《NAZA》的制片人周六在该片北美首映礼(纽约)上为其调查结果进行了辩护,此前该纪录片揭露了以色列在加沙对巴勒斯坦人实施的系统性大规模杀戮,引发了以色列国内的抗议,以色列官员升级威胁要剥夺他们的公民身份。
The film-makers behind NAZA, the award-winning documentary on Israel’s systemic mass killing of Palestinians in Gaza, defended their findings at the film’s North American premiere in New York on Saturday, amid protests in Israel and escalating threats from Israeli officials to strip them of their citizenship.
这部广受好评的纪录片由奥斯卡获奖制片人尤瓦尔·亚伯拉罕和拉切尔·佐尔执导,《卫报》出品,收录了24名参与监视和远程杀害加沙巴勒斯坦平民的以色列士兵和情报官员的匿名证词,他们描述了用于选择目标的AI驱动系统。该项目的名称源自以色列情报机构使用的一个委婉语首字母缩写,用以表明预期某次空袭会造成多少平民死亡,此类空袭往往在夜间针对民宅实施,一次性夺走包括儿童在内的多名家庭成员的生命。
The critically acclaimed film, directed by Oscar-winning film-makers Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor and produced by the Guardian, features the testimony of 24 anonymized Israeli soldiers and intelligence officers involved in the surveillance and remote killing of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, who describe the AI-powered systems used to select their targets. The project takes its name from an acronym used euphemistically by Israeli intelligence to indicate how many civilians it expects to die in an airstrike, which are often conducted at night in private homes, killing many family members, including children, at once.
“我们的国家竭尽全力隐瞒这些系统,”佐尔在首映后的问答环节对纽约电影节观众表示,“即使对以色列公众,这也不是一个公开透明的世界。”
“Our country is doing so much to hide these systems,” Szor told the audience at the New York film festival in a Q&A that followed the film’s premiere. “It’s not a world that is open even to the Israeli public.”
“你们看到的这些罪行正在持续发生,”亚伯拉罕说,“之所以持续,是因为这是我们国家在做的事,也是因为你们的国家在支持和资助这一切。”这部时长80分钟的纪录片秘密拍摄于特拉维夫的屋顶,基于2023年至2025年《卫报》、以色列-巴勒斯坦出版物《+972 Magazine》以及希伯来语媒体《Local Call》发布的报道制作而成。本月早些时候,该片在威尼斯电影节举行全球首映,获得了长达25分钟的起立鼓掌——创下电影节纪录,并最终斩获评审团特别奖。
“These crimes that you saw are ongoing,” Abraham said. “They’re ongoing because it’s what our country is doing, and because of what your country is supporting and funding.” The 80-minute documentary, filmed in secret on rooftops in Tel Aviv, builds on reporting published from 2023 to 2025 in the Guardian; +972 Magazine, an Israeli-Palestinian publication; and Hebrew-language outlet Local Call. It held its world premiere earlier this month at the Venice film festival, where it received a 25-minute standing ovation – a festival record – and went on to win the special jury prize.
这部影片遭到以色列官员的猛烈嘲讽,制片人也收到威胁,正值紧张的选举季,选举主要聚焦于本雅明·内塔尼亚胡在加沙的持续军事行动,该行动迄今已造成73000多名巴勒斯坦人死亡,并被联合国等众多国际机构认定为种族灭绝。
The film has been met with fierce derision from Israeli officials as well as threats to the film-makers, amid a tense election season largely focused on Benjamin Netanyahu’s ongoing campaign in Gaza, which has killed more than 73,000 Palestinians to date and has been declared a genocide by numerous international agencies, including the United Nations.
周六下午,数十名抗议者聚集在林肯中心影片首映式外,挥舞以色列国旗和标语,呼吁观众“了解事实”,了解2023年10月7日哈马斯袭击以色列平民的事件。至少一辆装有LED屏幕的卡车在剧院周围绕行,屏幕指责NAZA是“披着纪录片外衣的宣传品”。
A couple dozen protesters gathered outside the film’s premiere at the Lincoln Center on Saturday afternoon, brandishing Israeli flags and signs calling for viewers to “learn the facts” of the 7 October 2023 attacks by Hamas on Israeli civilians. At least one truck with LED screens accusing NAZA of being “propaganda dressed up as a documentary” circled the theater.
NAZA在纽约市的首映礼,恰逢以色列总理在联合国大会上(就在中央公园对面)为以色列在加沙使用致命武力进行激烈辩护的第二天。当数百名抗议者在场外聚集、数十名外交官在场内退场以声援巴勒斯坦人时,内塔尼亚胡称以色列在加沙的战争是“种族灭绝的对立面”,并谴责以色列的批评者。内塔尼亚胡此前曾表示,将寻求新法律,剥夺因NAZA而“诽谤”以色列士兵者的公民权。
NAZA’s New York City premiere came just a day after the Israeli prime minister offered an aggressive defense of Israel’s use of deadly force in Gaza just across Central Park to the UN general assembly. As hundreds of protesters gathered outside and dozens of diplomats inside walked out in solidarity with Palestinians, Netanyahu called Israel’s war in Gaza the “opposite of genocide” and denounced Israel’s critics. Netanyahu had previously said he would seek new laws to strip citizenship from people who “smear” Israeli soldiers in response to NAZA.
“因此,向所有散布这些关于我国及我们勇敢士兵谎言的人,无论他们坐在这个大厅里,还是坐在反犹太主义的纽约市长办公室里,我要说:你们可耻!”他在周四说道。
“So, to all those spreading these lies about my country and about our brave soldiers, whether they sit in this hall or in the office of the antisemitic mayor of New York, I say this: shame on you!” he said Thursday.
周五,内塔尼亚胡重申将推进立法,撤销亚伯拉罕和索尔的公民权,二人是《无别的土地》四位制片人中的两位,该片毫不留情地审视以色列占领下的约旦河西岸,并获得2025年奥斯卡最佳纪录片奖。在接受以色列保守派媒体《马科尔·里雄报》采访时,他将NAZA比作“向以色列发射数十枚弹道导弹”。
On Friday, Netanyahu reiterated his plan to advance legislation revoking the citizenship of Abraham and Szor, two of the four film-makers behind No Other Land, an unstinting look at the Israeli-occupied West Bank, which won the Oscar for best documentary in 2025. In an interview with the conservative Israeli outlet Makor Rishon, he likened NAZA to “launching dozens of ballistic missiles” at Israel.
亚伯拉罕在放映后的问答环节中直接回应了关于“导弹”的评论,将这种描述称为“将新闻业和此类工作定罪”。
Abraham addressed the missile comment directly in the post-screening Q&A, referring to such a characterization as “the criminalization of journalism and of this kind of work”.
他还为影片使用匿名消息来源进行了辩护,称这是揭露被以色列国家隐瞒的大规模杀戮体系所必需的。“在调查性新闻的历史上,给予消息来源保密权往往是追求真相的一种手段,”他说。“这部电影无法用其他任何方式制作,而且由于罪行仍在持续,我们觉得制作它非常重要。”除了内塔尼亚胡,以色列文化部长米基·佐哈尔也呼吁剥夺制片人的公民身份,并指控他们“背叛国家”。以色列国防军参谋长埃亚尔·扎米尔表示,军方将“不允许国防军士兵因谎言和血腥诽谤而成为攻击目标”,并将动用“我们掌握的一切工具”对抗这部电影。
He also defended the film’s use of anonymous sources as necessary to expose systems of mass killing hidden by the Israeli state. “Throughout the history of investigative journalism, very often granting confidentiality to sources is a means to pursue the truth,” he said. “This film could not have been made any other way and because the crimes are ongoing, we felt that it was important to make it.” Along with Netanyahu, Israel’s culture minister, Miki Zohar, has called for the film-makers’ citizenship to be revoked, and accused them of “treason against the state”. The IDF’s chief of staff, Eyal Zamir, said the military would “not allow IDF soldiers to be made targets through lies and blood libels” and would use “every tool at our disposal” against the film.
右翼活动人士甚至走得更远,呼吁对这两人实施暴力。本月初,数十名煽动者包围了索尔父母位于以色列中部的住所,一名抗议者高呼“叛徒该死”。
Rightwing activists have gone even further, calling for violence against the pair. Earlier this month, dozens of agitators surrounded Szor’s parents’ home in central Israel, with one protester calling for the “death penalty for traitors”.
超过1500名以色列电影从业者、43个以色列人权组织以及主要国际电影节的总监都为亚伯拉罕和索尔辩护,众多国际新闻自由组织也表达了支持。该片目前定于下个月在55个国家的影院上映,随后将于11月在《卫报》网站上免费进行全球数字发布,作为该机构致力于传播独立新闻业的一部分。
More than 1,500 Israeli film professionals, 43 Israeli human rights organizations and the directors of major international festivals have defended Abraham and Szor, as have numerous international press freedom organizations. The film is currently set for release next month in cinemas in 55 countries, before a digital global release, for free, on the Guardian’s website in November, as part of the organization’s commitment to the dissemination of independent journalism.
但周六的美国首映具有特殊的共鸣,鉴于美国每年向以色列提供38亿美元的军事援助——制片人向纽约市的观众指出了这一关联。
But the US premiere Saturday held particular resonance, given the country’s annual $3.8bn in military assistance to Israel – a connection the film-makers noted to the New York City crowd.
“这些士兵讲述的,是坐在这里的纳税人的钱被用来做了什么,”亚伯拉罕说。
“These soldiers are talking about what has been done with the taxpayer money of the people sitting here,” said Abraham.
他还回应了剧院外援引10月7日袭击事件的抗议者。“这在影片中有呈现,而且完全无法被辩解,”他谈到这场大屠杀时说,那次袭击造成1200名以色列人死亡,其中大多数是平民。“但这也无法为你们在影片中所看到的一切辩解。这不能为加沙地带如此多平民的屠杀辩解。”
He also responded to the protesters outside the theater invoking the attacks of October 7. “It’s in the film and it’s completely unjustified,” he said of the massacre, which killed 1,200 Israelis, most of them civilians. “But it also cannot justify what you’ve seen in the film. It doesn’t justify the slaughter of so many civilians in Gaza.”
“我不想生活在一个正当的对以色列受害者的同情被内塔尼亚胡等领导人武器化的世界里——这些愤世嫉俗之徒承诺的只有永无止境的占领和战争,”他补充道。“这种同情被武器化,变成了对巴勒斯坦人缺乏同理心,变成了这种持续不断的杀戮和谋杀。我不认为我们应该想生活在这样的世界里。我认为我们都应该拒绝参与这种零和博弈。”
“I don’t want to live in a world where rightful empathy to Israeli victims is weaponized by leaders like Netanyahu – cynical people who promise nothing other than perpetual occupation and war,” he added. “It’s weaponized to mean a lack of empathy to Palestinians, to mean this continuous killing and murder of people. I don’t think we should want to live in such a world. I think we should all refuse to play this zero-sum game.”