随着魁北克人党(Parti Québécois)在民调中领先,该党正面临有关魁北克独立所带来的经济影响的质疑,而一项关于阿尔伯塔省独立的新研究提供了一个发人深省的对比案例。
With the Parti Québécois leading in the polls, the party is facing questions about the economic impact of Quebec independence — and a new study on Alberta separation offers a sobering point of comparison.
如果魁北克人党能够组建政府,党魁保罗·圣皮埃尔·普拉蒙东(Paul St-Pierre Plamondon)已承诺在唐纳德·特朗普的美国总统任期于2029年1月结束后,举行一场独立公投。
If his party forms government, PQ Leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon has promised to hold a vote on independence after U.S. President Donald Trump's term ends in January 2029. The delay, St-Pierre Plamondon has argued, is necessary because the unpredictability of Trump's administration would undermine the project. It would be the first time since Jacques Parizeau’s 1994 government that the PQ would take power with the promise to hold a referendum.
圣皮埃尔·普拉蒙东认为,这种推迟是必要的,因为特朗普政府的不可预测性会破坏这一计划。这将是自雅克·帕里佐(Jacques Parizeau)1994年执政以来,魁北克人党首次在承诺举行公投的情况下上台执政。
The PQ’s 2026 costed platform outlines a $130-million price tag for preparing and holding a referendum. The party's broader — spanning more than 500 pages — paints a rosy picture of independence, and frames separation as a net financial benefit.
魁北克人党2026年的成本纲领列出了1.3亿加元的预算,用于筹备和举行公投。该党更广泛的纲领长达500多页,描绘了一幅独立后的美好蓝图,并将分离主义描述为一种净财务收益。
"The goal is to end federal waste that duplicates everything we do and loses money like nowhere else, costing us billions of dollars," St-Pierre Plamondon said last month.
“我们的目标是结束联邦政府的浪费,他们重复了我们所做的一切,并且在其他任何地方都无法比拟地亏损,这让我们损失了数十亿加元,”圣皮埃尔·普拉蒙东上个月表示。
According to the document, independence would yield $13 billion to $16 billion in administrative savings by eliminating or merging most of the roughly 230 federal agencies operating in the province.
根据该文件,通过取消或合并在魁北克省运作的大约230个联邦机构中的大多数,独立将带来130亿至160亿加元的行政成本节约。
But the does not fully cover other state expenses, such as establishing an independent military or border services. The PQ contends it would maintain an open border with Canada and reroute tax money currently directed to the Canadian military at no extra cost.
但该文件并未完全涵盖其他国家支出,例如建立独立的军队或边境服务机构。魁北克人党声称,它将维持与加拿大的开放边界,并将目前流向加拿大军队的税款重新分配,而无需额外成本。
A $170B cautionary tale A recent report examining the possibility of an independent Alberta, however, presents a more complex economic reality.
一个价值1700亿加元的警示故事。然而,最近一份研究阿尔伯塔省独立可能性的报告呈现了一个更为复杂的经济现实。
The report, commissioned by the Alberta government and conducted by experts at the University of Calgary, found that Alberta’s separation from Canada could cost between $50 billion and $170 billion over a five-year period.
这份由阿尔伯塔省政府委托、卡尔加里大学专家进行的报告发现,阿尔伯塔省脱离加拿大在五年内可能耗资500亿至1700亿加元。很难看出魁北克独立能带来什么经济上的好处。
It's hard to see the economic upside from Quebec independence. It lays out two possible scenarios — a “smooth” option, in which negotiations to exit Canada would be quick and favourable to Alberta, and a “difficult” option, in which those negotiations would drag on and be unfavourable to the province.
报告提出了两种可能的情景:一种是“顺利”的情况,即退出加拿大的谈判会迅速进行,并对阿尔伯塔省有利;另一种是“困难”的情况,谈判会拖延且对阿尔伯塔省不利。
Tim Sargent, the lead economist on the report, said in an interview that the cost to the Quebec economy and its finances would likely be comparable.
该报告的主要经济学家蒂姆·萨金特(Tim Sargent)在采访中表示,魁北克独立对其经济和财政造成的影响可能是相似的。
"It's hard to see the economic upside from Quebec independence," said Sargent, a longtime economic expert in the federal civil service and the director of economic growth and prosperity at University of Calgary's school of public policy.
“很难看到魁北克独立带来的经济好处,”萨金特说。他是联邦政府长期从事经济研究的专家,同时也是卡尔加里大学公共政策学院的经济增长与繁荣研究主任。
"It wouldn't be hard for me to see losses in GDP, maybe not quite as high as we have for Alberta, but — choose my words carefully here — a similar order of magnitude is not unreasonable." AnalysisThe tangled what-ifs of Alberta separation ExclusiveWith time running out, new poll suggests Alberta separatism support is slipping In terms of the province's finances, he said a sovereign Quebec would "face a bigger risk premium" that would increase interest rates throughout the economy. This could be passed on to consumers, raising interest rates on people's mortgages and lines of credit.
“我认为魁北克的GDP可能会出现下降;虽然降幅可能不会像阿尔伯塔省那么大,但降幅达到类似的数量级也是完全有可能的。”
"It wouldn't be hard for me to see losses in GDP, maybe not quite as high as we have for Alberta, but — choose my words carefully here — a similar order of magnitude is not unreasonable." AnalysisThe tangled what-ifs of Alberta separation ExclusiveWith time running out, new poll suggests Alberta separatism support is slipping In terms of the province's finances, he said a sovereign Quebec would "face a bigger risk premium" that would increase interest rates throughout the economy. This could be passed on to consumers, raising interest rates on people's mortgages and lines of credit.
随着时间的推移,新的民意调查显示阿尔伯塔省支持独立的比例正在下降。在财政方面,萨金特指出,一个独立的魁北克将面临更高的风险溢价,这会导致整个经济的利率上升,进而影响消费者的房贷和信贷成本。
"It wouldn't be hard for me to see losses in GDP, maybe not quite as high as we have for Alberta, but — choose my words carefully here — a similar order of magnitude is not unreasonable." AnalysisThe tangled what-ifs of Alberta separation ExclusiveWith time running out, new poll suggests Alberta separatism support is slipping In terms of the province's finances, he said a sovereign Quebec would "face a bigger risk premium" that would increase interest rates throughout the economy. This could be passed on to consumers, raising interest rates on people's mortgages and lines of credit.
他承认,魁北克的初始建设成本会较低,因为该省已经拥有诸如“魁北克税务局”(Revenu Québec)和“魁北克养老金计划”(Quebec Pension Plan)等机构。但他也指出,与阿尔伯塔省不同,魁北克没有可以用来推动经济增长的石油和天然气产业。
He acknowledged that Quebec's setup costs would be lower because it already has institutions like Revenu Québec and the Quebec Pension Plan. But he pointed out that, unlike Alberta, Quebec doesn't have an oil and gas sector it could unleash for potential economic gain. The Brexit comparison Sargent noted that exports to the rest of Canada account for about 20 per cent of both provinces' GDP.
萨金特还提到了英国脱欧的例子:对两国而言,出口到加拿大其他地区的贸易额都占其GDP的约20%。他指出,如果将省际边界转变为国际边界,贸易活动可能会受到阻碍,就像英国脱欧后经济放缓的情况一样。
He said turning an interprovincial border into an international one could slow down that trade, pointing to the economic slowdown in the United Kingdom after it left the European Union.
“看看英国脱欧后的情况吧,英国的货物出口量大幅下降,”萨金特说。
"If you look at what happened after Brexit, the U.K.'s goods exports went down significantly," Sargent said.
“你再也不能直接把货物从多佛运到加来,而无需填写任何表格。如果魁北克独立,情况也会一样。”这份由卡尔加里大学发布、并经独立专家组审阅的报告引用了1995年公投前在魁北克进行的历史研究,这些研究预测该省的实际国内生产总值(GDP)将萎缩1.2%至7.7%。
"You could no longer just drive stuff from Dover to Calais without having to fill in any forms. And it would be the same if Quebec left." The University of Calgary report, which was reviewed by an independent panel, cites historical studies conducted in Quebec prior to the 1995 referendum that projected a real GDP contraction for the province ranging between 1.2 per cent and 7.7 per cent.
报告作者还指出,魁北克1980年的公投时期曾因政治不确定性导致企业总部外迁,这可作为先例。
The authors also point to Quebec's 1980 referendum period as a precedent for corporate head office relocations driven by political uncertainty.
萨金特表示,该报告依赖于历史研究,因为在1995年公投后,关于魁北克独立的独立经济分析几乎销声匿迹。
The report relies on historical research because independent economic analysis on Quebec independence virtually dried up after the 1995 referendum, Sargent said.
不确定性是关键词。麦吉尔大学加拿大研究所所长丹尼尔·贝兰德表示,阿尔伯塔省的这项研究突出了任何分裂计划的一个关键要素:不确定性。
Uncertainty the operative word Daniel Béland, director of the McGill Institute for the Study of Canada, said the Alberta study highlights a key element about any secession project: uncertainty.
“有太多不同的因素会影响过渡成本,”贝兰德说,并指出了围绕经济状况、新成立国家的国际认可度以及与加拿大谈判等问题。
"There are so many different factors that can affect the cost of the transition," Béland said, pointing to questions around the state of the economy, international recognition of a newly formed state and negotiations with Canada.
“这是一个可能需要数年时间的过程,”他补充道,“很难给出一个具体的数字,但进行这种推演是有益的。”贝兰德认为,随着魁北克选民将于10月5日前往投票站,魁北克独立问题可能会成为圣皮埃尔·普拉蒙东(St-Pierre Plamondon)竞争对手攻击的重点。
"It's a process that can take years," he added. "It's hard to put an actual number on it, but it's good to have this exercise." With Quebecers heading to the polls on Oct. 5, Quebec independence could become a greater target for St-Pierre Plamondon's rivals, Béland said.
在周三的辩论中,魁北克未来联盟党领袖克里斯汀·弗雷谢特和魁北克自由党领袖查尔斯·米利亚德都认为,公投将导致经济动荡。
During Wednesday's debate, both Coalition Avenir Québec Leader Christine Fréchette and Quebec Liberal Leader Charles Milliard argued a referendum would lead to economic turmoil.
在为自己的立场辩护时,圣皮埃尔·普拉蒙东称自己是一位“乐观主义者”,站在“勇气与希望”的一边。
In defending his position, St-Pierre Plamondon has described himself as an "optimist" and on the side of "courage and hope."
“我们不应该害怕民主,”他在周三的辩论中说道,“雅克·帕里佐曾说:‘不要害怕你们的民主,不要害怕去投票,不要害怕思考我们的未来。’”
"We shouldn't be afraid of democracy," he said during Wednesday's debate. "Jacques Parizeau used to say, 'Don't be afraid of your democracy, of going to the polls, of reflecting on our future.'"