纽约——爱沙尼亚外长并未因俄罗斯正准备与北约爆发更大规模战争的担忧而动摇，他对福克斯新闻数字频道表示，本国情报机构未发现莫斯科正准备对北约发动全面入侵的迹象。"欧洲越来越出现这种恐慌，认为俄罗斯将入侵，将对北约、欧洲、波罗的海国家和波兰发动全面侵略，"外长马尔古斯·察赫克纳在纽约联大期间的采访中表示，随后半开玩笑地说："但我们没看到这种情况。"爱沙尼亚与俄罗斯接壤约180英里（约290公里），长期以来一直是北约中最直言不讳警告普京执政下的莫斯科构成威胁的成员国之一。但察赫克纳区分了常规攻击准备与欧洲政府指责俄罗斯发动的日益增多的无人机闯入、破坏活动、网络攻击和其他挑衅行动。
NEW YORK — Fears that Russia is preparing for a broader war with NATO aren't rattling Estonia's foreign minister, who told Fox News Digital that his country’s intelligence sees no signs Moscow is preparing for a full-scale invasion of the alliance. "We have more and more this kind of panic in Europe that Russia will invade and will be full-scale aggressive against NATO and Europe and the Baltic states, Poland," Foreign Minister Margus Tsahkna said in an interview on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly in New York City before quipping, "But we don’t see it." Estonia shares a roughly 180-mile border with Russia and has long been among NATO’s most vocal members warning about the threat from Moscow under President Vladimir Putin. But Tsahkna drew a distinction between preparations for a conventional attack and the growing campaign of drone incursions, sabotage, cyberattacks and other provocations that European governments have blamed on Russia.
久经沙场的泽连斯基就普京的战争可能走向何方发出令人不寒而栗的警告 "我们的情报，我们能深入俄罗斯腹地，没有看到任何变化，"察赫克纳说。"我们没看到俄罗斯正在准备全面入侵或侵略。我们边境的另一侧相当空旷。"察赫克纳曾于2016年至2017年担任爱沙尼亚国防部长，他将当前局势与十年前所见进行对比，当时他说约有12万俄罗斯军队部署在该地区边境一线，可在48小时内做好行动准备。"现在是空的，"他说起爱沙尼亚边境的俄罗斯一侧。
BATTLE-TESTED ZELENSKYY SOUNDS CHILLING ALARM ON WHERE PUTIN’S WAR COULD HEAD NEXT "Our intelligence, we see very, very deep into Russia, we don’t see any change," Tsahkna said. "We don’t see that Russia is preparing a full-scale invasion or aggression. The other side of our borders is pretty empty." Tsahkna, who served as Estonia’s defense minister from 2016 to 2017, contrasted the current picture with what he saw a decade ago, when he said roughly 120,000 Russian troops were positioned across the region’s borders and could be ready to move within 48 hours. "It’s empty," he said of the Russian side of Estonia’s border today.
他的评估正值欧洲官员应对一系列俄罗斯侵犯领空事件和疑似混合攻击之际，包括周三一架俄罗斯军用直升机闯入波兰领空。波兰军方称，此次闯入似乎是另一次测试其防空准备状态的尝试。
His assessment comes as European officials grapple with a series of Russian airspace violations and suspected hybrid attacks, including a Russian military helicopter that crossed into Polish airspace Wednesday. Poland’s military said the incursion appeared to be another attempt to test the readiness of its air defenses.
俄罗斯的影子战争让欧洲如履薄冰，德国面临日益增长的威胁。欧洲和北约官员还警告称，俄罗斯可能在未来几年重建足够的军事能力，对联盟构成直接威胁。爱沙尼亚情报机构今年早些时候表示，短期内未见俄罗斯有攻击北约成员国的意图，但警告莫斯科的军事改革正在增强其长期能力。
RUSSIA'S SHADOW WAR IS PUTTING EUROPE ON EDGE AS GERMANY CONFRONTS A GROWING THREAT European and NATO officials have also warned that Russia could rebuild sufficient military capability to pose a direct threat to the alliance in the coming years. Estonia’s own intelligence service said earlier this year that it saw no Russian intention to attack a NATO member in the immediate term, while warning that Moscow’s military reforms are increasing its longer-term capabilities.
察赫纳认为，更紧迫的威胁是俄罗斯发动的一系列挑衅和混合攻击，旨在保持在北约第五条款的门槛之下。
Tsahkna argued that the more immediate threat is a Russian campaign of provocations and hybrid attacks designed to remain below NATO’s Article 5 threshold.
“俄罗斯现在正在发动这些攻击，但并未触及第五条款，”他说。“这是破坏袭击，是恐怖袭击。”
"What Russia is doing now is waging these attacks, which are not crossing Article 5," he said. "It’s sabotage attacks, terror attacks."
“普京的主要目的是利用西方对升级的恐惧，”察赫纳继续说道。“他试图分裂西方世界。分裂团结，分裂这种共识。”爱沙尼亚遭遇了GPS干扰、网络攻击和虚假信息，并将其归咎于俄罗斯，随着邻国乌克兰战争持续，无人机也曾侵入其领空。
"The main purpose for Putin is to play with the Western part of the fear of escalation," Tsahikna went on. "He’s trying to divide the Western parts of the world. Divide the unity, divide this kind of consensus." Estonia has dealt with GPS interference, cyberattacks and disinformation it has attributed to Russia, while drones have also crossed into its airspace as the war in neighboring Ukraine continues.
察赫纳表示，爱沙尼亚去年记录了约4万次网络攻击，对于一个几乎所有公共服务都在线提供的国家来说，这是一个特殊的挑战。
Tsahkna said Estonia recorded roughly 40,000 cyberattacks last year, a particular challenge for a country where virtually all public services are available online.
“我们已经在见证各种层面的攻击，”他说。“不幸的是，这已经成了常态。”察赫纳表示，北约需要在应对低于集体防御门槛的攻击时变得更加灵活。
"We are witnessing already, yes, any kind of different level attacks," he said. "Unfortunately, it’s already like normality." Tsahkna said NATO needs to become more flexible in responding to attacks that fall below the alliance’s collective-defense threshold.
“北约必须更加灵活和动态，因为这些攻击并未触及第五条款，”他指出制裁、公开归责和政治回应是联盟可用的工具。"普京想像煮青蛙一样慢慢煮熟欧洲和西方世界，"察赫克纳说。"逐步升温是在考验我们。"察赫克纳还提到了去年的一起事件，当时三架俄罗斯战斗机侵犯爱沙尼亚领空约12分钟，促使塔林根据北约第4条请求磋商，并在联合国安理会提出该事件。
"NATO must be more flex and more dynamic, because these are the attacks which are not crossing Article 5," he said, pointing to sanctions, public attribution and political responses as tools available to the alliance. "Putin wants to boil Europe and western part of the world as a frog," Tsahkna said. "Turning on the heat piece by piece is a test of us." Tsahkna also pointed to an incident last year in which three Russian fighter jets violated Estonian airspace for roughly 12 minutes, prompting Tallinn to request consultations under NATO’s Article 4 and raise the incident at the U.N. Security Council.
他回忆说，特朗普总统后来表示，侵犯北约领空的俄罗斯飞机应被击落，并称爱沙尼亚自那以后未再经历过类似的战斗机入侵事件。"现在我们面临无人机来袭，"察赫克纳说。"北约运转得像瑞士钟表一样精准。"察赫克纳表示，北约可能需要更廉价、更高效的手段击落无人机，而非依赖昂贵的战斗机。
He recalled President Donald Trump later saying Russian aircraft that violate NATO airspace should be shot down, and said Estonia has not experienced another comparable fighter-jet incursion since. "We have now drones coming in," Tsahkna said. "NATO is working as a Swiss clock." Tsahkna said NATO may need cheaper and more efficient ways to bring down drones rather than relying on expensive fighter aircraft.
在乌克兰问题上，察赫克纳呼吁加大对莫斯科的施压，认为俄罗斯的经济和战场损失最终可能迫使普京进行认真谈判。"我们看到的情况是，而且我上周刚访问过乌克兰，我们需要对俄罗斯施加更大压力，因为普京只听得懂通过实力展示的非常清晰的语言，"他说。
On Ukraine, Tsahkna called for increasing pressure on Moscow, arguing that Russia’s economic and battlefield losses could eventually push Putin toward serious negotiations. "What we see, and I also visited Ukraine last week, is that we need to put more pressure on Russia, because Putin understands only very clear language through strength," he said.
察赫克纳还指出，乌克兰日益增强的打击俄罗斯纵深目标的能力，正给克里姆林宫施加压力。"如果普京面临更大压力，同时乌克兰实施更多纵深打击能力和攻击，将会出现一个势头，届时普京可能真正开始某种停火、能源停火或实质性谈判，"他说。
Tsahkna also pointed to Ukraine’s growing ability to strike targets deep inside Russia as a source of pressure on the Kremlin. "If Putin is under heavier pressure, and also Ukraine is delivering more deep-strike capabilities and attacks, there will be a momentum when Putin may really start some kind of ceasefire or energy ceasefire, or real talks," he said.
察赫克纳表示，特朗普为寻求结束战争投入了大量精力，但认为普京利用外交进程拖延时间。"特朗普总统在过去一年里投入了大量精力寻找出路，但普京只是在耍弄他，同时也在赢取时间，"察赫克纳说。
Tsahkna said Trump had devoted significant effort to seeking an end to the war, but argued that Putin has used the diplomatic process to buy time. "President Trump has put lots of energy during the last year to find a way, but Putin has just played with him and also winning the time," Tsahkna said.
他说，乌克兰的深度打击已在经济上削弱俄罗斯，而乌克兰总统泽连斯基已多次表示愿意同意停火。"普京可以像今天或明天一样直接决定停火,"察赫纳说。"不幸的是，我们目前没有看到任何变化。"察赫纳还表示，爱沙尼亚已获保证，美军将在下一轮轮换中继续驻扎在该地区，这正值特朗普政府对美军在欧洲的军事部署进行更广泛的审查之际。"我们得到消息，这将很快发生,"他谈到下一轮轮换时说。
He said Ukraine’s deep strikes are already weakening Russia economically, while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has repeatedly signaled his willingness to agree to a ceasefire. "Putin can just decide like today or tomorrow to have a ceasefire," Tsahkna said. "Unfortunately, we don’t see any change for now." Tsahkna also said Estonia has been assured that U.S. forces will remain in the region for the next rotation, amid the Trump administration’s broader review of the American military footprint in Europe. "We got the information that it will happen soon," he said of the next rotation.
察赫纳表示，美军的存在仍然是北约东翼威慑的重要组成部分。"美军正在维护我们地区的和平,"察赫纳说。"部队的旗帜对于向普京总统传达关于俄罗斯与北约之间红线的信息至关重要。"
Tsahkna said the presence of American forces remains an important part of deterrence on NATO’s eastern flank. "U.S. troops are keeping the peace in our region," Tsahkna said. "The flag of the troops is so important to give the message to President Putin" about the red lines between Russia and NATO.