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普京:俄罗斯可能比乌克兰和欧洲预期的更早夺取顿涅茨克剩余由基辅控制的地区Russia could seize remaining Kyiv-held areas of Donetsk sooner than Ukraine, Europe anticipate: Putin

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俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京周四表示,俄罗斯预计将比乌克兰和欧洲国家预期的更早夺取顿涅茨克地区剩余的乌方控制区。

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russia expects to seize the remaining Ukrainian-held areas of the Donetsk region much sooner than Ukraine and European countries anticipate.

普京在莫斯科举行的瓦尔代国际辩论俱乐部会议上发言时表示,基辅和欧洲认为这些地区还能坚守一年半到两年。

Speaking at a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club in Moscow, Putin said Kyiv and Europe believe the areas could be held for another one-and-a-half to two years.

他说:“乌克兰高级官员称,他们将继续控制顿涅茨克人民共和国剩余11%的领土再过一年半。在欧洲,他们说乌克兰将坚守两年。鉴于我军推进的速度,我们认为(俄罗斯夺取剩余地区)将发生得早得多。”

"High-ranking officials in Ukraine say they will hold the remaining 11% of the territory of the Donetsk People’s Republic for another year and a half. In Europe, they say Ukraine will hold it for two years. We believe this (Russia’s seizure of the remaining areas) will happen much earlier, given the pace of our troops’ advance," he said.

据普京称,俄罗斯军队在9月将1301平方公里(502平方英里)纳入控制,他称这是前几个月的两个半倍,并补充说推进速度正在加快。他重申了莫斯科希望尽快通过谈判结束冲突的立场。

According to Putin, Russian forces brought 1,301 square kilometers (502 square miles) under their control in September, which he said was two and a half times more than in previous months, adding the pace of their advance was increasing. He reiterated Moscow's position about wishing to end the conflict as soon as possible through negotiations.

普京将结束冲突的条件设定为:获得西方国家的安全保障,并创造持久和平的条件。他表示,乌克兰的中立地位仍是俄罗斯的目标之一。

Putin conditioned the end of the conflict on receiving security guarantees from Western countries and creating conditions for a lasting peace. Ukraine’s neutral status also remains among Russia’s goals, he said.

普京说,解决方案应解决包括俄语和乌克兰东正教会在内的问题,并补充说,最好避免双方进一步伤亡,达成政治解决。

Putin said a settlement should address issues including the Russian language and the Orthodox Church in Ukraine, adding that it would be preferable to avoid further casualties on both sides and reach political solutions.

他还表示,俄罗斯已准备好在9月18日至21日立法选举后立即恢复谈判,但乌克兰在投票期间的袭击阻止了这一点。

He also said that Russia had been ready to resume negotiations immediately after its Sept. 18-21 legislative elections but that Ukrainian strikes during the voting prevented this.

他说:“他们自己不举行选举,却试图阻止我们。从9月19日晚到20日凌晨,发射了1600多架无人机,试图突破莫斯科的防空系统,袭击首都和其他俄罗斯地区的投票站。”

"They don't hold elections themselves, and they tried to stop us. From the evening of Sept. 19 to the morning of Sept. 20, more than 1,600 drones were launched in an attempt to breach Moscow’s air defenses and attack the capital and polling stations in other Russian regions," he said.

普京表示,俄罗斯正接到要求其停止在黑海打击乌克兰船只的呼吁,但拒绝了这一想法,称莫斯科是在乌克兰袭击俄罗斯油轮和其他载有民用货物的船只后才开始反击的。

Putin said Russia was receiving calls to stop its strikes against Ukrainian vessels in the Black Sea but rejected the idea, saying Moscow had begun responding after Ukrainian attacks on Russian tankers and other vessels carrying civilian cargo.

“现在,从各方都在告诉我们:‘你们为什么不停手?’是他们先动手的。所以去拿颗手榴弹吧,法西斯分子,从苏联士兵手里拿,”他说。

"Now, from all sides, we are being told: 'Why don't you stop?' They started it. So get a grenade, fascist, from a Soviet soldier," he said.

他说,俄罗斯在黑海的打击针对的是军舰或载有军事装备的船只,而莫斯科将对扣押俄罗斯船只的企图进行“对等”回应,无论是在波罗的海还是大西洋。

He said Russian strikes in the Black Sea had been directed at military vessels or ships carrying military equipment while Moscow would respond to attempts to detain Russian vessels “symmetrically,” whether in the Baltic or the Atlantic.

普京还将这一问题与乌克兰袭击俄罗斯炼油厂联系起来,称莫斯科通过打击对乌克兰经济至关重要的设施进行了回应。

Putin also linked the issue to Ukrainian strikes on Russian oil refineries, saying Moscow had responded by targeting facilities important to Ukraine’s economy.

他说,根据俄罗斯的估算,对俄罗斯炼油厂的袭击已使该国损失了约1%的GDP。

He said that according to Russian estimates, the attacks on Russian refineries had cost the country about 1% of its GDP.

就以停止打击乌克兰船只换取停止袭击俄罗斯炼油厂的提议发表评论时,他说,这种安排只能建立在共同利益的基础上进行讨论。

Commenting on proposals to stop strikes on Ukrainian vessels in exchange for an end to attacks on Russian refineries, he said such an arrangement could only be discussed on the basis of mutual interests.

“让他们别打你们的炼油厂,你们别打他们的船。他们说让我们让他们出口民用货物和农产品。那我们的其他民用货物,如石油、石油产品怎么办?”他说。

"Let them stop hitting your refineries, and you stop hitting their ships. Let them export civilian goods and agricultural products, they say to us. What about our other civilian cargoes such as oil, petroleum products?" he said.

他强调,俄罗斯石油和石油产品无论如何都不会进入世界市场,因为针对它们有禁令和制裁,因此这一步只会有利于乌克兰。

He emphasized that Russia oil and petroleum products will not enter the world markets in any case because there are bans and sanctions against them, and therefore, this step would only favor Ukraine.

普京还感谢了美国第一夫人梅拉尼娅·特朗普在俄乌人道主义问题上的协助。

Putin also thanked US first lady Melania Trump for assisting in humanitarian issues between Russia and Ukraine.

他还否认了俄罗斯正在将欧洲资产国有化的说法,称这是“谎言和挑衅”,并表示如果事态发展有利,西方所有者可以收回他们在俄罗斯的资产。"我们没有从任何人那里拿走任何东西,也没有将任何东西国有化,"他说,指的是影响外资资产的俄罗斯措施。

He also rejected statements that Russia was nationalizing European assets, calling them "a lie and a provocation," and said Western owners could regain their assets in Russia if conditions developed favorably. "We are not taking anything from anyone and we are not nationalizing anything," he said, referring to Russian measures affecting foreign-owned assets.

普京表示,俄罗斯正在密切监控供应给乌克兰的武器来源,区分武器交付与西方直接参与打击俄罗斯腹地目标的行为。"当有人想借别人的手来对付我们,在这种情况下是借乌克兰政权的手,实际上是在送本国人民去送死,当有人开始借别人的手来对付我们时,这当然是一种威胁,"他指出。

Putin said Russia was closely monitoring where weapons supplied to Ukraine were coming from, distinguishing between arms deliveries and direct Western involvement in strikes deep inside Russian territory. "When someone wants to fight us with someone else’s hands, in this case with the hands of the Ukrainian regime, which is effectively sending its people to be shot and killed, when someone starts fighting us with someone else’s hands, this is, of course, a threat," he noted.

他说,莫斯科没有计划攻击向乌克兰供应武器的国家,总体上也没有计划攻击任何西方国家,“无论是2029年、2030年还是2050年”,但他认为参与打击俄罗斯腹地目标的西方技术专家代表了另一种层面的介入。

He said Moscow had no plans to attack countries supplying weapons to Ukraine and generally has no plans to attack any Western country "neither in 2029, nor in 2030, nor in 2050" but argued that Western technical specialists involved in strikes deep inside Russia represented a different level of involvement.

关于巴勒斯坦问题,他说只能通过建立一个完整的巴勒斯坦国家来解决。他还对美国对巴勒斯坦政策由以色列主导这一观点表示怀疑。

On the Palestinian issue, he said it can be resolved only through the creation of a full-fledged Palestinian state. He also doubted the idea that US policy toward Palestine is dictated by Israel.