华盛顿——拜访威瑞森公司，并未让美国两位最有权势的人开始交谈。
WASHINGTON—A visit to Verizon hasn’t gotten two of the most powerful men in America talking.
在蓝色浪潮席卷全国近一周后，众议院少数党领袖哈基姆·杰弗里斯（民主党，纽约州）——即将担任众议院议长——表示，他仍未与特朗普总统取得联系。
Nearly a week after a blue wave swept through the country, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D., N.Y.)—set to be the next speaker of the House—said he still hasn’t connected with President Trump.
“他没有打电话来，”杰弗里斯在走出市中心一家手机店后，接受《华尔街日报》即兴采访时表示。“我也没有给他打电话。”
“He has not called,” Jeffries told The Wall Street Journal in an impromptu interview after he exited a cellphone shop downtown. “I have not called him.”
杰弗里斯还说，他不知晓总统近日与民主党人之间有任何对话。特朗普在CBS《60分钟》节目采访中表示，民主党人已经给他打过电话。“不清楚他指的是谁，”杰弗里斯说，并补充说，特朗普“应该点名道姓。我不知道过去几天里有哪个民主党人与特朗普通过话。”总统还在《60分钟》采访中表示，他愿意与民主党就移民问题达成协议，称其政府的驱逐政策可能“过于严厉”。
Jeffries also said that he was unaware of any conversations between the president and Democrats in recent days. Trump said during a CBS “60 Minutes” interview that Democrats had already called him. “It’s just unclear who he is talking about,” Jeffries said, adding that Trump “should name the names. I don’t know of a single Democrat who has had a conversation with Trump in the last couple of days.”The president also suggested in the “60 Minutes” interview that he was open to a deal with Democrats on immigration, saying his administration’s deportation policies might have been “too tough.”
当被问及这一想法时，杰弗里斯表示，众议院民主党党团本周将就移民问题进行讨论，同时他将特朗普的新任白宫幕僚长斯蒂芬·米勒称为“耻辱”。杰弗里斯此前曾表示，他不会与米勒合作，米勒被广泛视为特朗普强硬移民政策的设计师。
When asked about that idea, Jeffries said the House Democratic caucus will have a conversation about immigration this week, even as he described Trump’s new White House chief of staff Stephen Miller as a “disgrace.”Jeffries has previously said he won’t work with Miller, who is widely seen as the architect of Trump’s hard-line immigration policies.
“我们显然需要剧烈的变革，”杰弗里斯说。“移民改革是必要的。我们的系统已经崩溃。我们希望以全面的方式推进。”在特朗普第一个任期内，特朗普与参议院曾接近达成移民协议，但谈判最终因米勒的反对而破裂。特朗普还在拜登政府期间帮助搁置了一项两党边境协议。
“We clearly need a dramatic change,” Jeffries said. “Immigration reform is necessary. Our system is broken. We want to pursue it in a comprehensive way.”During his first term, Trump and the Senate came close to reaching an immigration deal, but the talks ultimately fell apart amid opposition from Miller. Trump also helped sink a bipartisan border deal during the Biden administration.
尽管特朗普已承诺将积极行使否决权，但明年民主党在众议院和参议院均取得多数席位后，将拥有巨大的议价筹码。部分民主党人认为这是妥协的机会。
While Trump has already promised to wield his veto power aggressively, Democrats will enjoy tremendous leverage next year when they assume majorities in both the House and the Senate. Some Democrats see an opportunity for compromise.
“特朗普终其一生似乎都是个交易者，”民主党全国委员会主席肯·马丁在选举之夜的一次采访中表示。
“Donald Trump has seemed to be a dealmaker over his lifetime,” Ken Martin, chairman of the Democratic National Committee said in an interview on election night.
但民主党在掌权后已承诺推行积极的监督议程，杰弗里斯也支持对这些努力的早期预览。“我对海格塞斯弹劾决议投赞成票，”他对《华尔街日报》表示，就弹劾国防部长皮特·海格塞斯的努力重申了他周末的言论。
But Democrats have already promised an aggressive oversight agenda when they take power, and Jeffries endorsed an early preview of those efforts. “I am a hard yes on the Hegseth impeachment resolution,” he told the Journal of the effort to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, reiterating comments he made over the weekend.
预计肯塔基州共和党众议员托马斯·马西将于本周迫使进行一次投票。马西在选举中输给了一名特朗普支持的挑战者。杰弗里斯表示，众议院民主党将支持这一努力，但“有待观察”会有多少共和党人与白宫决裂并支持弹劾。
Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican who lost his seat to a Trump-backed challenger, is expected to force a vote this week. Jeffries said House Democrats would support the effort but that “it remains to be seen” how many Republicans might split with the White House and back impeachment.
许多共和党人将该党在中期选举中的重大失利至少部分归咎于伊朗战争。一些白宫助手指责海格塞斯，他主张发动这场战争，并向特朗普保证战争可以迅速结束。然而，特朗普公开为海格塞斯辩护，他告诉记者：“他犯了两件事：基本上赢得了两场战争，”指的是美国在委内瑞拉的行动以及伊朗战争。
Many Republicans have attributed the party’s deep midterm losses at least in part to the Iran war. Some White House aides have blamed Hegseth, who advocated for the war and assured Trump that it could be wrapped up quickly. Trump, however, has publicly defended Hegseth, telling reporters “he’s guilty of two things: basically winning two wars,” referring to the U.S. operation in Venezuela and the war in Iran.