在讨论基督教问题时，德克萨斯州民主党参议员候选人詹姆斯·塔拉里科谈到了他过去关于上帝不应被性别定义的言论，并对一名选民表示自己是在“挑衅”。>> TO? >> 我实际上去了海德公园。哦，奥斯汀。是的。很高兴和你在一起。很高兴见到你。所以我今天在这里和你基督徒对基督徒地谈论圣经中的信仰。我相信我们的分歧实际上在于我们对圣经的解释。
During a discussion on Christianity, Democratic Texas Senate candidate James Talarico addressed his past comments about God not being defined by gender, telling a voter he was "being provocative.” >> TO? >> I ACTUALLY WENT TO HYDE PARK. OH, AUSTIN. YEAH. GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. IT'S GOOD TO MEET YOU. SO I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU, CHRISTIAN TO CHRISTIAN TODAY ABOUT A FAITH IN THE BIBLE. AND I BELIEVE WHERE WE DIFFER IS REALLY OUR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE BIBLE.
嗯，对于很多基督教选民来说，你过去说过一些令人担忧的话，与信仰和社会问题有关。嗯，比如上帝是非二元的。关于真正有多少性别的问题，以及你用圣经来为堕胎辩护的理由。我认为这导致很多基督教选民开始质疑你信仰的真实性。我想问你一个非常直接的问题。嗯，你相信圣经是绝对的真理来源和上帝最终的权威话语吗？
UM, FOR A LOT OF CHRISTIAN VOTERS, YOU'VE SAID SOME CONCERNING THINGS IN THE PAST, KIND OF RELATED TO FAITH AND SOCIAL ISSUES. UM, THINGS SUCH AS GOD IS NON-BINARY. QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW MANY GENDERS THERE REALLY ARE AND YOUR JUSTIFICATIONS USING THE BIBLE FOR ABORTION. AND SO I THINK THAT'S LED A LOT OF CHRISTIAN VOTERS TO QUESTION THE AUTHENTICITY OF YOUR FAITH. AND I WANTED TO ASK YOU A VERY DIRECT QUESTION. UM, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE BIBLE IS THE ABSOLUTE SOURCE OF TRUTH AND GOD'S FINAL AUTHORITATIVE WORD?
即使我们的文化说相反的话？>> 是的。我认为记住这一点很重要：即使是早期教会，那些实际上认识拿撒勒人耶稣的门徒，嗯，我们常常把早期教会谈论为一个整体，但实际上它更像是——因为当时有很多分歧，有很多争论。而这正是我们应该感到自在的事情。嗯，作为基督徒，你和我都是基督身体的成员。你是我在基督里的姐妹。
EVEN WHEN OUR CULTURE SAYS OTHERWISE? >> YES. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT EVEN THE EARLY CHURCH, THE, THE, THE DISCIPLES WHO ACTUALLY KNEW JESUS OF NAZARETH, UM, THE EARLY CHURCH WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT AS A SINGULAR BODY, WHEN IN REALITY IT WAS MORE LIKE EARLY CHURCH IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF DISAGREEMENT, THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH. UM, WE AS CHRISTIANS, YOU AND I ARE BOTH MEMBERS OF THE BODY OF CHRIST. YOU ARE MY SISTER IN CHRIST.
如果你和我在对圣经的解释上有分歧，或者当然是在政治和政策议题上有分歧，这是应该被鼓励的，而不是被 discouraging。我们可以这样做，正如圣经所呼吁我们的那样。要以爱去行动。所以我实际上想要，呃，澄清你说的一些事情，因为我知道这些话已经被用于全州各地的攻击性广告中。
AND IT'S OKAY IF YOU AND I HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT OUR INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE OR CERTAINLY ABOUT POLITICAL AND POLICY TOPICS THAT SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED, NOT DISCOURAGED. AND WE CAN DO THAT, AS WE'RE CALLED TO DO IN SCRIPTURE. DO IT WITH LOVE. AND SO I ACTUALLY WANT TO, UH, CLARIFY A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN USED, UM, IN THESE ATTACK ADS ALL OVER THE STATE.
嗯，你知道的，第一条评论，呃，关于，呃，关于上帝不能用性别来定义，呃，当我说这句话的时候，我是在挑衅，我想承认这一点并坦诚相告。呃，但我认为我所说的实际上在神学上并不具争议性——即我们不能用人类的范畴来定义上帝。呃，不仅我说了这一点，已故的查理·柯克也说过，已故的本笃教皇也说过。而且，所以，是的，我可能是以一种令人讨厌的方式在这样做。
UM, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST COMMENT, UH, ABOUT, UM, ABOUT GOD NOT BEING DEFINED BY GENDER, UH, WHEN I SAID THAT I WAS BEING PROVOCATIVE AND I WANT TO ADMIT THAT AND COME CLEAN ABOUT THAT. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT I WAS SAYING IS ACTUALLY NOT CONTROVERSIAL THEOLOGICALLY, THE IDEA THAT WE CAN'T DEFINE GOD USING HUMAN CATEGORIES. UH, NOT ONLY DID I SAY THAT, BUT THE LATE CHARLIE KIRK SAID THAT THE LATE POPE BENEDICT SAID THAT. AND, AND SO, YES, I WAS DOING IT MAYBE IN AN ANNOYING WAY.
我想我可以承认这一点。>> 我们在谈论上帝时，必须小心使用现代文化术语。>> 当然。我认为这是非常公正的批评。呃，我也在某种程度上承认，呃，你知道的，我过去说过的话可能没有以正确的方式传达出来，或者让人感到不快。而这并不是我的本意。呃，而且，所以，你知道的，我的目标是——我是一名神学院学生，正如你所知，我的祖父是一名浸信会牧师，我正在追随他的脚步，希望有一天能成为一名牧师。
I CAN ADMIT THAT I THINK. >> WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL USING MODERN CULTURAL TERMS WHEN TALKING ABOUT GOD. >> SURE. I THINK THAT IS VERY FAIR CRITICISM. UM, AND I'VE KIND OF ADMITTED WHEN UM, YOU KNOW, HOW I'VE SAID THINGS IN THE PAST HAVE MAYBE NOT COME ACROSS IN THE RIGHT WAY OR HAVE UPSET PEOPLE. AND THAT'S NOT MY INTENTION. UH, AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL, I'M A SEMINARY STUDENT, AS YOU KNOW, MY GRANDDAD WAS A BAPTIST PREACHER AND I'M FOLLOWING IN HIS FOOTSTEPS, HOPEFULLY GOING TO BECOME A MINISTER ONE DAY.
而牧师们常常会在布道中说一些令人震惊的话来吸引注意力。呃，而且，而且，这就是我仍在学习如何以负责任的方式去做的事情。因此，我将始终接受来自 fellow 基督徒的反馈，以及来自我的选民的反馈，关于如何去做。
AND PREACHERS OFTEN WILL SAY SOMETHING SHOCKING IN A SERMON TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. UM, AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M STILL LEARNING HOW TO DO IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY. AND SO I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TAKE FEEDBACK FROM MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS, FROM MY CONSTITUENTS ON, ON HOW TO DO