
唐纳德·特朗普周四宣布,他正在取消皮特·赫格塞斯最近宣布的计划,即直播一场军事处决——因为“许多非常好且出于好意的人宁愿不看他死”。但赫格塞斯这一如今被叫停的想法也有一些支持者:长期支持他职业生涯的右翼宗教人物。
Donald Trump announced on Thursday he was cancelling Pete Hegseth’s recently announced plans to livestream a military execution – because “many very good and well-meaning people would rather not watch him die”. But there were some fans of Hegseth’s now-scotched idea: the rightwing religious figures who have long backed his career.
赫格塞斯上周宣布,美国公众将能够看到尼达尔·哈桑的处决,该处决定于12月3日在得克萨斯州福特胡德进行。哈桑是一名前陆军少校和精神科医生,他在2009年于福特胡德杀害了13人,造成32人受伤。军事法庭于2013年8月判处他死刑。
Hegseth announced last week that the US public would be able to see the execution of Nidal Hasan, which is set for 3 December at Fort Hood, Texas. Hasan, a former army major and psychiatrist, killed 13 people and wounded 32 at Fort Hood in 2009. A military court sentenced him to death in August 2013.
“我们会确保人们能够观看它,它将是公开的,”赫格塞斯说。“这是一起穿着军装的激进伊斯兰主义袭击,发生在军队内部,因此他将面临士兵的枪决——正如应有的那样。”赫格塞斯的神权教会“改革派福音派交通”(CREC)事实上的领袖、道格拉斯·威尔逊欢迎这一宣布。
“We’ll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it’s public,” Hegseth said. “It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks, and so he’s going to get a firing squad of soldiers – as it should be.”The de facto leader of Hegseth’s theocratic Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CREC), Douglas Wilson, welcomed the announcement.
威尔逊是爱达荷州的一位牧师,也是CREC的联合创始人,他数十年来一直推动死刑,认为这是《圣经》授权的。上周五,他对《宗教新闻》表示,他更倾向于“公开处决,而不是在某个监狱深处、半夜进行的处决”,并补充说:“《圣经》中的处决都是公开的。”威尔逊告诉该媒体,公开处决可能“变成马戏团”。
Wilson, the Idaho pastor who co-founded CREC, has promoted capital punishment as biblically authorized for decades. Last Friday he told Religion News that he prefers “public executions to those conducted in the recesses of a prison somewhere in the middle of the night”, adding that “executions in the scriptures were public”. Wilson told the outlet that public executions can “turn into a circus”.
威尔逊对《卫报》表示:“我支持处决哈桑,并且更倾向于公开处决而非私下处决。”他补充道:“我更倾向于较古老的形式,比如枪决,而不是试图‘医学化’它,就像田纳西州最近一次注射处决失误那样。”
Wilson told the Guardian that “I support the execution of Hasan, and prefer public executions to private”, adding: “I prefer the older forms, like a firing squad, as opposed to attempts to ‘medicalize’ it, as with the recent botched execution by injection in Tennessee.”
他确实 stipulate(注:原文如此,可能为“强调”或“规定”):“五角大楼有责任通过某种手段防止一些人的鬼魅行为”,但承认:“直播的话,这将具有挑战性。”威尔逊写道,他就此问题未曾与赫格塞斯或其部门的任何人交谈。
He did stipulate that “the Pentagon has the responsibility to head off ghoulish behavior by some means”, but admitted: “That will be challenging with a live stream.”Wilson wrote that he had not spoken to Hegseth nor anyone in his department about the issue.
威尔逊及其宗教盟友与其他一些宗教领袖意见相左,其中包括教皇利奥和美国军方总主教蒂莫西·布罗格利奥,他们都曾谴责赫格塞思的计划。
Wilson and his religious allies are at odds with some other religious leaders, including Pope Leo and the archbishop to the US military, Timothy Broglio, both of whom have condemned Hegseth’s plans.

但CREC的牧师们多年来一直主张对许多被视为道德违规的行为实行死刑,其中包括通奸、堕胎和同性恋,而赫格塞思曾就职的教会的一位播客多次呼吁将处决公开进行。有几人对穆斯林和伊斯兰教表达了敌意,其中一人称安拉为“恶魔之神”。
But CREC pastors, whose church in Washington DC Hegseth attends, have for years advocated the death penalty for many perceived moral infractions including adultery, abortion and homosexuality, and a podcaster from Hegseth’s former church has repeatedly called for executions to be public. Several have expressed hostility to Muslims and Islam, with one calling Allah a “demon God”.
“早期基督教重建主义者之间曾达成共识,认为某些罪行的死刑是《旧约》的一部分,并且仍然适用,处决应当公开进行,”北佛罗里达大学哲学与宗教教授朱莉·英格索尔说道,她是《建造神的国度》一书的作者,该书研究了基督教重建主义运动,威尔逊多次表示自己认同这一运动。
“There was a consensus among the early Christian reconstructionists that the death penalty for certain crimes was part of the Old Testament that is still applicable, and that executions should be public,” said Julie Ingersoll, a professor of philosophy and religion at the University of North Florida, and the author of Building God’s Kingdom, a study of Christian reconstructionism, a movement with which Wilson has repeatedly identified.
英格索尔补充道:“我认为赫格塞思正是从这里得到这种观点的,而且威尔逊并没有说出任何新东西。”《卫报》联系了白宫和五角大楼以获取评论。
Ingersoll added: “I do think this is where Hegseth is getting this and, no, Wilson isn’t saying anything new.”The Guardian contacted the White House and the Pentagon for comment.
一位不愿透露姓名的国防部发言人在电子邮件回复中写道:“部长是正确的。这将进行直播。详情将随后公布。”“圣经共和国”赫格塞思属于CREC,其资深牧师们向他所在的华盛顿教会“基督教会DC”布道,正如《卫报》在四月份所报道的那样。
An unidentified Department of Defense spokesperson wrote in an email response: “The secretary is correct. It will be livestreamed. Details will follow.”A ‘biblical republic’Hegseth belongs to the CREC, and its senior pastors preach to his Washington congregation, Christ Kirk DC, as the Guardian reported in April.
在2023年3月2日在其博客上的一篇题为《提案》的帖子中,威尔逊写道:“死刑应适用于暴力罪犯——杀人犯(出埃及记21:12)、强奸犯和绑架犯(出埃及记21:16)、堕胎者(出埃及记21:22)等。”
In a 2 March post on his blog, under the heading “A Proposal”, Wilson wrote: “The death penalty should be applied to violent criminals – murderers (Ex. 21:12), rapists and kidnappers (Ex. 21:16), abortionists (Ex. 21:22), and so on.”
在其2023年出版的《基督教的基本要素》一书中,威尔逊写道,当摩西“命令处死一个在安息日捡拾木柴的人时,那也是神圣、公义和善良的”。他在同一本书中反对让现代政府处死亵渎者:“当你赋予国家惩罚亵渎者的权力时,你实际上是在赋予国家无惩罚地亵渎的权力。”
In his 2023 book Mere Christendom, Wilson wrote that when Moses “commanded a man to be executed for picking up sticks on the sabbath, that too was holy, righteous, and good”. He argued in the same book against letting modern governments execute blasphemers: “When you give the state power to punish a blasphemer, you are giving the state the power to blaspheme with impunity.”
威尔逊在枪击事件发生后的几周内曾写过关于哈桑的内容。在2010年1月17日的一篇帖子中,他引用了一位军事评论员的观点,认为哈桑称《古兰经》高于宪法的言论构成叛国。
Wilson wrote about Hasan in the weeks after the shooting. In a 17 January 2010 post, he took up a military commentator’s view that Hasan’s statement that the Qur’an outranked the constitution was treason.
该帖子肯定了宗教命令高于国家法律,但断言哈桑的宗教是错误的。“当然,哈桑是错误的,但这是一个事实问题,而不是原则问题,”威尔逊写道。“上帝的话语高于麦迪逊等人,如果《古兰经》是上帝的话语,那么宪法就应该坐下来听一分钟。”
The post affirmed that religious commands supersede the law of the state, but asserted that Hasan’s religion was mistaken. “Now of course, Hasan was mistaken, but this was a question of fact, not of principle,” Wilson wrote. “The word of God outranks Madison, et al, and if the Qur’an were the word of God, then the constitution should just sit down and listen for a minute.”
CREC的支持者约书亚·海姆斯主持《宗教改革红药丸》播客,赫格塞思曾在此节目中出现,并且曾是赫格塞思在田纳西州前教会的牧师实习生。《卫报》在2025年8月报道称,海姆斯曾提出“由公开枪决处死,且指控者和目击者参与执行枪决”的方案。
CREC support Joshua Haymes hosts the Reformation Red Pill podcast, on which Hegseth has appeared, and was a pastoral intern at Hegseth’s former church in Tennessee. The Guardian reported in August 2025 that Haymes had proposed “death by a public firing squad wherein the accuser and witnesses partake in the firing”.
此后他再次谈及此事。在3月28日的一期节目中,海姆斯谈到色情制片人时说:“把他们吊在街上。我是认真的。我们需要恢复公开处决。”
He has returned to the subject since. In an episode dated 28 March, Haymes said of pornography producers: “Hang them in the streets. And I mean that. We need to bring back public executions.”
在上周上传的一期节目中,他说:“如果我们只是恢复公开处决”,那么在他所说的“大城市高密度黑人地区”的杀人数量将“降到零”。
In an episode uploaded last week, he said that “if we would just reinstitute public executions”, the number of killings in what he called high-density Black areas of major cities would “fall to the floor”.
在回应置评请求的电子邮件中,海姆斯重申了他所有这些立场,表示他支持处决哈桑,并且“我确实相信儿童色情制造者(即生产和传播儿童色情制品的人)应该被处死”,但他表示对于其他色情制造者,“他不会走到死刑那一步”。
In an email response to a request for comment, Haymes reaffirmed all of these positions, saying that he supported the execution of Hasan, that “I do believe that child pornographers (those who produce and distribute child pornography) should be executed”, but that he “would stop short of capital punishment” for other pornographers.
被问及他对“黑人地区”犯罪的言论时,他写道:“目前,美国超过50%的谋杀案是由约占人口6%的人群实施的。这是一个令人震惊的毁灭性统计数据。而且大多数暴力犯罪是由一小部分不断再犯的黑人美国人实施的。”反诽谤联盟在其仇恨符号数据库中列出了类似主张,对应的数字代码为“13/52”和“13/90”,该联盟称其为“白人至上主义者针对非裔美国人的种族主义宣传主张的速记”,用以将他们描述为天生野蛮和犯罪。
Asked about his comments on crime in “Black areas”, he wrote: “Right now, over 50% of homicides in America are committed by around 6% of the population. That is an astoundingly devastating statistic. And most of the violent crime is being done by a small subset of black Americans who are continually reoffending.”The Anti-Defamation League lists a similar claim in its hate symbols database, under the numeric codes “13/52” and “13/90”, which it calls “a shorthand reference to racist propaganda claims by white supremacists against African Americans to depict them as savage and criminal in nature”.
根据南方贫困法律中心的说法,白人至上主义者“操纵犯罪统计数据,以声称非白人少数群体,尤其是非裔美国人,犯罪倾向要高得多”,并将美国文艺复兴的杰拉德·泰勒列为“白人民族主义意识形态者”之一,称他们“从这些数据中获得了相当大的收益”。
According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, white supremacists “manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African Americans, are far more crime-prone”, naming Jared Taylor of American Renaissance among the “white nationalist ideologues” who had “made considerable hay” from such figures.
《卫报》于2025年8月报道,海姆斯曾在一篇帖子中支持泰勒的观点,而泰勒长期否认自己是白人至上主义者,更倾向于将自己描述为“种族现实主义者”或“白人倡导者”。
The Guardian reported in August 2025 that Haymes had endorsed Taylor’s views in a post on Taylor has long denied that he is a white supremacist, preferring to describe himself as a “race realist” or “white advocate”.
在接受《卫报》此前报道的电子邮件评论中,海姆斯说:“我不是白人民族主义者或白人至上主义者。我的表亲是黑人,我的妹夫是中国人,我很高兴他们在这里。我不知道那位白人民族主义者是谁。”黑格塞斯的宣布在更广泛的基督教民族主义社区引起了轩然大波。上周五,作为“巧克力·诺克斯”主持CrossPolitic播客的大卫·尚农,转发了另一位用户要求“所有支持对死刑犯罪进行公开处刑的圣经经文”的帖子。该播客曾于2025年9月被《卫报》报道。
In an emailed comment for prior Guardian reporting on his views, Haymes said: “I am not a white nationalist or white supremacist. My cousin is black, and my brother-in-law is Chinese, and I’m glad they’re here. I have no idea who that white nationalist is.”Hegseth’s announcement has stirred the wider Christian nationalist community. Last Friday, David Shannon, who as “Chocolate Knox” co-hosts CrossPolitic, a podcast the Guardian reported on in September 2025, reposted another user’s request for “all the Bible verses supporting public executions for capital crimes”.

本·佐恩斯告诉《卫报》,他是活石归正教会的牧师,该教会由基督教会莫斯科植堂,或称创立。
Ben Zornes told the Guardian that he is a pastor at Living Stones Reformed church, a church planted, or founded, by Christ Church Moscow.
他于2018年10月18日写道:“悖逆的儿子和不贞洁的女儿对立约忠诚构成危险,因此应当为整个会众的纯洁而被处决。”他将废除死刑的努力称为“我们以为自己比上帝更懂事的一个例子”。
He wrote on 18 October 2018: “Rebellious sons, and unchaste daughters were a danger to covenantal faithfulness and thus were to be executed for the sake of the purity of the whole congregation.”He called efforts to abolish the death penalty “an example of us thinking we know better than God does”.
当被问及对计划中以行刑队方式处决哈桑一事的看法时,佐恩斯写道:“我确实支持执行死刑。不过我担心这会变成一场公开的闹剧——我认为公开处决只适合那些心智成熟、行事稳重的社会,而我们的社会还像个蹒跚学步的孩童。”
Asked about the planned firing-squad execution of Hasan, Zornes wrote: “I do support the execution. I have concerns about making it a public spectacle, as I think public executions are for sober and mature societies, and ours is like a toddler.”
他补充道:“公开处决本应庄严肃穆,若进行直播则会削弱这一仪式的严肃性;也正因如此,我反对对教堂礼拜活动进行直播。”
He added: “A public execution should be solemn, and livestreaming it would compromise the gravity of the event, which is also why I am opposed to livestreaming church services.”
不过,当被问及是否认同道格拉斯·威尔逊主张公开处决优于私下处决的观点时,佐恩斯回答:“我同意。”
But asked if he agreed with Douglas Wilson’s preference for public executions over private ones, Zornes replied: “I do.”
赫格斯在宣布公开处决哈桑时称其为“极端伊斯兰分子”;CREC的成员们也经常在文章中抨击伊斯兰教。爱达荷州莫斯科市的CREC牧师托比·萨姆普特同样是《CrossPolitic》节目的联合主持人,他在2025年3月13日写道:“我们完全可以先从禁止公开崇拜假神入手,依法取缔伊斯兰教、印度教等宗教。”在2025年6月26日播出的《CrossPolitic》节目《从“9·11”事件到纽约市出现穆斯林市长?
Hegseth described Hasan as a “radical Islamist” when he announced the public execution, and CREC figures have frequently targeted the Islamic faith in their writings. Toby Sumpter, a CREC pastor in Moscow, Idaho, another co-host of CrossPolitic, wrote on 13 March 2025: “We can certainly begin by prohibiting public worship of false gods, legally suppressing Islam, Hinduism, etc.” On a 26 June 2025 episode of CrossPolitic titled “From 9/11 To a Muslim Mayor in NYC? The Rise of Islam in America”, Sumpter said Allah “is a real demon God”.
伊斯兰教在美国的崛起》中,萨姆普特称安拉“是一个真正的恶魔之神”;同年11月21日的节目中他又称基督徒应当“请求政府下令禁止修建清真寺”。
On a 21 November 2025 episode he said Christians should “ask civil magistrates to outlaw mosques”.
海姆斯将2025年8月7日那期节目的标题定为《基督徒必须支持禁止伊斯兰教并驱逐穆斯林》。在4月17日与一名穆斯林男子的辩论中,他声称:“不许修建清真寺,不许进行祷告召唤,任何类似行为都不允许。”曾任赫格斯所在田纳西州教会牧师的华盛顿特区基督教会牧师布鲁克斯·波特伊格则在8月30日的布道中称:“印度教与伊斯兰教的‘偶像’正趁机填补社会上的信仰空白。”
Haymes gave a 7 August episode the title “Christians MUST Support Banning Islam & Deporting Muslims”. In a 17 April debate with a Muslim man, he said: “No mosques, no calls to prayer, nothing like that.”Brooks Potteiger, the pastor of Christ Kirk DC and previously of Hegseth’s Tennessee church, said in a 30 August sermon that “the idols of Hinduism and Islam have rushed in to fill the void”.
萨姆普特、香农与波特伊格均未回应外界的置评请求。“把死亡变成一场闹剧”专家指出,历史上之所以禁止公开处决,原因之一便是这会给死刑犯提供机会来传达他们想要传递的任何信息。
Sumpter, Shannon and Potteiger did not respond to requests for comment. ‘Turn death into a spectacle’Experts say that, historically, executions were banned at least in part because they gave a platform for the executed to deliver any message they wanted.
迈克尔·特罗蒂是伊萨卡学院历史学教授,也是《终结公开处刑》一书的作者,该书讲述了美国南部公开处刑的历史。
Michael Trotti is a professor of history at Ithaca College and the author of The End of Public Execution, a history of public executions in the American south.
他在一封电子邮件中表示,在北方,由于“日益增长的中产阶级对死亡景象的不适感”,处刑在19世纪中叶大多被移至监狱围墙内,这种景象“会使观看者变得粗暴”,并且“可能反而吸引罪犯,而不是起到遏制犯罪的作用”。
In an email, he said that in the north, executions were mostly moved inside prison walls from the mid-19th century due to “growing middle-class discomfort with the spectacles of death”, which “coarsened those who watched them” and “might event attract criminals rather that being something that would curb crime”.

然而,在南方,公开处刑一直流行到世纪末。最终,当局“相信这些活动实际上给予了黑死囚过多的显著公共权威,当他们面对大量混血人群被问及是否有临终遗言时,以及他们的牧师在那里提供最后的宗教指导和祈祷/赞美诗时也是如此”。
In the south, however, they remained popular until the end of the century. Eventually authorities “became convinced that these events were actually giving too much prominent, public authority to black condemned when they were asked if they had final words in front of massive mixed-race crowds, and to their pastors who were there to give final religious guidance and prayers/hymns”.
“公开处刑最终在某种程度上超出了任何试图实施它的当局的控制,因为一旦图像传播出去,它们就可以服务于许多目的。它们可以服务于国家想要的保守目的,但也可以服务于受害者可能想要的激进目的,比如在大量观众面前登台。”周六,教皇利奥在X上写道,“共同利益可以得到保障,正义的要求也可以得到满足,而无需诉诸死刑”。
“Public execution ended up being somewhat out of the control of any authority trying to enact it, for once the images are out there, they can serve many purposes. They can serve conservative purposes the state wants, but also radical purposes like the victims might want like being on a stage before a massive audience.”On Saturday, Pope Leo wrote on X that “the common good can be safeguarded and the requirements of justice can be met without recourse to capital punishment”.
利奥没有提及哈桑,但这些言论被广泛解读为对赫格塞斯宣布的回应。前一天晚上,梵蒂冈国务卿皮特罗·帕罗林枢机主教就计划中的直播表示,“将死亡变成一场景观当然是不可接受的”。
Leo did not mention Hasan, but the remarks were widely interpreted as being a response to Hegseth’s announcement. The previous evening the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Pietro Parolin, had said of the planned broadcast that it was “certainly unacceptable to turn death into a spectacle”.
据报道,美国天主教主教会议主席保罗·科克利大主教称该计划是“一种野蛮地宣扬死亡文化的行为”。全国福音派协会主席沃尔特·金表示,直播处刑“有可能将国家最庄严的责任之一变成一场公开景观”。
Archbishop Paul Coakley, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, reportedly called the plan “a barbaric promotion of a culture of death”. Walter Kim, the president of the National Association of Evangelicals, said a livestreamed execution “risks turning one of the state’s most solemn responsibilities into a public spectacle”.