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威尔士工党领袖:党过于关注为威尔士议会争取权力Welsh Labour leader says party focused too much on powers for Senedd

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肯·斯凯茨于7月成为威尔士工党领袖Ken Skates became Welsh Labour leader in July

威尔士工党领袖肯·斯凯茨批评了该党过去关于权力下放的立场,告诉党员,该党过去把捍卫威尔士等同于为威尔士议会争取更多权力。

Welsh Labour leader Ken Skates has criticised his party's past stance on devolution, telling members the party had treated standing up for Wales as wanting more powers for the Senedd.

在成为领袖后首次在党的大会上发表讲话时,斯凯茨向那些“需要威尔士工党政府”的选民道歉。

In his first speech at his party's conference since becoming leader Skates apologised to voters that "needed a Welsh Labour government".

他说,过去该党优先考虑的事情导致了选区党员会议上的“热烈辩论”。

He said in the past the party had prioritised things that had led to a "lively debate in constituency party meetings".

斯凯茨在安迪·伯纳姆暗示该党在执掌卡迪夫政府时可能没有向社区下放足够权力之后发表了讲话。

Skates spoke after Andy Burnham suggested the party may not have devolved enough powers to communities when it ran the Cardiff administration.

这是工党失去威尔士政府控制权以来的第一次党代会。一份审查也批评了前第一大臣埃卢内德·摩根的政治策略,该策略被称为“红色威尔士方式”,称要求更多权力的诉求在选民中反响平平。

It is the first conference since Labour lost control of the Welsh government A review also criticised the former First Minister Eluned Morgan's political strategy dubbed the Red Welsh Way saying that demands for more powers had fallen flat with voters.

该党在5月的威尔士议会选举中败给了支持独立的党“普莱德·赛姆鲁”。他在兰德德诺的威尼斯舞台会议中心告诉与会者:“有时,我们把捍卫威尔士当作仅仅意味着为政客争取更多权力。

The party lost to the pro-independence party Plaid Cymru in May's Senedd election He told the Venue Cymru conference in Llandudno: "Sometimes we've treated standing up for Wales as though it simply means seeking more powers for politicians.

“我拒绝这一标准。捍卫威尔士意味着捍卫威尔士人民,捍卫人们的工作和工资,捍卫国民保健服务。”他对威尔士人民说:“我代表我的党,向你们道歉。对不起,我们在你们最关心的事情上做得不够好。

"I reject that test. Standing up for Wales means standing up for the people of Wales, people's jobs and wages, the NHS." He said "to the people of Wales, on behalf of my party, I am sorry. I'm sorry we fell short on what matters to you most.

斯凯茨说:“坦率地说,我们有时没有优先考虑人们真正关心的事情。

Skates said: "Speaking frankly, we sometimes didn't prioritise the things the people truly cared about.

“我们没有对那些需要我们的人产生足够的影响。”他说,工党“有时会激怒选民,让人们更容易寻求不同的东西”。

"We didn't make enough impact for those who needed us." He said Labour "sometimes angered the electorate, making it easier for people to look for something different".

他补充说,工党有时优先考虑“听起来不错的事情,或者显然会导致选区党员会议热烈辩论的事情”,但不一定回答这个根本问题:这将如何改善人们的生活。

Labour sometimes prioritised "things that sounded good on paper or things that would lead, obviously, to a lively debate and constituency party meetings", but didn't necessarily answer the fundamental question of how is this going to improve people's lives, he added.

“工党存在的意义是什么?如果不是为了减轻贫困、提高民众生活水平、创造就业、改善社区、为民众兑现承诺。”斯凯茨在支持伯纳姆推动向社区下放更多权力时表示:“这对某些人来说可能难以接受,但过多的权力被保留在了中央,而没有下放到能够给民众生活带来最大改变的地方。

"What is the Labour Party for, if not to alleviate poverty and lift people's living standards, to create jobs, to improve our communities and deliver for people." Endorsing Burnham's push for more devolution to communities, Skates said: "This won't be easy for some to hear, but too much power has been retained in the centre and not devolved onward, where it can make the greatest difference to people's lives.

“下放权力的第一个伟大篇章是将权力从威斯敏斯特转移到威尔士。下一章必须是将权力转移得更贴近民众。”他补充说,威尔士工党“必须对其身份充满信心,但要以这种身份对就业、工资和公共服务意味着什么来衡量”。

"The first great chapter of devolution was about moving power from Westminster to Wales. The next chapter must be about moving power closer to people." He added that Welsh Labour "must be confidence in its identity, but judged by what that identity means for jobs, wages and public services".

斯凯茨表示,他将根据“延迟就医名单、学校水平、家庭账单和就业发生了什么”来要求威尔士党政府负责,“而不是根据他们发起的宪法辩论”。

Skates said he would hold the Plaid Cymru government to account "not by the constitutional arguments they start" but "by what happens to waiting lists, school standards, household bills and jobs".

他表示,威尔士党在政府中的作为并不像其在竞选中自我描绘的那样进步,批评该党在国家医疗服务体系(NHS)延迟就医名单、向困难家庭发放补助以及决定不对市政税进行重估等问题上的表现。

He said Plaid's actions in government were not as progressive as it had portrayed itself at the election, criticising the party on NHS waiting lists, payments to struggling households and the decision not to revalue council tax.

肯·斯凯茨和斯蒂芬·金诺克周六均在威尔士工党会议上发言Both Ken Skates and Stephen Kinnock spoke at Welsh Labour conference on Saturday

在一次会议边会活动中,前威尔士首席大臣马克·德雷克福德重申了他在任期间提出的将司法权下放的呼吁。

At a conferene fringe event, former First Minister Mark Drakeford reiterated the calls he made in government for the devolution of justice.

伯纳姆表示,他对英国政府下放警务权持开放态度,但英国政府尚未认可具体提案。

Burnham has indicated he is open to the devolution of policing the UK government is yet to endorse concrete proposals.

德雷克福德与其前任法律顾问米克·安东尼乌并肩而坐,表示现状“不可辩护”。

Sat alongside his former counsel general Mick Antoniw, Drakeford said the status quo is "indefensible".

“我们监禁人口的比例高于英格兰,”他说。德雷克福德表示,监狱“已人满为患”。

"We lock up more people as a percentage of our population than are locked up in England," he said. Drakeford said prisons were "bulging at the seams".

“证据绝对充分,表明现状行不通,正在造成巨大伤害,而目前提出的解决方案没有一个能让人有信心事情会变得更好、有所不同。”英国广播公司(BBC)威尔士频道询问安东尼乌和德雷克福德如何看待斯凯茨的言论,安东尼乌抱怨该话题存在“混乱”。

"The case is absolutely evident that the status quo is not working, is doing immense harm and where there are no solutions on offer that give you any confidence that things could be done better and differently." Asked by BBC Wales what Antoniw and Drakeford made of Skates' comments, Antoniw complained of "confusion" on the topic.

“安迪·伯纳姆谈论的一切都是改革,关乎下放权力,这正是宪法的核心所在。“当然,你不会挨家挨户敲门问:‘你们今天怎么看待宪法?’

"Everything Andy Burnham is talking about is reform and its about devolution, which is what the constitution is. "Of course you don't go knocking on doors and saying, you know, what do you think about the constitution today.

“当民众希望事情得到办成时,你必须考虑赋予你办事权力的那些权限。” 斯凯茨在演讲中未提及司法权下放,但威尔士事务大臣斯蒂芬·金诺克提到了。

"When people want things done you have to look about what the powers to enable you to do that." Skates made no mention of justice devolution in his speech, but Welsh Secretary Stephen Kinnock did.

他承诺将兑现此前的承诺,“加强威尔士政府在青年司法和缓刑服务方面的作用,通过将青年司法和缓刑与已下放的全方位支持服务更好地整合,改善其运作方式”。

He promised to deliver on previous promises to "enhance the Welsh government's role on youth justice and probation services, to improve the way in which youth justice and probation work by better integrating them with the wrap-around services that are already devolved".

斯凯茨表示:“下放权力从来不是目的本身。它始终是手段、是改变生活的载体。“威尔士有沦为英国最中央集权国家的危险。

Skates said: "Devolution was never meant to be an end of itself. It was always the means, the vehicle for changing lives. "Wales is in danger of becoming the most centralised nation in the UK.

“目的地不应是卡迪夫湾,而应是民众。” 他指责威尔士党政府未能为一所国防技术学院提供配套资金。

"The destination should not be Cardiff Bay, it should be the people." He accused the Plaid Welsh government of failing to match-fund a defence technical college.

“时间浪费意味着投资停滞、职业生涯延宕。我们已履行我方承诺;现在该轮到威尔士党挺身而出,履行他们的承诺了。”

"Time wasted means investment stalled and careers delayed. We're honouring our side of the bargain; it's time for Plaid to step up and honour theirs."

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