
美国吟游诗人遇见美国教皇教皇利奥身穿惯常的白色法衣。鲍勃·迪伦则穿着连帽衫、系着波点领带造访梵蒂冈。没有唱歌。人人都爱引用鲍勃·迪伦的话,连教皇也不例外。
When the American Bard Met the American Pope Pope Leo wore his usual white vestments. Bob Dylan visited the Vatican in a hooded sweatshirt and polka-dot tie. There was no singing. Everyone likes to quote Bob Dylan, even popes.
1997年这位创作歌手与教皇约翰·保罗二世会面时,这位教宗点名提到了迪伦经典歌曲《答案在风中飘》中的一句歌词。而教皇利奥十四世似乎更偏爱冷门作品。在他当选为罗马天主教会领袖前不久,他曾为一本关于裁军的书撰写序言,其中引用了迪伦1963年一首鲜为人知的抗议歌曲《走开吧,你这炸弹》。
When the singer-songwriter met with Pope John Paul II in 1997, the pontiff name-checked a lyric from the Dylan classic “Blowin’ in the Wind.”Pope Leo XIV, it seems, may be more into the deep cut. Not long before he was elected to lead the Roman Catholic Church, he wrote a preface to a book on disarmament that quoted from a little-known 1963 Dylan protest song titled “Go Away You Bomb.”
周三,85岁的迪伦在梵蒂冈拜访了71岁的利奥,并送给他一本不一样的书。熟悉这位歌手相当不俗的自尊心的人,得知那是一本他的自传《编年史:第一卷》,大概不会感到意外。梵蒂冈表示,利奥为这位歌手选择的礼物或许同样在意料之中——一串念珠。利奥和迪伦一样,都是美国人。
On Wednesday, Dylan, 85, visited Leo, 71, at the Vatican and gave him a different book. Those familiar with the singer’s not-insubstantial self-esteem will be little surprised to learn that it was a copy of his autobiography, “Chronicles Volume One.”In choosing his own gift for the singer, the Vatican said, Leo — like Dylan, an American — went for one perhaps equally unsurprising: a rosary.
利奥的着装同样不出所料:白色的教皇法衣。迪伦则穿着一件深色连帽衫,颇有修士风范。或者按网上的说法,像某个《星球大战》角色。他还系着一条松松垮垮打着结的波点领带。
Leo’s garb was also unsurprising: white papal vestments. Dylan wore a dark hooded sweatshirt, evoking a monk-like look. Or a “Star Wars” character, according to the internet. He also wore a vaguely knotted polka-dot tie.
据梵蒂冈称,利奥在宗座宫会见了迪伦。梵蒂冈表示,这次会面“很短暂,包括问候和几句轻松的交谈”。
According to the Vatican, Leo met with Dylan at the Apostolic Palace. The meeting, the Vatican said, “was brief, consisting of greetings and a few lighthearted exchanges.”
现场没有音乐,这与迪伦1997年在意大利博洛尼亚会见约翰·保罗二世时不同。当时在一场圣体大会上,他演唱了三首歌,其中恰如其分地包括了《敲响天堂之门》。之后他与教皇握了手。
There was no music, unlike the time Dylan met John Paul II in Bologna, Italy, in 1997. Then, at a Eucharistic Congress, he performed three songs, among them — suitably enough — “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door.”Then he shook the pope’s hand.
梵蒂冈周三回顾称,在致辞时,若望·保禄引用了一句迪伦的歌词:“你问我:一个人要走多少条路,才能被称为男人?只有一条。人只有一条路,那就是耶稣基督之路。”
Addressing the gathering, the Vatican recalled on Wednesday, John Paul riffed off a Dylan lyric: “You ask me: how many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a man? Only one. There is only one road for man, and that is the road of Jesus Christ.”
教皇利奥在为《解除武装与不武装》一书所作序言中引用的歌词则更为凝重:“我恨你,因为你是人造、人有、人控的。” 关于这位歌手——在他发行首张专辑时教皇还是个男孩——是如何与教皇会面的,没有给出确切解释。当时迪伦正在意大利巡演。据称,与流行文化有渊源的梵蒂冈官员安东尼奥·斯帕达罗神父在促成迪伦会面中发挥了作用。
The lyric Leo cited in his preface to the book “Disarmed and Disarming,” warning about nuclear disaster, was more somber: “I hate you cause yer man-made and man-owned, an’ man-handled.”No exact explanation was given for how the meeting with the pope — who was only a boy when Dylan’s first album was released — came about. The singer was in Italy on tour. A Vatican official with ties to popular culture, the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, was said to have played a role in the Dylan meeting.
迪伦一生经历了一段非同寻常的精神旅程。他出生于犹太家庭,后来成为虔诚的基督徒。
Dylan has had an unusual spiritual journey over the course of his life. Born Jewish, he later became deeply Christian.
“我是个有宗教信仰的人,”他在发布于个人网站的《华尔街日报》专访中说,“我大量阅读经文,冥想祈祷,在教堂点蜡烛。我相信诅咒与救赎,也相信预定论。摩西五经、保罗书信、圣徒祈祷,所有这些。” 利奥教皇也有过不少名人会面。今年早些时候,他在西班牙会见了音乐人坏兔子。据路透社报道,斯帕达罗神父还促成了教皇利奥与歌手、诗人兼作家帕蒂·史密斯的会面。
“I’m a religious person,” he said in a Wall Street Journal interview posted on his website. “I read the scriptures a lot, meditate and pray, light candles in church. I believe in damnation and salvation, as well as predestination. The Five Books of Moses, Pauline Epistles, Invocation of the Saints, all of it.”Leo has had his share of celebrity encounters. Earlier this year, he met with the musician Bad Bunny in Spain. And Father Spadaro, Reuters reported, also helped to set up a meeting between Pope Leo and the singer, poet and author Patti Smith this year.