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阿利托谈特朗普对他的赞扬及对同僚大法官的批评:“我把所有这些都抛在脑后”Alito on Trump’s praise of him, criticism of fellow justices: ‘I put all of that out of my mind’

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美国最高法院大法官塞缪尔·阿利托周日在福克斯新闻的一次罕见电视采访中表示,他尽量避免过多关注特朗普总统对他的频繁赞扬——以及近期对法院内其他一些大法官的批评。

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito said in a rare televised interview Sunday on Fox News that he tries not to pay too much attention to President Trump’s frequent praise of him — and recent criticism of some of his fellow justices on the bench.

当被问及总统最近的言论时,阿利托告诉《福克斯新闻周日》主持人香农·布里姆:“我把所有这些抛诸脑后。我相信我的同事们也把这一切置之脑后。”

“I put all of that out of my mind. I trust that my colleagues put all of that out of their minds,” Alito told “Fox News Sunday” host Shannon Bream when asked about the president’s recent comments.

“但我对公共言论中普遍出现的激烈言辞升级感到担忧,也对身居要职的人就最高法院整体以及个别大法官发表的言论感到担忧。我担心这会对法院的长期地位产生负面影响,”他补充道。“当然,如果法院最终无法在美国民众中保持一定程度的信任,那将是非常有害的。”这位副首席大法官的这番言论,是在特朗普于《时代》杂志的采访中表示,他后悔提名保守派大法官艾米·科尼·巴雷特、尼尔·戈萨奇和布雷特·卡瓦诺进入最高法院之后发表的。

“But I am concerned about the escalation in public rhetoric in general and about the things that people in important positions say about the Supreme Court as a whole and about individual justices. I’m concerned about the long-term effect of that on the standing of the court,” he added. “And, of course, if the court does not ultimately retain a degree of trust among the American people, that will be very deleterious.”The associate justice’s remarks come after Trump said in a Time magazine interview that he regrets nominating conservative Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

“我能怎么办?是我把他们提名的,”特朗普说。“他们投票反对我的次数太多了。”在最高法院阻止了他的邮寄投票计划后,总统还猛烈抨击了这些大法官——虽然没有点名。

“What can I do? I put them in,” Trump said. “They voted against me too often.”The president also railed against those justices — but not by name — after the high court blocked his mail voting plan.

“这些不是我为美国最高法院面试过的人,他们只是原本自己的空壳,一个以令人震惊的糟糕裁决让美国损失数万亿美元的法院,这些裁决的影响如此巨大,以至于我们的国家将难以轻易恢复或愈合,”总统上个月在Truth Social上写道。

“These are not the people I interviewed to serve on the United States Supreme Court, they are merely a shell of their original selves, a Court that is costing the United States Trillions of Dollars with shockingly bad rulings that are of such magnitude that it won’t be easily possible for our Country to recover or heal,” the president wrote on Truth Social last month.

但在同一篇社交媒体帖子中,特朗普赞扬阿利托和大法官克拉伦斯·托马斯是“传奇人物”,并指出他们对该裁决提出了异议。今年早些时候,总统还曾称赞阿利托撰写了最高法院的一项里程碑式裁决,该裁决限制了《投票权法》的一项核心条款。

But in that same social media post, Trump praised Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas as “legends,” noting their dissent against the ruling. The president earlier this year also commended Alito for writing the court’s landmark decision to limit a central provision of the Voting Rights Act.

阿利托针对大法官整体发表的这些公开言论,与另外两位大法官的做法如出一辙:巴雷特和埃莱娜·卡根大法官曾在7月向国会议员作证时表示,最高法院需要更多资金,以应对针对他们及其家人的威胁持续攀升。

Alito’s comments about public rhetoric aimed at justices more broadly follow two of his fellow jurists, Barrett and Justice Elena Kagan, telling lawmakers in a July testimony that the court needs more money to defend against the persistent rise in threats targeting them and their families.

本周在另一次采访中,阿利托告诉CBS新闻,他曾考虑在最高法院最近一个任期结束时退休。他还说,2022年,他与最高法院其他保守派大法官一道投票推翻“罗诉韦德案”判决,那需要“勇气”。周日在接受福克斯新闻采访时,阿利托表示,他对该判决引发的反弹“并不意外”。

Alito told CBS News in another interview this week that he considered retiring from the Supreme Court at the end of its most recent term. He also said his vote to overturn Roe v. Wade in 2022 alongside the court’s other conservative justices took “courage.”On Sunday, Alito told Fox News that he “wasn’t surprised” at the backlash to the ruling.

“我预料到,这会激怒许多过去相信、且至今仍坚定认为宪法应当保障堕胎权的人。所以对此我是有心理准备的。”他说,“但我没有预料到那些具体情况——这种反应会采取何种形式,尤其是最极端的形式。”

“I anticipated that it would anger a great many people who believed and continue to believe strongly that there should be a constitutional right to abortion. So I understood that,” he said. “I didn’t anticipate the particulars, what that would — the forms that that reaction would take, the most extreme forms.”