
在整个公投竞选期间,CBC新闻采用第一人称写作、社区焦点小组和小型互动快闪活动,以了解阿尔伯塔省民计划以何种方式投票以及背后的原因。我们遇到了辩论双方的许多民众。
Throughout the referendum campaign, CBC News used First Person writing, community focus groups and small engagement pop-ups to understand why Albertans were planning to vote the way they were. We met many people on both sides of the debate.
现在结果已出炉,四分之三的阿尔伯塔省民投票决定留在加拿大,我们联系了一些支持另一方的社区成员,了解他们的感受以及他们希望接下来发生什么。情绪万千——有希望、失望、也有满足。
Now that the results have come in, with three-quarters of Albertans voting to stay in Canada, we reached out to some of the community members who supported the other side to see how they feel and what they would like to see happen next. There were many emotions — hope, disappointment, contentment.
“这不再是一个隐秘的谈话” 周二清晨,维基·贝福德在完成监票工作后看到了结果。她一直怀揣希望,在因尼斯费尔的投票站看着选项二的得票率接近50%。因尼斯费尔是一个拥有近9000人口的小镇,位于卡尔加里以北一小时车程处。贝福德表示,全省25%的得票率令人失望,但并不令人意外。
‘This isn’t a hidden conversation anymore’ Vicky Bayford saw the results when she finished scrutineering early Tuesday morning. She had been hopeful, watching numbers near 50 per cent for Option 2 from her polling station in Innisfail, a town of nearly 9,000 people an hour’s drive north of Calgary. Bayford said the provincewide tally of 25 per cent was disappointing, but not surprising.
“我一直知道这将是一场艰难的战斗。”贝福德从事石油天然气行业,自2020年以来深度参与分离主义运动。她认为选项二失利是因为许多保守派决定给总理丹妮尔·史密斯一个机会,在加拿大联邦框架内推动变革。
“I’ve always known this was going to be an uphill battle.”Bayford works in oil and gas, and has been heavily involved with separatism since 2020. She believes Option 2 lost because many conservatives decided to give Premier Danielle Smith a chance to make changes within Canada.
但贝福德也认为,尽管失利,过去18个月的努力对独立运动而言是一大裨益。
But Bayford also believes the last 18 months of work have been a boon to the independence movement, despite the loss.

“这不再像2020年我刚参与时那样是一个隐秘的谈话了,”她说,“现在至少它进入了公众视野。”在签署请愿书和参加市政厅会议的过程中,支持者们建立了友谊。她说,亲独立组织将确保这种社交层面不会消失。
“This isn’t a hidden conversation anymore like it was when I got involved in 2020,” she said. “Now at least it’s on the radar.”Friendships were formed as supporters signed petitions and attended town halls. Pro-independence organizations will make sure that social aspect doesn’t go away, she said.
但有一点她确实希望能有所改变。贝福德在竞选期间为CBC新闻撰写了一篇第一人称文章,随后与其他三位第一人称作者坐下来在CBC的节目中进行了讨论。其中一位作者马修·莫林是同性恋者。
But there is something she does hope will change. Bayford wrote a First Person piece for CBC News during the campaign, and then sat down to discuss it with three other First Person authors on CBC's . One of the authors, Matthew Morin, is gay.
“他说的一句话让我印象特别深,”她说。“他评论说,你知道,他认同阿尔伯塔人所感受到的许多情绪,但他不知道,从独立运动领袖那里看到的阿尔伯塔愿景中,是否有他的位置。”
“One thing he said really stuck out to me,” she said. “He made that comment that, you know, he agreed with a lot of the sentiments that Albertans are feeling, but he didn't know if there was a place for him in [the vision of] Alberta that he was seeing from the leaders of the independence movement.”
“这让我大开眼界,”她说。“除非我们能取得阿尔伯塔人的共识,即我们都是阿尔伯塔人,否则这场运动永远不会成功。”
“That was pretty eye-opening to me,” she said. “This movement will never be successful unless we can get the consensus from Albertans that we're all Albertans.”
“我希望人们开始彼此更温和一些……现在这件事结束了,我们能开始进行更平和的对话。”
“I hope people start being a little more gentle with each other … and now that this is over, that we can just start having more calmer conversations.”
“我认为世界可能变得更加动荡” 莫林是贝福德提到的那位作者,他曾为加拿大广播公司(CBC)新闻撰写第一人称专栏,讲述当今生活的不稳定性——以及掌权者不关心民众的感觉——是如何激发他对独立的兴趣的。
‘I think the world can become more volatile’ Morin, the author that Bayford mentioned, wrote a First Person column for CBC News about how the precarity of life today — and the feeling that those in charge don’t care — is fuelling his interest in independence.
他认为,阿尔伯塔分离主义的大部分支持应被视为一种抗议投票。公投后接受采访时,他说这就是他对结果不感到惊讶的原因。
He thought much of the support for separatism in Alberta should be seen as a protest vote. Reached after the referendum, he said that’s why he’s not surprised at the results.
“人们很愤怒,这就是为什么这九个问题获得了超过50%或接近50%的支持。但他们还不够愤怒,不足以寻求分离。”
“People are angry and that's why the nine questions got over 50 per cent or around 50 per cent. But they’re not angry enough to look to for separation.”

“所以我们拭目以待。因为我认为世界可能变得更加动荡,”他说。“如果政府不真正实施任何惠及民众日常生活的切实变革,人们只会继续变得更加沮丧和愤怒。” 公投后,政治分析人士一直在猜测公投结果将如何影响丹尼尔·史密斯省长的领导地位,以及她党内的坚定分离主义者是否会煽动将她推翻。
“So we'll see where it goes. 'Cause I think the world can become more volatile,” he said. “If the government doesn't actually enact any tangible change [to benefit people’s everyday lives], then people will just continue to get more frustrated and angry.”Post-referendum, political analysts have been wondering how the referendum results will affect Premier Danielle Smith’s leadership, and if the committed separatists within her party will agitate to push her out.
莫林不是坚定的分离主义者,但一直是史密斯的支持者。他在上届大选中为她敲门拉票,并加入统一保守党(UCP),以便能在党魁选举中为她投票。
Morin is not a committed separatist, but has been a Smith supporter. He door-knocked for her in the last election and joined the UCP so that he could vote for her leadership.
“当时我觉得她是草根出身,会有所作为,”他说。“她确实做出了一些改变。我是说,有些改变是好的,有些是坏的。任何政客都是这样。”但就目前而言,他不再像以前那样支持她了。
“I thought she was grassroots and would make a difference,” he said. “And she's made some differences. I mean, some differences were good and some were bad. That's with any politician.”But at the moment, he doesn’t stand behind her the same way.
“在我理想的世界里,政府会利用这一授权来制定政策,以实现降低移民、加强犯罪管控、增加可负担住房和建设更多住房、增加社会项目和资源的资金投入。
“In my ideal world, the government will use [this mandate] as a way to build policy that informs lower immigration, more control over crime, increasing affordable housing and building more housing, increasing funding for social programs and resources.
“并且他们会理解民众只是感到沮丧,与其说一切都好,不如站在讲台上说‘我们听到了你们的声音’,而这并不是我从许多政客那里感受到的。”“我们仍是反抗军联盟”亚历克斯·克鲁尔在油砂矿工作了12小时后回到家,守候公投结果。赞成举行具有约束力的分离公投的票数未达到33%,这让他感到失望,但他仍为运动所取得的一切成就感到自豪。
“And that they’d understand that people are just frustrated and instead of saying that everything's fine, maybe standing up on a podium and saying 'we hear you,' which is not really what I felt like I got from a lot of the politicians.”‘We continue to be the rebel alliance’Alex Krull came home after a 12-hour shift at an oilsands mine to catch the referendum results. He was disappointed votes in favour of having a binding referendum on separation didn’t hit 33 per cent, but still proud of everything the movement accomplished.

今年秋天早些时候,总理马克·卡尼来到他的工作场所,宣布太平洋连接管道项目被认定为符合国家利益——他认为这是分离主义者抗争的结果。
Earlier this fall, Prime Minister Mark Carney came to his workplace to announce the Pacific Link pipeline has been deemed to be in the national interest — and that’s due to the separatists’ agitation, he argues.
“这很有趣,因为我们几乎是分离主义的大本营。我们当中许多人是高收入、高纳税的蓝领工人。所以我们绝对不是典型的自由党支持者。但他确实来了。
“It was very amusing as we're almost ground zero for separatism. A lot of us are high income, high tax paying, blue collar individuals. So we're definitely not your typical liberal supporters. But yeah, there he was.
“公投以来我一直在关注主流媒体,他们完全无视我们的运动对联邦-省政治产生的影响。他们说联邦自由党原本就朝这个方向发展,”他说。
“I've been following the mainstream media quite a bit since the referendum and they're completely dismissing the impact that our movement had on federal-provincial politics. They're saying things like the federal Liberals were already moving in this direction,” he said.
“我强烈反对这种说法。我认为我们的运动让阿尔伯塔省受到了广泛关注,我们看到渥太华在一些议题上做出了大量让步,如果没有这种形式的反抗,我认为我们不会看到这些让步。”克鲁尔曾在麦克默里堡为独立运动做志愿者,收集签名以便将该问题列入选票。这段经历让他感到普通阿尔伯塔人可以有所作为,他计划继续参与,从旁观察以寻找能提供帮助的地方。他表示,未来这可能意味着加入一个分离主义政党,具体取决于政治局势如何演变。
“I would strongly contend that. I think that our movement brought a lot of attention to the province, and we've seen a lot of capitulation from Ottawa on topics that I don't think we would have had, had we not had this form of rebellion.”Krull volunteered with the independence campaign in Fort McMurray, collecting signatures to get the question on the ballot. The experience left him feeling that ordinary Albertans can make a difference, and he plans to stay involved, watching from the sidelines to see where he can help. That might be with a separatist party in the future, depending on how the political situation evolves, he said.
“丹妮尔·史密斯陷入了两难境地,因为她很大一部分支持者是分离主义者。所以她坚决表态,统一保守党今后是一个联邦主义政党,就是这样。所以我认为在2027年,阿尔伯塔省、统一保守党将面临一个大问题,”他说。
“Danielle Smith is in a dilly of a pickle ‘cause a big chunk of her support are separatist. So she's come out staunchly stating that the UCP going forward is a federalist party and that's how it is. So I think in 2027, Alberta, UCP has a big problem,” he said.
“但就分离主义运动而言,我认为我们将继续施压;我们将继续做对抗渥太华帝国的反抗军联盟。如果没有这种抵抗,现状将淹没我们,我想这大概就是民主的样子。”
“But as far as the separatist movement, I think we continue to apply the pressure; we continue to be the rebel alliance against the Ottawa empire. Without that resistance, the status quo will overwhelm us, and I guess that's what democracy is.”
“如果我们没准备好迎接变革,我们就没准备好迎接变革” 布拉德·奥萨德丘克是一名牧场主,住在阿尔伯塔省詹纳附近,距卡尔加里以东约200公里。他当时正开着空的运牛车从育肥场返回,刚在那里卸下一车小牛,就接到了加拿大广播公司新闻的电话。
‘If we’re not ready for change, we’re not ready for change’ Brad Osadczuk is a rancher near Jenner, Alta., about 200 kilometres east of Calgary. He was driving his empty cattle liner back from a feedlot, where he left a load of calves, when he took a phone call from CBC News.

奥萨德丘克对分离主义持好奇态度。他说周一的结果并没让他感到意外,但他感到失望,因为他至少希望能推进到下一步,认真审视一个独立的阿尔伯塔可能意味着什么。
Osadczuk is separatist curious. He says Monday’s results didn’t surprise him, but he was disappointed because he wanted to at least advance to the next step and have a serious look at what an independent Alberta could mean.
“我是个商人,所以我喜欢看交易的细节,”他说。“这可能永远行不通,但我真想看看它会是什么样子。”奥萨德丘克在竞选期间接受加拿大广播公司(CBC)新闻采访时,谈到了他对渥太华的不满——权力过度集中在东部,官僚体系脱离基层现实。他说,他希望这次投票能帮助艾伯塔省继续争取更多权力。
“I’m a businessman, so I like to see the details of a deal,” he said. “It may not ever work, [but] I would have loved to see what it would look like.”Osadczuk spoke with CBC News during the campaign about his frustration with Ottawa — how much power is centralized in the east and how the bureaucracy is out of touch with the reality on the ground. He said he hopes this vote will help Alberta keep pushing for more authority.
“联邦政府也看到了这次公投的结果,”他说。“我希望也许我们能看到更多的善意,以及朝着艾伯塔省希望从这个联邦获得的方向努力。我希望已经传递出了一个信息。”至于接下来会发生什么?
“The feds see the results of this referendum, too,” he said. “I hope that maybe we can see some more goodwill and some work towards what Alberta would like out of this federation. I hope that there was a message sent.”As for what happens next?
“我们只能继续过日子。……如果我们没准备好改变,就没准备好改变。”“我真的很遗憾人们把这次公投看作是分裂的。我认为这是百分之百的民主。这是一个服务人民的政府,而不是服务某种议程,”他说,并补充道,他希望情绪现在能平息下来。“我太厌倦分裂了。”
“We just keep living our lives. … If we’re not ready for change, we’re not ready for change.”“I’m really sorry that people see this referendum as divisive. I see it as 100 per cent democracy. This was a government serving the people, not serving an agenda,” he said, adding that he hopes emotions will now settle down. “I’m so tired of divisiveness.”

“我们可以继续坚持正义” 在竞选期间,戴蒙德·汗作为焦点小组成员在卡尔加里南区胜利教堂接受加拿大广播公司新闻采访时表示,加拿大正在失去与其传统基督教价值观的联系,这种感觉促使他倾向于分离主义。
‘We can continue to stand for what's right’ During the campaign, Daymond Khan met with CBC News as part of a focus group at Southside Victory Church in Calgary, where he said the feeling that Canada was losing touch with its traditional Christian values pushed him to favour separatism.
但投票结束后,他说他对结果感到满意。他投了选项2,但从未指望它会赢,也从未希望艾伯塔省真正分离。
But after the vote, he says he’s content with the outcome. He voted for Option 2, but never expected it to win and never wanted Alberta to actually leave.
“希望看到艾伯塔省在联邦内受到更好的对待,也希望看到我们国家和联邦政府的总体方向发生改变,”他说。而且他已经看到了积极的迹象。
“I'd like to see Alberta treated better within our federation, and I'd like to see the general direction of our nation and our federal government change,” he said. And he’s already seeing positive signs.
“在经济方面,我们看到联邦政府对西海岸管道的支持,希望这能扭转局面,让加拿大看到更多大型项目和投资,”他说。“然后在道德层面,我们看到安乐死没有扩展到仅仅面临心理健康挑战的人群。
“Economically, we see the federal support for the West Coast pipeline, which will hopefully help to turn the tide on seeing more major projects and investments in Canada,” he said. “Then on the moral side of things, we saw medical assistance in dying not get expanded to people who are just struggling with mental health challenges.
“我认为这是渥太华领导层做出的一个很好的决定,没有开放这一项。”
“I think that's a great decision by our leaders in Ottawa to not open that piece up.”
他认为,这次投票让阿尔伯塔省获得了更多筹码。他说,他铭记在心的是南区胜利教会的克雷格·布罗克牧师最近在一次布道中所说的话:阿尔伯塔这个名字是阿尔伯特的变体,而阿尔伯特这个名字意味着“高贵而光明”。
He believes the vote is giving Alberta more leverage. He says he takes to heart something Southside Victory’s Pastor Craig Buroker said recently in a sermon that the name Alberta is a variant of Albert, a name that means “noble and bright.”
“这是一个很好的方式来阐释阿尔伯塔在我们国家乃至总体上的使命。所以我有信心,我们能继续坚持正确的事,不必对此保持沉默。”
“That was a good way to frame the calling of Alberta in our country and in general. So I'm confident that we can continue to stand for what's right and not necessarily be quiet about it.”