州。你可以在这些地方源源不断地砸钱，无休无止。因此，资源仍然是必不可少的，如果我们拥有资源，我们就能增加胜算。
Resources help us shore up states. Resources help us potentially expand the map. But mostly, it’s about knowing that if we have a chance to — if you want to win every Senate race, you can. That’s goal one. And goal two of the majority is winning in red states that several of — Texas and Ohio, especially — these are big states, they’re expensive states. You can spend money in these places forever, forever. So resources are still necessary, and we increase our chances if we have the resources.
除了共和党人的资金优势之外，目前还有什么事情让你们忧心忡忡？
Besides Republicans’ money advantage, what’s keeping you up at night right now?
够了，不是吗？从一开始，这个过程就充满了挑战……从战略角度来看，我非常钦佩领袖查克·舒默（Chuck Schumer）的领导能力。我们已经有合适的候选人了，资源也很充足，战略也制定得很完善。现在，我们只需要完成剩下的工作就行了。
That’s enough, isn’t it? It’s been a challenging cycle right from the get-go. … Strategically, I give Leader [Chuck] Schumer a lot of credit. We’ve got the candidates; the resources have been solid, and so’s the strategy. So now we’ve got to finish.