参议员伯尼·桑德斯（Bernie Sanders，无党派-佛蒙特州）周四在接受采访时表示，他并不“完全确定”唐纳德·特朗普总统会拒绝“全民医保”立法，尽管MSNBC主持人克里斯·海耶斯（Chris Hayes）对该提案成为法律的前景表示怀疑。
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., said in an interview Thursday that he wasn't "absolutely certain" President Donald Trump would reject Medicare for All legislation, despite skepticism from MS NOW host Chris Hayes about the proposal's chances of becoming law.
“医疗保健是一项人权。我们需要‘全民医保’，目前有超过60%的美国人支持，大概80%到90%的民主党人支持，”他说。海耶斯打断了他。
"Healthcare is a human right. We need Medicare for All, which is now supported by over 60% of Americans, probably 80-90% of Democrats," he said. Hayes interrupted.
“但让我先打住，参议员，因为显然，我知道你相信这一点。我看过民调，非常清楚，‘全民医保’的支持率已经上升了，”他说。“阿卜杜勒·埃尔-赛义德（Abdul El-Sayed）在那场竞选中因一百万件事受到攻击，但唯独没有因为这个受到攻击，这非常有趣。”“但我认为你我都会同意，特朗普将其签署成法律的可能性，相当小……你还得面对参议院和众议院，对吧，”他补充道。
"But let me just stop you there, Senator, because I mean obviously, I know you believe in this. I've looked at the polling, it's very clear polling on Medicare for All has gone up," he said. "It was very interesting that Abdul El-Sayed was attacked for a million things in that race, but not for that." "But, I think you and I would agree, the odds of Donald Trumpg that into law, pretty small... You're going to have Senate and House, right," he added. Sanders disagreed, and pushed back on Hayes, "Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
桑德斯表示不同意，并反驳了海耶斯：“等一下，等一下，等一下，等一下，等一下，等一下。两点。第一点，如果特朗普想这么做，他有宪法赋予的否决权。但我们有宪法赋予的权利代表美国人民，通过这该死的法案，并向美国人民表明，我们对维持一个破败的体制已经忍无可忍。”
Two points. Point number one, Trump has the constitutional right to veto, if he wants to do it. But we have the constitutional right to represent the American people and to pass the damn thing, and to show the American people that we are sick and tired of maintaining a broken system."
“第二点。你知道吗？唐纳德·特朗普可能有点疯狂，但他不笨，”桑德斯继续说道。“而且他是个优秀的政治家。如果这家伙环顾全国，然后说：‘天哪，大家都知道体制已经破了，你知道的，我还有什么好失去的？’所以我并不完全确定特朗普不会签署它。”“但无论他签不签，我们的工作就是把它推出来。他想否决，共和党想维持那个否决，那是他们的责任。美国人民会看在眼里的，”他补充道。
"Number two. You know what? Donald Trump may be a bit crazy, but he is not stupid," Sanders continued. "And he is a good politician. And if this guy looks out all over the country, and he says, 'Oh my God, everybody knows the system is broken, you know what, what do I got to lose?' So I am not absolutely certain that Trump would not sign it." "But whether he would or not, our job is to produce it. He wants to veto it, Republicans want to sustain that veto, that is their responsibility. The American people will see it," he added.
桑德斯多年来一直推动“全民医保”，对该提案的支持在民主党内已变得更加主流。
Sanders has been pushing for Medicare for All for years, and support for it has become more mainstream in the Democratic Party.
心理治疗师兼作家乔纳森·阿尔珀特在给福克斯新闻数字版的一份声明中说，桑德斯“几十年来一直在发表同一个演讲”。
Psychotherapist and author Jonathan Alpert told Fox News Digital in a statement, that Sanders had been "giving the same speech for decades."
“他知道如何利用人们的不满情绪，但把医疗保健称为一项人权，并不意味着‘全民医保’自动就是答案，”他说。“现在伯尼却说特朗普‘可能有点疯，但他不蠢’，还称他是‘一位优秀的政治家’。从一个花了数年时间攻击特朗普的人嘴里说出这种话，算得上是相当高的赞誉。即使是伯尼似乎也认识到许多民主党人拒不承认的事实：特朗普是一位善于读懂民意的熟练政治家。”
"He knows how to tap into people's frustrations, but calling health care a human right doesn't automatically make Medicare for All the answer," he said. "Now Bernie is saying Trump 'may be a bit crazy, but he is not stupid' and calling him 'a good politician.' That's quite a compliment coming from someone who's spent years attacking Trump. Even Bernie seems to recognize what many Democrats refuse to admit: Trump is a skilled politician who knows how to read the public." "And Bernie knows exactly what he's doing," Alpert continued.
阿尔珀特接着说：“伯尼清楚自己在做什么。他在迎合特朗普的自尊心，抛出实现历史性政治胜利的可能性。这是一招巧妙的心理博弈。伯尼可能认为特朗普疯了，但显然他聪明到知道，奉承特朗普比攻击他更能让事情有进展。其他政治家或许该向伯尼学一学。” 桑德斯的这番言论是在民主党在周二的中期选举中取得一波巨大胜利、重夺众议院和参议院控制权之后发表的。福克斯新闻数字版已联系白宫置评。
"He's appealing to Trump's ego, dangling the possibility of a historic political victory. It's a clever bit of psychological maneuvering. Bernie may think Trump is crazy, but apparently he's smart enough to know that flattering him might get him further than attacking him. Other politicians may want to take a cue from Bernie." Sanders comments came following Democrats' wave of huge victories in Tuesday's midterms, winning back control of the House and the Senate. Fox News Digital reached out to the White House for comment.