前特朗普政府白宫律师泰·科布指出，仅仅上任五天后白宫新闻秘书凯蒂·扎卡里亚便被突然免职，这明显存在双重标准。科布对艾琳·伯内特表示，扎卡里亚从一开始就被设定为注定失败的人选，并补充道：“她并非遭到媒体的不公平对待，而是遭到了总统的不公平对待。”
Ty Cobb, former Trump White House lawyer, points to a double standard in the sudden ouster of White House Press Secretary Katie Zachariah after just five days on the job. Cobb tells Erin Burnett that Zachariah was set up to fail, adding, "She hasn't been treated unfairly by the media, she's been treated unfairly by the president." INDICATE WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
朱莉娅，非常感谢你。正如我今晚在西棕榈滩所说，现在让我们请出泰·科布。这位前特朗普政府白宫律师，既是律师也是法务专家。那么，让我直奔主题吧：总统解雇了上任仅五天的白宫新闻秘书凯蒂·扎卡里亚。是他亲自挑选了她，对吧？不过看起来苏西·怀尔斯在前一晚就得知了此事，其他人也很快都知道了。这件事事先并未征求过其他人的意见，责任完全在总统本人。
JULIA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS I SAID IN WEST PALM BEACH TONIGHT, LET'S GO TO TY COBB OUT FRONT. NOW, THE FORMER TRUMP WHITE HOUSE LAWYER, A LAWYER, AN ATTORNEY, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE. TY. SO, UM, LET ME LET ME JUST GET TO THE CORE HERE. HE FIRES KATIE ZACHARIA AS WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY. IT'S FIVE DAYS. HE PICKED HER. HE PICKED HER. RIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE HE SUSIE WILES FOUND OUT THE NIGHT BEFORE. EVERYBODY ELSE DID. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN TAKING OTHER PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURE ON.
当然，扎卡里亚符合特朗普所要求的核心条件——曾在电视上对总统大加吹捧与赞扬。她完全符合那种“绝对忠诚、盲目崇拜”的标准，而这正是特朗普挑选幕僚的必要条件。此外，她还是金发女性，有点像卡罗琳以及娜塔莉·哈普那种类型。不过特朗普原本以为她也是律师，对此还略感意外。
HE OWNS IT >> HE OWNS IT. AND, YOU KNOW, AS YOU POINT OUT, SHE MET THE SHE MET THE KEY QUALIFICATION, OF COURSE, HAVING FILLED HER. >> PIECES ON TV WITH ADULATION AND PRAISE FOR THE PRESIDENT. SHE MET THE OBSESSIVELY LOYAL UM IDOLATER STANDARD, WHICH IS THE ESSENTIAL STANDARD FOR TRUMP HIRES. AND OF COURSE, SHE'S BLOND, SORT OF, AND LIKE CREEPY CAROLINE AND, YOU KNOW, NATALIE HARP. UH, AND BUT TRUMP ALSO THOUGHT SHE WAS A LAWYER AND HE WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED.
需要强调的是，当特朗普称扎卡里亚遭到不公平对待时，其实她并非遭到媒体的不公平对待，真正不公平对待她的是总统本人。人事审查机制的存在不仅是为了保护总统，也是为了保护候选人本身；我们绝不会希望雇佣一个不合格的人选，让其注定失败。而这次扎卡里亚惨遭失败，很大程度上正是因为缺乏必要的人事审查程序。因此我认为这绝非偶然。眼下我们正处权力交接时期，凯蒂与苏西·怀尔斯的名字被频繁提及也就不足为奇了。
BUT WHEN TRUMP SAYS SHE'S BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY, SHE HASN'T BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY THE BY THE MEDIA. SHE'S BEEN TREATED UNFAIRLY BY THE PRESIDENT. THE VETTING PROCESS IS THERE TO PROTECT NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT, BUT ALSO THE CANDIDATE. YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT QUALIFIED AND IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HIRING THEM TO FAIL. AND SHE FAILED MISERABLY IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF THE ABSENCE OF A VETTING PROCESS. SO I THINK IT'S ALSO NOT A COINCIDENCE. UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KATIE AND SUSIE WILES, UH, IN THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONAL TONE.
嗯，你知道的，这位总统已经解雇了克里斯蒂·诺姆（Kristi Noem）担任的国土安全部部长，帕姆·邦迪（Pam Bondi）担任的司法部长，图尔西·加巴德（Tulsi Gabbard）担任的国防部长，还有洛丽·查韦斯-德雷默（Lori Chavez-Deremer）担任的劳工部部长。吉尔福伊尔（Guilfoyle）现在也走了，走了，走了。凯蒂（Katie）和埃莉斯·斯特凡尼克（Elise Stefanik）原本被承诺会获得联合国职位，但特朗普却把她开除了，彻底毁掉了她的政治生涯，还把那个职位给了瓦尔茨（Walz）。
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO HAS GOTTEN RID OF, YOU KNOW, KRISTI NOEM AT DHS, PAM BONDI AT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, TULSI GABBARD AT D, AND LORI CHAVEZ-DEREMER AT, UH, AT THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR. GUILFOYLE UH, IS GONE NOW AND NOW AND NOW. KATIE AND, AND ELISE STEFANIK WAS PROMISED THE U.N. POSITION, AND TRUMP CANNED HER AND RUINED HER POLITICAL CAREER FOREVER AND GAVE IT TO WALZ.
所以，你知道的，这与赫格塞斯（Hegseth）形成了鲜明对比——赫格塞斯竟然让一位《大西洋》杂志的记者参加了一次机密电话会议。帕特尔（Patel）则到处飞来飞去，你知道的，喝得酩酊大醉，还滥用他的飞机和工作人员来为他的女友谋利。还有卢特尼克（Lutnick），他谎称自己和爱泼斯坦（Epstein）没有关联。
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS CONTRASTED WITH, OF COURSE, HEGSETH, WHO PUTS AN ATLANTIC REPORTER ON A ON A CLASSIFIED TELEPHONE CONFERENCE. PATEL, WHO FLIES AROUND THE WORLD, YOU KNOW, DRUNK EVERYWHERE AND AND MISUSES HIS AIRPLANE AND PERSONNEL FOR THE BENEFIT OF HIS GIRLFRIEND AND, AND LUTNICK, WHO LIES ABOUT HIS EPSTEIN TIES.
他声称自己已经好多年没和那个人说过话了。结果却发现，他实际上去过那座岛，还带上了他的整个家人——这些男人却没有任何后果，只有女人们受到了惩罚。所以我觉得这很可悲。如果我是苏西·怀尔斯（Susie Wiles），我肯定会开始观察局势的走向。
I MEAN, HE SAID HE HADN'T HADN'T TALKED TO THE GUY IN YEARS. AND IT TURNS OUT HE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE ISLAND, TOOK HIS WHOLE FAMILY, NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THE MEN, ONLY FOR THE WOMEN. SO I THINK THAT'S SAD. AND I THINK IF I'M SUSIE WILES, I'M READING THE TEA LEAVES.
所以，苏西·怀尔斯，特朗普否认正在考虑更换她担任白宫幕僚长的职位。不过，《华盛顿邮报》报道称，特朗普的几位盟友已经开始争取这个职位。你知道的，如果她在中期选举后辞职，那显然就是最大的“如果”。但他们确实在争取。其中包括《华盛顿邮报》提到的白宫副幕僚长斯蒂芬·米勒（Stephen Miller）、住房事务高级官员比尔·普尔特（Bill Pulte）——当然，正是他带头对那些被视作特朗普敌人的对象发起了抵押贷款欺诈案的调查——以及环保署署长李·泽尔丁（Lee Zeldin）。你觉得接下来会发生什么？泰（Ty）？
SO SUSIE WILES TRUMP'S DENYING THAT HE'S CONSIDERING REPLACING HER AS AS CHIEF OF STAFF. THE WASHINGTON POST IS REPORTING THAT SEVERAL TRUMP ALLIES HAVE BEGUN ANGLING FOR THE POSITION ANYWAY. YOU KNOW, IF SHE STEPS DOWN AFTER THE MIDTERMS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE BIG IF. BUT THEY'RE ANGLING. AND THIS INCLUDES WASHINGTON POST IS GOING THROUGH DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF STEPHEN MILLER, TOP HOUSING OFFICIAL BILL PULTE, WHO, OF COURSE, WAS THE ONE WHO SPEARHEADED GOING AFTER TRUMP'S PERCEIVED ENEMIES WITH THOSE MORTGAGE FRAUD CASES. AND THE EPA ADMINISTRATOR, LEE ZELDIN. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE? TY?
很难说。我认为，总统任用了苏西·怀尔斯这样不称职的人担任新闻秘书，这一失误实在糟糕至极。不过这或许也为总统争取到了一些缓冲时间——毕竟他肯定不愿立刻撤换另一位在政府中颇具影响力的女性。嗯，虽然他暂时拖延了事态发展，但我们知道他其实一直在四处打听、询问相关人选。至于那些有意竞争该职位的人选，其实斯蒂芬·米勒从苏西·怀尔斯的任职中获益良多，因为斯蒂芬·米勒才是事实上的白宫幕僚长，他掌控着白宫的各项政策走向。这样一来，他也能获得一定的保护伞。倘若由他亲自出面担任此职，恐怕会招致更多非议。至于普尔特嘛……他的智商确实勉强达到了两位数，这也算是能胜任此职的“门槛”了——毕竟这届政府里有不少人也都符合这个标准。不过我们还是更希望看到能力更强的人选。正如您所说，其实还有其他人选或许能胜任这份工作。今天我看到有消息称杰伊·克莱顿也被列入了考虑范围。杰伊·克莱顿可是真正的法律专业人士，他既有能力，也值得信赖。
IT'S HARD TO SAY. I DO THINK THAT THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, UNFORCED ERROR AND DISASTROUS, UH, PRESS PRESS SECRETARY HIRE BY THE PRESIDENT, PROBABLY BY SUSIE WILES A LITTLE BIT OF COVER BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO BE EAGER TO JETTISON ANOTHER WOMAN PROMINENT IN HIS ADMINISTRATION IMMEDIATELY. UH, SO HE MAY HAVE BOUGHT SOME TIME, BUT WE KNOW HE WAS CALLING AROUND AND ASKING PEOPLE ABOUT IT. AND, AND IN TERMS OF THOSE THAT ARE CIRCLING, YOU KNOW, STEPHEN MILLER ACTUALLY BENEFITS FROM HAVING SUSIE WILES IN THE ROLE BECAUSE STEPHEN MILLER IS THE DE FACTO CHIEF OF STAFF. HE DICTATES THE POLICIES OF THE WHITE HOUSE. UM, YOU KNOW, HE GETS A HE GETS A LITTLE BIT OF COVER THERE. IF HE WAS OUT FRONT AND HAD THE TITLE, YOU KNOW, HE MIGHT TAKE MORE FLAK EVEN. UM, AND IN TERMS OF PULTE, I MEAN. PULTE, UM, YOU KNOW, HE DOES HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, TWO DIGIT IQ THAT, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIES MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE'D RATHER SEE SOMEBODY MORE COMPETENT. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE, AS YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS COULD DO A GOOD JOB. I SAW ONE PLACE JAY CLAYTON WAS FLOATED TODAY. JAY CLAYTON, OF COURSE, IS SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY IS A REAL LAWYER. UM, AND, UH, WOULD BE A, WOULD BE CAPABLE AND SOMEBODY THAT,