谷歌的人工智能模型可能正在帮助构建它们的继任者，但首席执行官桑达尔·皮查伊表示，完全实现自我完善的人工智能还需要一段时间。本周在做客《大科技播客》（Big Technology Podcast）节目时，皮查伊表示，谷歌的研究人员一直在利用人工智能智能体来协助构建模型，但他同时提醒说，目前仍处于早期阶段。
Google's AI models may be helping to build their successors, but CEO Sundar Pichai says the moment of fully self-improving AI is still a while away. Speaking on an episode of the "Big Technology Podcast" this week, Pichai said that Google researchers were using AI agents to assist them when building models, but caveated that it was still early days.
“我们距离RSI的终极状态还相当遥远，”皮查伊说，他指的是递归自我改进。“正确的描述方式是，在模型开发的各个方面，你既有RSI循环，也有人工智能研究人员。我想说的是，你几乎拥有以某种自动化方式协同工作的智能体来帮助人工智能研究人员构建这些模型。”皮查伊补充说，他预计这一连续体将在明年继续取得进展。
"We are pretty far from the end state of RSI," said Pichai, referring to recursive self-improvement. "The right way to describe it is, you have RSI loops along with AI researchers in various aspects of model development. I would say you almost have agents helping AI researchers, in some automated way, work together to build these models." Pichai added that he expected that continuum to keep making progress into next year.
本月早些时候，谷歌联合创始人谢尔盖·布林表示，公司的Flash系列模型以及Gemini 4展示了人工智能如何帮助自我构建，并且谷歌“开始踏上那个RSI的跑步机”。他说：“现在我们的研究人员和模型携手合作，来制作下一版本的模型。”《商业内幕》此前报道称，布林越来越深地参与到谷歌的Gemini项目中，并利用其作为联合创始人的权力，将资源转移到他认为最有效的项目中。这其中包括推动更多地关注RSI。
Earlier this month, Google cofounder Sergey Brin said the company's Flash series of models, as well as Gemini 4, were demonstrating how AI was helping to build itself, and that Google was "starting to get onto that RSI treadmill." "And now our researchers and the model work hand in hand to make the next version of the model," he said. Brin has been increasingly involved in Google's Gemini efforts and has leveraged his power as cofounder to shift resources to projects he deems most effective, Business Insider previously reported. This has included pushing for more focus on RSI.
咨询公司Gladstone AI本月早些时候发布的一份报告称，从Anthropic和DeepMind等公司采访的大多数研究人员都认为，RSI将在未来3到12个月内开始，如果没有政府干预，可能会更快。
A report from the firm Gladstone AI, published earlier this month, said that most researchers interviewed from companies including Anthropic and DeepMind believed RSI will start within the next three to 12 months, and possibly sooner without government intervention.
在《大科技播客》的另一个环节中，皮查伊被问及内部编写代码时使用了多少人工智能。该公司在4月份表示，谷歌内部75%的新代码是由人工智能生成的。
In another moment on the "Big Technology Podcast," Pichai was asked about how much AI was being used to code internally. The company said in April that 75% of new code inside Google was generated by AI.
皮查伊说：“在我们今天的世界里，这个数字可以说是毫无意义的，因为我们现在接触到的每一部分代码都深受人工智能的影响。”他表示，借助Gemini 4 Argon，人们将能够解决更棘手的问题。他还表示，谷歌的代码回滚次数减少了三分之一，代码回滚是指由于漏洞或系统问题而将软件恢复到先前版本的情况。
"That number in our world today is like meaningless in the sense that every part of code we now touch is influenced by AI deeply," Pichai said. With Gemini 4 Argon, he said, people were going to tackle harder problems. He also said Google was seeing a one-third decrease in code rollbacks, where software is reverted to a previous version because of a bug or system issue.
谈到人工智能工具时，他说：“因此我认为人们编写代码更有效率，并且用它编写了更好的代码。”
"And so I think people are writing code more productively, and better code with it," he said of AI tools.
本周在做客《消息来源》（Sources）播客时，皮查伊还透露，他利用人工智能来追踪谷歌的模型开发和内部讨论。
Pichai also uses AI to track Google's model development and internal discussions, he told the "Sources" podcast this week.